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I don't have a 4K TV. Plus, aren't they pretty expensive and large? Even if I got one, I probably wouldn't have anywhere to put it. For the time being, I think my 26" will be sufficient for gaming, and I don't really watch TV in general anymore.
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I bought a 65" 4K TV about two to three years ago. I just got a warranty replacement of it earlier this year, but to a current model. I use my TV as my monitor and use my computer in my living room on a recliner. I haven't had a chance to use it as 4K, because my computer was using 6 year (and mi-range at the time) old parts and my receiver didn't support 4K. I just upgraded the PC, so it supports 4K, and the receiver, which now also supports 4K, but haven't hooked the new receiver yet to see the difference. The 4K TVs have come way down in price. When I bought one it was around $5K, but now the same TV but recent model (which is much better) is around $1K.
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Humms wrote:

If I'm getting a 4k TV it's going to be Samsung.

$1400 is the maximum I'm willing to spend. Even the 40" 4k was just over 700, but the picture quality is absolutely fantastic. Not curved, but the flat 4k looks just the same, maybe not as immersive, but it's the same dam thing.

Boxing day...... hopefully boxing day something good will catch my eye.


40" 4K tv for over $700? is it OLED ??

40" LCD- LED 4K tvs are around $300-$400.. some were on sale for $200 on black friday

http://www.costco.com/all-tvs.html?refine=30212+766504+764508

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?cp=1&searchType=search&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=categoryid%24abcat0101001&sc=Global&sp=%2Bcurrentprice%20skuidsaas&qp=verticalresolution_facet%3DResolution~2160p%20(4K)%5Ebrand_facet%3DBrand~VIZIO&list=y&usc=All%20Categories&nrp=15&iht=n&seeAll=&browsedCategory=pcmcat333800050003




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I thought I didn't understand the graph you posted at the start of this thread, and now you're saying that you have to sit closer to the 4K tv to enjoy its qualities?

What's the point of getting a huge TV if you still have to sit close to it to enjoy it?

Or I could still be not understanding it.


the graph is a general guide (it's not set in stone type of thing)

but there's a reason why PC gamers will vow for 4K while we console gamers (me included) can't really tell the difference

most PC gamers are siting around 2-3ft from their gaming 20-30" monitor so the video quality is clear

as for the graph... you know what visual acuity right?

so for my case ..let say i'm sitting 12 ft away from a 65in tv

then the ideal tv to get is 1080p

if it's 8ft then 4k is ideal

due to visual acuity -- at 12ft away 4K looks just like a 1080p tv to me




honestly.. all this talk about 4K will be meaningless in 2017 because all the models they release next year will be 4K so when you are picking up a new tv next year most likely it will be 4K even if you want it or not

but this is how it is with technology.. you get more for less over the years..

the first HDTV released in 2004 was $25,000 !! and it was 720p !





BlakJakXXI wrote:

I don't have a 4K TV. Plus, aren't they pretty expensive and large? Even if I got one, I probably wouldn't have anywhere to put it. For the time being, I think my 26" will be sufficient for gaming, and I don't really watch TV in general anymore.


4K is becoming the new standard for tvs.. i'm sure for 2017 models all of them will be 4K

you can find 40 in 4K tv for $300.. they had some 50in LG 4K tv on sale for $250 on black friday.

the price is cheaper that is for sure

but they are the early models of 4K tvs..

the new models of 4K tvs are the ones with Quantum Dots and HDR--

4K is still pretty much LCD panel with LEd backlighting so they can't compete with OLED tvs when it comes to picture quality.. this is where Quantum Dots will come in.. it's not quite OLED but close

high end samsung quantom dot tvs with hdr will cost you more than the OLED tvs.
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A 4k TV, no, but I do have a 4k PC screen.
Is it worth it? It depends what you're using it for.

If you want to watch movies, it's probably not worth it quite yet, because of lack of 4k content.
If you're watching content that's less than 4k, the screen will upscale the video, which doesn't look very nice. It might sound counterintuitive, but I found it's better to watch low-res sources using a low-res screen.

If you want to play games, however it's totally worth it.
You'll need a PS4 Pro, Xbox One Scorpio, or a fairly powerful PC if you want to enjoy 4k, though. I'm definitely looking forward to 8k.

If you just want to browse the internet or use it for work, it's not worth it at all. Maybe if you use a 40 inch screen or bigger.
Anything smaller will either have a tiny interface, or scale up. Many apps support DPI scaling, so they won't look bad even if scaled, but they won't look much better either.


