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Posted 12/5/16 , edited 12/5/16

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is it bad if i've never heard of bearing...?

i remember people having their videos removed even for filming snow™®© outside their home.
youtube can take down any channel for no reason at any time. kinda sucks for content creators, but.


It's not bad if you've never heard of him. The point is that it can happen to any law abiding content creator. So, if you have a favorite Youtuber that you like to watch, remember that what happened to Bearing can happen to your favorite, too.
Posted 12/5/16 , edited 12/5/16
The three strikes were called by a single person. Originally, YouTube lumped them together as one, but then changed it to three. There are extenuating circumstances, mostly involving Bearing stepping on the toes of several Youtubers, that shift the atmosphere of the banning into a coordinated attack against Bearing. Bearing has gotten into unpleasant deadlocks with quite a few Youtubers who, although they may not personally be behind this, have very vocal fans that are likely to blame.


Bearing does have two back-up channels, though, so I'm not particularly worried.
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Posted 12/5/16 , edited 12/5/16

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The three strikes were called by a single person. Originally, YouTube lumped them together as one, but then changed it to three. There are extenuating circumstances, mostly involving Bearing stepping on the toes of several Youtubers, that shift the atmosphere of the banning into a coordinated attack against Bearing. Bearing has gotten into unpleasant deadlocks with quite a few Youtubers who, although they may not personally be behind this, have very vocal fans that are likely to blame.


Bearing does have two back-up channels, though, so I'm not particularly worried.


what are his two back up channels?
Posted 12/5/16 , edited 12/5/16

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what are his two back up channels?


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRYK44h6TYZ3rxe-TMskyjA

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-EREEErQQqgYNyNB4YGQnQ
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redokami wrote:

maybe it was about him talking about that queer kids stuff show? lol I know some of his subscribers went and reported that ...girl? boy? idk


Oh, I kind of know who you're talking about now. I watched that video of his from the link in the forum thread that I think you made about it. While I agreed with some of the things he was talking about while 'reviewing' that person's video, someone else mentioned in that thread that the bear he uses actually comes from a show called Total Drama Island that was on Canadian television and then on Cartoon Network. Maybe that's why his channel was shut down, because of copyright infringement because of it. I've seen videos taken down from there for less.
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redokami wrote:
I feel this is a form of censorship tbh


I'm a little confused; a privately owned company/site suspends a user and it's a form of censorship?



Essentially, as long as you're using someone else's website - you're at the mercy of their "rule". While on the Internet, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution do not necessarily mean much at all. Someone else owns the data you're posting, the data you're uploading, and the data you're sending/receiving - you're just paying for access to these things that are hosted elsewhere. As long as the Internet is an International domain, there are several "barricades" that those who believe that there's a sense of "censorship" must overcome to reach the objective of 'free speech':

1) You must host your own server, locally, with the content you wish to be accessible.
2) You must own your own domain and have a domain registrar that is under your control as well
3) You must have the server located in a location that does not have any political oversight

Even then, when you do these things, you're going to be the person that can pull the plug on someone or something that you disagree with. So it's a circle jerk.

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Other than that, I will miss Bearing - although, I feel he'll be back on YouTube sooner than expected. YouTube sometimes gives those who have some notoriety. Change.org petitions tend to yield very little results if any. But something is better than nothing in some cases.


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Posted 12/6/16

ninjitsuko wrote:


redokami wrote:
I feel this is a form of censorship tbh


I'm a little confused; a privately owned company/site suspends a user and it's a form of censorship?



Censorship has become a code word for the repression of dissent, even if such the entity doing said repressing is within their full legal rights to do so. This is particularly prudent when companies kowtow to public pressure. In essence, usage of censorship means to deem such repression as immoral in some way, rather than something which should be illegal.

I am still pretty pissed that /r/lolicon has been taken down.

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Posted 12/6/16
Meh, I only know of him from people on here posting his videos. I thought he sucked anyway.
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Make good content. Then maybe I'd care.
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Posted 12/6/16
Guess it's pretty evident by now that bearing's channel was taken down because he was using copyrighted artwork from TDI all over his channel.

Can't say I'm surprised, I figured it would happen sooner or later, I'm wondering if it was really whoever owns TDI who filed the copyright complaint though.

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Censorship has become a code word for the repression of dissent, even if such the entity doing said repressing is within their full legal rights to do so. This is particularly prudent when companies kowtow to public pressure. In essence, usage of censorship means to deem such repression as immoral in some way, rather than something which should be illegal.

I am still pretty pissed that /r/lolicon has been taken down.



Wait, what? /r/lolicon has been taken down but /r/truecel is still up? What the fuck is wrong with people?
Posted 12/6/16

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Clearly doesn't get it.


Maybe. I don't get how people are quick to assume there's some type of "censorship" going on when Bearings has used quite a lot of copyrighted content on his channel (which, depending on how much of a douche you want to be - anyone could report him from several IP addresses to make it look "legit"). On top of the fact that YouTube is in their right to ban, terminate, or suspend anyone they choose on their platform. You're free to say whatever you want on the Internet; yet, that doesn't mean that whoever owns the site that you're on doesn't have the right to silence you if they don't like you. It's like going onto someone's personal property - you're allowed to say as you please, but they can tell you to leave their premises (and even go as far as reporting you for trespassing) if they don't like what you have to say. There aren't any "laws" or "rights" on the Internet, technically. The freedoms that you take for granted are the ones that you start to see are stifled on the Internet for numerous reasons.


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Censorship has become a code word for the repression of dissent, even if such the entity doing said repressing is within their full legal rights to do so. This is particularly prudent when companies kowtow to public pressure. In essence, usage of censorship means to deem such repression as immoral in some way, rather than something which should be illegal.



Yeah, and as long as sites have reporting functions - kowtowing is going to take priority over that of the content creator/poster (especially if, for whatever reason, any one of those reports are from a business). Until there's some type of "international internet bill of rights" where companies have to adhere to it or else be penalized - this type of "censorship" will forever happen. The problem is that people want it both ways - No to globalization, but Yes to freedom of speech on an International Network. That's not how it's going to work, ever.

The best we could hope for would be a national bill or law that holds any content within the US to the same standards as our Constitution. Even then, it may encourage some companies to move servers outside of the US. Which, of course, would make for higher latency (ping) and jitter (for VoIP)... so it would impact the user's experience.

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Posted 12/6/16
Another update, bearing's three copyright strikes came from a channel called "Fresh TV" which produced Total Drama Island, which bearing got his bear avatar from.

So it's not censorship, just a company not wanting their bear character being used for whatever purpose.
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Another update, bearing's three copyright strikes came from a channel called "Fresh TV" which produced Total Drama Island, which bearing got his bear avatar from.

So it's not censorship, just a company not wanting their bear character being used for whatever purpose.


Yeah I figured. Oh well. He has money now, he can comission his own bear art. On a side note, does anyone remember 6teen? Fresh TVs other cartoon? That was a good one.
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Eh Undoomed and Teal Deer is better no offense.
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