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Posted 12/8/16 , edited 3/14/17
At first it wasn't really legal, but then...



So CR had to do some soul-searching...



After said soul-searching, CR went legit...



Now CR and and legal anime streaming get along like me and this here sammich...


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when i told a few other users to get adblock plus or ublock origin.. they deleted my post i didn't know why

now i see the option to pay to get rid of ads.. it's pretty clear


Um, I'm not sure if you're talking about Crunchyroll or Anime News Network, but I don't think AdBlock stops the ads during the videos. And I can tell you that as a paying Premium member on Crunchyroll that you don't get the ads during the videos but you still get them on the main site for banner ads and such. I got so annoyed with the ones with the videos in the top right corner where every time your mouse cursor was over the video it played the sound for it, so I started using AdBlock because of it. And I don't feel guilty about it because I pay for the site.
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Posted 12/8/16 , edited 12/8/16
It sort of started at a college as an illegal upload site for anime. There wasn't a lot of ways to get legit anime back then and the people who started it did so as a way to sort of share anime on their campus. I think I remember reading something like that once. Here's from Wiki:

Crunchyroll started in 2006 as a for-profit video upload and streaming site that specialized in hosting East Asian video content. Some of the content hosted on Crunchyroll included fansubbed versions of East Asian shows.

In 2008, Crunchyroll secured a capital investment of $4.05 million from the venture capital firm Venrock. The investment drew criticism from anime distributors and licensors Bandai Entertainment and Funimation as the site continued to allow users to upload illegal copies of licensed titles.

However, Crunchyroll eventually began securing legal distribution agreements with companies, including Gonzo, for an increasing number of titles. On January 8, 2009, after announcing a deal with TV Tokyo to host episodes of Naruto Shippuden, Crunchyroll stated that it was committed to removing all copyright-infringing material from its site and to hosting only content to which it had legitimate distribution rights.

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Posted 12/8/16 , edited 12/8/16
While CR went totally legit in early January 2009, it was around the preceding Thanksgiving or month before that they were started to remove a lot of their fansub links.
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Posted 12/8/16 , edited 12/8/16
Even business entities have the right to amend themselves.
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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:
when i told a few other users to get adblock plus or ublock origin.. they deleted my post i didn't know why

now i see the option to pay to get rid of ads.. it's pretty clear


Um, I'm not sure if you're talking about Crunchyroll or Anime News Network, but I don't think AdBlock stops the ads during the videos. And I can tell you that as a paying Premium member on Crunchyroll that you don't get the ads during the videos but you still get them on the main site for banner ads and such. I got so annoyed with the ones with the videos in the top right corner where every time your mouse cursor was over the video it played the sound for it, so I started using AdBlock because of it. And I don't feel guilty about it because I pay for the site.


i was referring to the ads on their website... not the ads in the video

back then hulu will not play their movies when you have adblock plus enabled.. but hulu is no longer free

as for dealing with ads in the videos.. i think you can look it up maybe there's an extension/add on to skip the ads within the video as well

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*shrugs* Ask shinji
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It started out as an illegal site. They had some fansubbed anime that they don't have on here any more. Which was how I found this site in the first place. Now I'm not sure, it they were facing legal action, or finally decided to become a business. But they became a legal site around 08/09.
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Posted 12/10/16 , edited 12/10/16

AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:


BlackRose0607 wrote:


AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:
when i told a few other users to get adblock plus or ublock origin.. they deleted my post i didn't know why

now i see the option to pay to get rid of ads.. it's pretty clear


Um, I'm not sure if you're talking about Crunchyroll or Anime News Network, but I don't think AdBlock stops the ads during the videos. And I can tell you that as a paying Premium member on Crunchyroll that you don't get the ads during the videos but you still get them on the main site for banner ads and such. I got so annoyed with the ones with the videos in the top right corner where every time your mouse cursor was over the video it played the sound for it, so I started using AdBlock because of it. And I don't feel guilty about it because I pay for the site.


i was referring to the ads on their website... not the ads in the video

back then hulu will not play their movies when you have adblock plus enabled.. but hulu is no longer free

as for dealing with ads in the videos.. i think you can look it up maybe there's an extension/add on to skip the ads within the video as well



On which site though, Crunchyroll or Anime News Network? I know that both sites host videos. And a lot of sites don't always play their videos when you have AdBlock on, but most of those aren't the legal sites. And I know that Hulu isn't free, but I won't pay for a membership there because even when you pay you still get ads during the videos. I have enough to watch with Crunchyroll and Netflix anyways.

And I don't have to deal with ads during the videos on here since I'm a paying member. Have been for almost five years now.
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Man, it was like the wild west way back then. It's really nice to see how far it's come.

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On which site though, Crunchyroll or Anime News Network? I know that both sites host videos. And a lot of sites don't always play their videos when you have AdBlock on, but most of those aren't the legal sites. And I know that Hulu isn't free, but I won't pay for a membership there because even when you pay you still get ads during the videos. I have enough to watch with Crunchyroll and Netflix anyways.