So basically, 4k is only worth it as long as you're doing (relatively) graphically intensive tasks with it, such as watching movies or pictures, gaming, video/photo editing, CAD, or similar.
Browsing the internet could be considered graphically intensive, but the problem here is that all sites are designed with a single DPI in mind, so the browser has to upscale all sites anyway. Even if you try to view a 4k photo online, chances are the picture will be scaled down to fit the virtual viewport, then scaled up to fill the screen. The result is similar to watching low-res content on a high-res screen.
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No but currently saving up for one though
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JanusCascade wrote:

My uncle was telling me that there hardly any difference between blu-ray and DVD movies.

Is 4k TV show huge difference? is it worth it?



your uncle?

i have to ask

1- how old is he?
2- what tv he is using? not CRT right?
3- what cable he is using ? not Composite cable right?

remember when the PS3 first came out ? it came with a composite cable!! so you got two groups of people who were complaining about seeing no improvement in video quality

1- the ones still using CRTs
2- the ones using the included composite cable while hooking the system up to the hdtv

blu-ray and 1080p tvs are cheap now a day.. there's no reason to stick to DVDs anymore

as for 4K.. the difference will depend on the size of the tv and distance you are viewing it at

you heard of "visual acuity" ? you can google it for more information

this is why those old 480p anime episodes look pretty bad on my laptop but look more clear on my nexus 6 phone

try playing a 480p movie on your tv.. better yet try something at lower quality 360p? 240p? see how horrible the quality is?

now.. move away from the tv and see how the quality will improve as you got farther away from the tv

with 4K you have to sit close enough or get a big enough 4k tv-- due to visual acuity

for picture quality (deeper contrast, etc.) OLEd and quantum dots tvs will offer better color/deeper contrast-- plus it's easier to watch in bright room-- but you will pay an arm and a leg for it

i think the best time to buy a 4K tv would be in the next 2-4 years-- when they have more contents available and the early adopters bringing down the price for the rest of us

4K resolution is ideal fo security cameras- since when you zoom in you will not lose video quality like with 720-1080p resolution



71 I believed, he served in Vietnam War. He got HD TV and Cox Cable and Blu-ray DVD.. Since I got him that :p. He just felt that there hardly any difference in blu-ray and DVD movie.

But for me, as a hard of hearing (deaf without hearing aids) I noticed Blu-ray is freaking LOUD! Lets say you want to skip the boring part on the movie so you FF, you can see Subtitles show on there with tree >>>, but with blue ray disc, it doesn't show...it goes FF > to show Subtitles.

But that just me.. but I got to admit other than sound... the picture is Meh.. Its isn't huge WOW!

Now the 4k I'm interested in.. but I'm going to wait on that. Of course 8k or 10k coming out later? :p (I'm just making up the 8k, 10k) but don't be surpirsed if they actually name it 8k or 10k on next generation.
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Humms wrote:

If I'm getting a 4k TV it's going to be Samsung.

$1400 is the maximum I'm willing to spend. Even the 40" 4k was just over 700, but the picture quality is absolutely fantastic. Not curved, but the flat 4k looks just the same, maybe not as immersive, but it's the same dam thing.

Boxing day...... hopefully boxing day something good will catch my eye.


40" 4K tv for over $700? is it OLED ??

40" LCD- LED 4K tvs are around $300-$400.. some were on sale for $200 on black friday

http://www.costco.com/all-tvs.html?refine=30212+766504+764508

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpage.jsp?cp=1&searchType=search&id=pcat17071&type=page&ks=960&st=categoryid%24abcat0101001&sc=Global&sp=%2Bcurrentprice%20skuidsaas&qp=verticalresolution_facet%3DResolution~2160p%20(4K)%5Ebrand_facet%3DBrand~VIZIO&list=y&usc=All%20Categories&nrp=15&iht=n&seeAll=&browsedCategory=pcmcat333800050003




DeadlyOats wrote:


I thought I didn't understand the graph you posted at the start of this thread, and now you're saying that you have to sit closer to the 4K tv to enjoy its qualities?

What's the point of getting a huge TV if you still have to sit close to it to enjoy it?

Or I could still be not understanding it.


the graph is a general guide (it's not set in stone type of thing)

but there's a reason why PC gamers will vow for 4K while we console gamers (me included) can't really tell the difference

most PC gamers are siting around 2-3ft from their gaming 20-30" monitor so the video quality is clear

as for the graph... you know what visual acuity right?

so for my case ..let say i'm sitting 12 ft away from a 65in tv

then the ideal tv to get is 1080p

if it's 8ft then 4k is ideal

due to visual acuity -- at 12ft away 4K looks just like a 1080p tv to me




honestly.. all this talk about 4K will be meaningless in 2017 because all the models they release next year will be 4K so when you are picking up a new tv next year most likely it will be 4K even if you want it or not

but this is how it is with technology.. you get more for less over the years..

the first HDTV released in 2004 was $25,000 !! and it was 720p !





