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Posted 12/7/16 , edited 12/7/16

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I would welcome him to Australia if it were my choice he would make a great prime minister.

He did great for America albeit a few BIG mistakes (obama care)


Please, take him.


As i said i would if it were my choice it would put Australia into a golden age.


Yes, many in America expected him to crap out rainbows and sunshine back in 2008. It never did happen though.


You. I like you. It would be a shame... if ... we made America great again.
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I showed up to this thread to complain about this thread and others like it! Thereby ensuring it will remain on the front page and get as much attention as possible! Take that!

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Posted 12/7/16

Xxanthar wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:


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I would welcome him to Australia if it were my choice he would make a great prime minister.

He did great for America albeit a few BIG mistakes (obama care)


Please, take him.


As i said i would if it were my choice it would put Australia into a golden age.


Yes, many in America expected him to crap out rainbows and sunshine back in 2008. It never did happen though.


He did a decent job better then his predecessors.
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^ If by predecessors, you mean Dubya, then yes. A trained monkey could have done better than Dubya. But Clinton? No. Despite Clinton's personal affairs, Bill did a pretty good job as president.
Posted 12/7/16 , edited 12/7/16

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He did a decent job better then his predecessors.


It may look that way from the other side of the planet, but trust me the only people who benefitted from Obama were the Banks, auto unions, government employees, people on welfare, and non-citizens. The rest of us went through 8 years of hell.
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Posted 12/7/16

Xxanthar wrote:


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He did a decent job better then his predecessors.


It may look that way from the other side of the planet, but trust me the only people who benefitted from Obama were the Banks, auto unions, government employees and people on welfare. The rest of us went through 8 years of hell.


That's how you want to see it and that is fine it's not a matter of what it looks like to the other side of the planet as we can see as much as those living their can since we have enough information and flow of talking.

I know a ton of people who loved Obama being in.
He was better then the last guy you had also obama care was a sham but atleast he tried for universal healthcare whilst America still refuses to get with the times.

His stance towards welfare is the correct stance to take sure he had his down falls but EVERY president did.

you say 8 years of hell? well if that was hell your last 5 presidents must have been worse then hell to live through.
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He's sticking around town bc one of his daughters will still be attending high school.

Look, Obama has been a mixed bag: on one hand the stock market is doing well and unemployment is down.

That being said, Debt to GDP ratio is now at an almost all time high, most new jobs don't pay squat, health insurance is becoming insanely expensive for those who don't qualify for subsidies, and we are no closer to getting out of being bogged down in the Middle East.

More or less if your upper middle class or rich you are probably better off under the Obama administration, and perhaps some members of the working poor due to healthcare expansion. If you are lower middle class or working class odds are you have been screwed over.

There has been an economic recovery, but one that has left many people behind.
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^ If by predecessors, you mean Dubya, then yes. A trained monkey could have done better than Dubya. But Clinton? No. Despite Clinton's personal affairs, Bill did a pretty good job as president.


Yes and people also say Obama did just as good of a job then you have people that say clinton did a terrible job.

Its all opinion based at the end but Obama wasn't nearly as bad as half of the people make him out to be.
Alot of people i know loved him and whilst not all of his beliefs etc were correct he did a great job and was a good president.

He made obama care a shit show that shouldn't exist yes but atleast he tried to make universal healthcare what other president do you see trying to?

Even if he failed in alot of areas he tried for things America should have always had and that is important.
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Nah, I hated Obama and didn't vote for him. I could deal with Obamacare, but DACA...NOPE. It was a blatant abuse of his power and I'll be happy to see Trump wipe that out Day 1.

I liked Clinton's EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) program. That was a very novel plan as it was geared largely to the lower and middle classes. I also thought Clinton was more of a common man, than, say, Obama. Clinton would eat regularly at McDonalds. Can't think of the last time I saw Obama's face plastered all over CNN as he scarfed down a McRib.
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I'm not sure if some of you guys have noticed, but Trump's cabinet picks aren't exactly encouraging

To you.


What I want to know is why Trump piked Scott Pruitt, a climate change denier, to lead the EPA


Because if you don't support climate change legislation your a climate change denier. Can you say thought police?

I'm interested how he is going to stop REAL pollution not that red herring climate change.


That is one area where I'm in disagreement with Trump. I think climate change is real. You can see it in the year by year, decade by decade shrinking of the polar ice caps. Polar bears are drowning. They used to be as common as regular bears all over North America, but except they lived on the ice. The ice is almost all gone, and polar bears are drowning in big numbers. Polar bears are sighted in increasing numbers looking like they got anorexia. Their population has declined so much in the last ten years, that the government is talking about putting them on the endangered species list.

The permafrost. Remember what the permafrost is? It's a layer of earth about two feet down that never ever thaws. Permafrost is found all around the Arctic region, Alaska, Canada, Greenland, Iceland, the higher latitudes of Northern Europe, Norther Russia, Siberia, Mongolia. Well, all of that permafrost is thawing, and methane gas is escaping from the ground in those areas.

Those are all symptoms of a warming planet. I'm conflicted. Because, a few weeks ago, scientists said that we have passed the CO2 tipping point of no return. So, on the one hand, nothing we do now will change that. But on the other hand, why speed it up by abandoning the push for cleaner energy sources?