And I don't have to deal with ads during the videos on here since I'm a paying member. Have been for almost five years now.


i'm not a premium member on Crunchyroll so i'll get ads when watching videos.. but my extensions took care of them even within videos

ANN (anime news network) does not host their own videos.. not that i know of.. they do link in youtube videos in their articles though. They also putt ads on their website as well now.

on my laptop i don't have to deal with ads from youtube thanks to the extension but on their youtube app i have to deal with 15-30 seconds ad-- even for those 2-3 minutes videos..

hulu used to be free with ad.. now they are subscription based only.. basic level you still have to deal with ads.. if you want no ads i think you have to pay a higher price for the service

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[site that shall not be named] is / was 1 site where you had access to a lot of anime, old anime titles, titles not released in US yet at the time, and hentai. I used to go there before I knew of CR. It is a site that, to my knowledge, did not pay royalties to the anime producers or licensors. One search engine suggests [that site] was created late 2007. I see the site has updated itself and isn't as accessible to newcomers as it once was.

A few years ago some individual offered unlimited file storage for watching and keeping illegal anime on [site that shall not be named] for a nominal monthly fee. The offer was hard to ignore, even harder to unblock and avoid after it appeared. Once you accessed the site you could watch at least 2 25-minute episodes with limited ads before this giant ad would appear. If you chose not to pay to play you were forced to endure a 1-2 hour timeout before the pop up ad would disappear for a few hours. It turned into a cat and mouse game watching anime on that site.

Forbes wrote an article a few years ago about the file pirate who ran the unlimited file storage operation seemingly off of [site that shall not be named]. Young kid turned entrepreneur who understood how to hack the net as well as sidestepping copyright laws. Apparently he was good at his craft. By 27 he had nice cars, trophy women, nice vaca home, and more. He liked to display his largess to anyone of interest. Several attempts were made by certain countries to get his operation to comply to rules and most attempts failed. Then the US took an interest in his illegal escapades (in their eyes) violating copyright laws and managed to over-reach their authority, get him arrested, close down his operation.

Some law firm representing him determined the United States over-reached. Of course, by then his operation was dead but he rebuilt it (shell of its former self at the time) vowing to sue the US Government for infringement on his rights as a web entrepreneur et al.

CR was similar in start up. Uploaded stuff not paid for that was accessible. Had a chat section. Then it went legit.

Edit Add: mod deleted actual site name posted to protect the guilty..................lol




I am really curious but what site were you taking about?
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bemused_Bohemian wrote:

[site that shall not be named] is / was 1 site where you had access to a lot of anime, old anime titles, titles not released in US yet at the time, and hentai. I used to go there before I knew of CR. It is a site that, to my knowledge, did not pay royalties to the anime producers or licensors. One search engine suggests [that site] was created late 2007. I see the site has updated itself and isn't as accessible to newcomers as it once was.
Edit Add: mod deleted actual site name posted to protect the guilty..................lol


Was it by any chance a site you like (dai-suki!) for BitTorrent digisubs, nudge-nudge, wink-wink?
(The site I'm thinking of became empty by '11, and hasn't been updated since 2012.)

Because that was pretty much where the industry was in the mid-to-late 00's, right during and after the 00's Disk-Licensing Bubble, that finally crashed when Best Buy and the mainstream retailers "popped" it.
Desktop streaming, let alone set-top streaming, barely existed back then, so there was an Internet-fan "gray-market" in .MKV fan-subtitling the current hit series as soon as possible after they aired, so that fans could keep up with the new series, like xxxHolic, Macross Zero or Oh Edo Rocket. The "good" digisub sites were there to raise awareness and early screening for series, and removed their files after/if the show had been licensed for disk. (Remember when we thought "Oh, they'll never get Sgt. Frog, the license'll be impossible! "?)

Meanwhile, the big power-players in the US anime-video industry were literally bankrupting themselves trying to buy unknown/unproven new series from licensors who wanted to brag license deals for their current hit TV ratings, resulting in a lot of forgotten and short-shelf-lived shows (Nerima Daikon Bros.? Coyote Ragtime Show?) given the full treatment at ADV, Geneon and Bandai...And still released as 4-ep. singles, since that was the way studios believed they could subsidize the cost of the dubbing.
(Although most fans had caught on that ADV would almost always offer a double-dip Complete Boxset at the end of the series, and chose to wait, rather than pay $35 for 4-6 episodes. Which wasn't helping sales.)

CR was the major early homemade player to get into "gray-market" fan-digisub streaming--no more need for downloading 200MB BT files--even if the very name conjured up every "Those Nasty Pirates!" excuse the industry wanted to concoct for why all those $35 4-ep. singles weren't selling at Best Buy, who was no longer stocking them anyway.
And when CR finally gave in to industry blackening, started paying for their show licenses and went legit...well, after that, the industry couldn't go back.
After the Bubble popped, the industry had to get used to a market based on fans who already know the series and want to buy the whole thing one boxset at a time. We're not so dim anymore as to depend on sales for all our anime intake, and buy some company's license deal sight unseen just because they cut a funny ad description for it.
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Shinji made a website.
Followers came and made it awesome.
Shinji had a dream of ruling the world.
Followers agreed and aided his conquest.
The End.


I was one of the originals by the way back when the website was still lawless.

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