BlakJakXXI wrote:

I don't have a 4K TV. Plus, aren't they pretty expensive and large? Even if I got one, I probably wouldn't have anywhere to put it. For the time being, I think my 26" will be sufficient for gaming, and I don't really watch TV in general anymore.


4K is becoming the new standard for tvs.. i'm sure for 2017 models all of them will be 4K

you can find 40 in 4K tv for $300.. they had some 50in LG 4K tv on sale for $250 on black friday.

the price is cheaper that is for sure

but they are the early models of 4K tvs..

the new models of 4K tvs are the ones with Quantum Dots and HDR--

4K is still pretty much LCD panel with LEd backlighting so they can't compete with OLED tvs when it comes to picture quality.. this is where Quantum Dots will come in.. it's not quite OLED but close

high end samsung quantom dot tvs with hdr will cost you more than the OLED tvs.



That remind me when I first got my computer from the state, it cost 2,200,00 dollars (can't remember the ten thousands, thousands and rest of the currently changes). I just remember its 2,200,00 something just for the computer I got and it was Pentium II 266 mhz, 2GB of hard drive, 32mb of ram, and 4 of video ram lol. That is 2,200.00.. can you believed that? nowdays top in line computer worth like what 500 dollar?

My gaming PC worth 2,500.00.
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I don't.

I sit 8 feet away from my Sony 60" TV, and unless that TV breaks or something I'm sure not going to just get another one.

But if you give me a 4K 60" TV FOR FREE..............
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Got one for FF15 and I'm loving it. The HDR is really the big seller of the 4k TVs though.
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i have a 3440 by 1440 ultrawide so i guess i'm slightly behind
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If I said I liked my 3DTV, you'd laugh.
If you WATCHED it, you wouldn't.

That's why everyone's excited about 4K--
They spent the last six years laughing at something they hadn't seen, and getting hyped for something else they hadn't seen yet.
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I don't have one...and I probably won't be getting one anytime soon. It's just not in my budget right now. I'd rather use my money for other things.
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I sit anywhere from 5-8 feet away, depending what I'm doing. Gaming, I sit a little closer to get more in the zone, but with movies, I tend to sit farther back. So even then, I may be sitting too far to really even notice 4K, which I'm fine with.

As for the Blu Ray Players. So far I looking at reviews of the Samsung UBD-K8500, and the Panasonic DMP-UB900, which is crazy expensive, but I'll be waiting for more competition, and a price drop. One particular player, the Sony BDPS6700, seems to just upscale to near 4K, so I'm not too interested in it, compared to the Samsung UBD-K8500, but who knows, the difference between the two, may not be noticeable. Especially at 8 feet away.

You also do bring up a good point, on the cameras they use to record in 4K. I've been checking on some of the shows I watch, like The Ranch and The Grand Tour, which from what I've been reading up on, is filmed with 4K capable cameras.

Also some Youtubers do film in 4K, but if I remember right. Youtube knocks the quality down some, because of the compression they use. I've noticed, uploading 1080p gameplay, that the quality, is a little worse, than the RAW file, that I have. I can only assume, that 4K on Youtube would work the same way.
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Nope. My good old 100 hertz , 40 inch, 1080p Samsung just keeps on keeping on. Paid $2500 for it probaby over 10 years ago lol. ^^;
Besides, my GPU is a GTX 980, not the T.I so it is not compatible with 4K.. so until i decide to upgrade my GPU once again i wont be rushing out to get a 4k tv. (i use my tv as my PC monitor)
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JanusCascade wrote:

71 I believed, he served in Vietnam War. He got HD TV and Cox Cable and Blu-ray DVD.. Since I got him that :p. He just felt that there hardly any difference in blu-ray and DVD movie.

But for me, as a hard of hearing (deaf without hearing aids) I noticed Blu-ray is freaking LOUD! Lets say you want to skip the boring part on the movie so you FF, you can see Subtitles show on there with tree >>>, but with blue ray disc, it doesn't show...it goes FF > to show Subtitles.

But that just me.. but I got to admit other than sound... the picture is Meh.. Its isn't huge WOW!