On the one hand, getting Americans back to work mining coal, and tapping our oil deposits will give us a real boost in our economy, but I don't want to abandon the promise of a hydrogen economy, either. I want to abandon uranium nuclear fission reactors, dangerous, and with weaponizing potential, and turn to thorium nuclear fission reactors, much safer, and can't be weaponized (as a replacement for coal and oil fired so called clean energy power-plants).

One day, we'll have fusion power plants. When that day comes, it will be a revolutionizing factor in our economy, but it will do no good for climate change. We've passed the CO2 tipping point... *sigh*

I also don't like the threat being made to Net Neutrality.... But that's a whole 'nother post...
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He needs to get the HELL OUT OF WASHINGTON when his term ends!

The words spoken from this "rough around the edges" journalist is not any less invalid, just because he's rough around the edges. It speaks to what Americans think of the media, controlled by six owners, believe. That is that Trump will push and eliminate the corrupt forces that influence Washington DC out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6-GjIVRRd4

George Soros has had to come out of hiding and make direct moves to attempt to push his agenda down our throats, but he is failing! He doesn't control Trump! America will break the chains of globalism, and will become great again!

It's kind of like the Sith Code:



Through Trump's Victory, America is freed from Soros' clandistine control!



Yet Obama plans to be shadow president. I can't find it, but I remember watching a speech he gave to the U.N. where he stated that he would challenge a Trump presidency to prevent Trump from undoing the work of globalism, or something to that effect.

Obama needs to shut up and stay out of the way!

Obama says it's only for his daughter, that he will remain in Washington DC.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/163712-why-is-obama-is-staying-in-dc-its-for-a-pretty-touching-reason

But he better not interfere, from the back seat, in Trump's Presidency.




The rhetoric is literally insane. This is what happens when we allow medium to completely disenfranchise the political system. Not saying Washington doesn't have its issues that need to be fixed but to say that Obama is evil and insinuate that he plans to rule from the shadows really shows how ignorant you are. Nearly every president we've had has left pointers for the one that succeeds them. That doesn't mean they are governing their term. At all. It means they actually are trying to help them succeed.

This National movement trump has started is anything but Democratic. Success in democracy is measured by our ability to mediate both sides of the aisle to come together to fix issues. It's not complete villianization of anything that isn't far far right. Alex Jones and the like aren't harbingers of democracy, they are opponents of it. If you educate yourself on the beautiful duality of our political system it doesn't take a Masters thesis to realize that compromise is something he or Rush Limbaugh give the slightest damn about. They are part of an arm of the right who is so out of touch with social democracy that they don't even realize they advocate borderline fascism. You can see it in comments like these. Instead of being involved in the political process and wanting to improve it you completely denigrate anything that isn't completely 100% with your unreasonable views.

Posted 12/7/16
Obama spent 10 trillion bucks and has nothing to show for it. Unless you count ObamaCare, letting men use the wrong bathroom and selling us to the highest bidder out of google, face book, and twitter.. Worst president ever. I give him .1 star rating.
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Akage-chan wrote:

Nah, I hated Obama and didn't vote for him. I could deal with Obamacare, but DACA...NOPE. It was a blatant abuse of his power and I'll be happy to see Trump wipe that out Day 1.

I liked Clinton's EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) program. That was a very novel plan as it was geared largely to the lower and middle classes. I also thought Clinton was more of a common man, than, say, Obama. Clinton would eat regularly at McDonalds. Can't think of the last time I saw Obama's face plastered all over CNN as he scarfed down a McRib.


re: DACA, what do you think the alternative should be? i mean in the sense that, is your opposition to DACA because you feel that it's an abuse of the executive branch or because you think, as a program, that it shouldn't exist?

and for the second part, about Clinton and eating McRibs and such, there are rules about where the food Presidents eat come from now especially in light of the post-9/11 anthrax scare. Candidate Obama ate at Chipotle & McDonalds not infrequently, but stopped when he became President because of Reasons. different eras, you know?


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Obama spent 10 trillion bucks and has nothing to show for it. Unless you count ObamaCare, letting men use the wrong bathroom and selling us to the highest bidder out of google, face book, and twitter.. Worst president ever. I give him .1 star rating.


worse than Hoover? worse than Coolidge? worse than Harrison? i don't think obama was a very good president but i certainly think there have been much worse.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

I would welcome him to Australia if it were my choice he would make a great prime minister.

He did great for America albeit a few BIG mistakes (obama care)


Please, take him.


As i said i would if it were my choice it would put Australia into a golden age.


Yeah, he'd ship your jobs off-shore too. You'd lose your better paying jobs, and end up flipping burgers at half of your original yearly salary. That's what Obama beamed about proudly in that UN speech. Basically, he said (paraphrasing), "Americans were mad as hell, at me, that they lost their good paying jobs and got left with poorer paying jobs, but America's got to spread the wealth to other countries."

You can have Obama.

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Ryulightorb wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:

I would welcome him to Australia if it were my choice he would make a great prime minister.

He did great for America albeit a few BIG mistakes (obama care)


Please, take him.


As i said i would if it were my choice it would put Australia into a golden age.


Yeah, he'd ship your jobs off-shore too. You'd lose your better paying jobs, and end up flipping burgers at half of your original yearly salary. That's what Obama beamed about proudly in that UN speech. Basically, he said (paraphrasing), "Americans were mad as hell, at me, that they lost their good paying jobs and got left with poorer paying jobs, but America's got to spread the wealth to other countries."

You can have Obama.



Presidents who presided over jobs being sent off-shore: Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama
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