Now the 4k I'm interested in.. but I'm going to wait on that. Of course 8k or 10k coming out later? :p (I'm just making up the 8k, 10k) but don't be surpirsed if they actually name it 8k or 10k on next generation.


i got it with #1 then. .it might be his eyes.

around your uncle age.. the vision will start to become bad.. does he have cataract ? it's common in older folks.

actually blu-ray movies are not as loud as dvd though (if using tv speakers)

i'm one of those people who will be fine with the TV speakers-- and will not use any sound bar/tower/system.


4K, 5K and 8K.. those are the resolutions they introduced in the past few years.. nothing about 16K yet.. but anymore it's a waste of money (due to visual acuity)

as for 8K.. there's an 8K Glasses- FREE 3D tv it looks pretty good They introduced it during CES 2015

Samsung's 8K Glasses-Free 3D TV Blew Our Minds - CES 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STBsPHIEPA



JanusCascade wrote:


That remind me when I first got my computer from the state, it cost 2,200,00 dollars (can't remember the ten thousands, thousands and rest of the currently changes). I just remember its 2,200,00 something just for the computer I got and it was Pentium II 266 mhz, 2GB of hard drive, 32mb of ram, and 4 of video ram lol. That is 2,200.00.. can you believed that? nowdays top in line computer worth like what 500 dollar?

My gaming PC worth 2,500.00.


that's two commas right? 2 millions 2 hundreds? dollars? you joking right?

actually.. nevermind.. the first number you used 2 commas but the second number comma and period

$2,200 and $2,500..



nanikore2 wrote:

I don't.

I sit 8 feet away from my Sony 60" TV, and unless that TV breaks or something I'm sure not going to just get another one.

But if you give me a 4K 60" TV FOR FREE..............


what are you willing to do for that FREE 60" tv though ?




taichi556 wrote:

Got one for FF15 and I'm loving it. The HDR is really the big seller of the 4k TVs though.


not a lot of movies and games support HDR at the moment + there are problem with compatibility issue at the moment as well..




Em0SceneStabr wrote:

i have a 3440 by 1440 ultrawide so i guess i'm slightly behind :(


1440p? that's Quad HD.. you have a nexus 6 phone too ? or those Sharp Tvs from 2 years ago? some call it 2K tvs or something?



Ejanss wrote:

If I said I liked my 3DTV, you'd laugh.
If you WATCHED it, you wouldn't.

That's why everyone's excited about 4K--
They spent the last six years laughing at something they hadn't seen, and getting hyped for something else they hadn't seen yet.


? i also have a 3D tv.. passive 3D.. i didn't like active.. with 4K.. 3D will be even better since it will be 1080p for each eah instead of half of 1080p with 1080p tv set

i bought the 3D tv because of the 3D gaming hype which didn't last long.. i'll not get another 3D tv ever again




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I sit anywhere from 5-8 feet away, depending what I'm doing. Gaming, I sit a little closer to get more in the zone, but with movies, I tend to sit farther back. So even then, I may be sitting too far to really even notice 4K, which I'm fine with.

As for the Blu Ray Players. So far I looking at reviews of the Samsung UBD-K8500, and the Panasonic DMP-UB900, which is crazy expensive, but I'll be waiting for more competition, and a price drop. One particular player, the Sony BDPS6700, seems to just upscale to near 4K, so I'm not too interested in it, compared to the Samsung UBD-K8500, but who knows, the difference between the two, may not be noticeable. Especially at 8 feet away.

You also do bring up a good point, on the cameras they use to record in 4K. I've been checking on some of the shows I watch, like The Ranch and The Grand Tour, which from what I've been reading up on, is filmed with 4K capable cameras.

Also some Youtubers do film in 4K, but if I remember right. Youtube knocks the quality down some, because of the compression they use. I've noticed, uploading 1080p gameplay, that the quality, is a little worse, than the RAW file, that I have. I can only assume, that 4K on Youtube would work the same way.


that's usually what people will do...

when you are looking at the a screen,.. if you have to turn your head to keep track of the action you are too close

this is the reason i don't sit in the first 15 rows of seats in my local theater.. i prefer to sit way in the back

Xbox One S also has a 4K player-- you didn't get one on black friday? it's the cheapest 4K blu-ray player on the market at the moment

it was on sale for $250 .. they even had it for $212 for a few hours (Target and Amazon i think)..

some like stream but i like physical media since the superior video quality is on the disc -- given the compression the video had to go through when streaming..

there's a new video format.. (i forgot the name at the moment)

pretty much it will provide better quality with reduced file size..

from what i heard -- 1 hour of streaming 4K movie will eat up 8GB data-- if you have a data cap on your internet speed you will hit it pretty quickly if you are going 4k
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