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same sex parents cant be listed on childs birth certificate
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Posted 12/9/16 , edited 12/10/16
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/same-sex-parents-cant-be-listed-on-childs-birth-certificate-rules-arkansas-supreme-court/ar-AAlmf9c?OCID=ansmsnnews11
I mean it makes sense, it still takes a male and female to make the baby
so if of one them got sperm donation, the donor would be the father/parent, not the other spouse so really the other ISNT the biological parent,

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everyone get ur popcorn ready for this battle that's about to come
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I don't see how anyone can disagree on this issue to be honest. Though some moron will inevitably show off their bigoted opinion, and then gasp when we actually call him or her a bigot, as if that is greater crime altogether.
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The real question is, are there any negative effects of not being listed on their birth certificate?

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Dogempire wrote:

The real question is, are there any negative effects of not being listed on their birth certificate?



not that I know of no, besides family tree in the future

not having a birth certificate on the other hand...
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Birth certificates are easily amendable in the first place, I've never heard of a medical situation where having one is actually necessary or useful so I don't see why it should bar parents of the same sex. When a child is adopted, usually their birth certificate is amended to replace the birth parents with the new, adopted ones. So actually this is pretty discriminatory, under the guise of attempting to be medically consistent.

Edit: Having a history on your medical records for familial genetics has nothing to do with your birth certificate, and it's never consulted, so it's a very weak argument. Medical records themselves are only kept by individual health care providers in the first place, relying on the patient to inform them of any genetic history with certain diseases, so that excuse also gives our healthcare system way too much credit.

Edit Edit: If they truly cared about being biologically consistent and did not wish to be discriminatory I'm sure it would not be too difficult to simply have two sections or even certificates to separate biological from adoptive if this was the case.
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I dunno... If I were to do sperm donation I would definitely not want it to be easy for the child I would hypothetically be producing to find me. I ain't raising it, give the good folks who are the credit.
Posted 12/9/16 , edited 12/10/16

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Birth certificates are easily amendable in the first place, I've never heard of a medical situation where having one is actually necessary or useful so I don't see why it should bar parents of the same sex. When a child is adopted, usually their birth certificate is amended to replace the birth parents with the new, adopted ones. So actually this is pretty discriminatory, under the guise of attempting to be medically consistent.

Edit: Having a history on your medical records for familial genetics has nothing to do with your birth certificate, and it's never consulted, so it's a very weak argument. Medical records themselves are only kept by individual health care providers in the first place, relying on the patient to inform them of any genetic history with certain diseases, so that excuse also gives our healthcare system way too much credit.

Edit Edit: If they truly cared about being biologically consistent and did not wish to be discriminatory I'm sure it would not be too difficult to simply have two sections or even certificates to separate biological from adoptive if this was the case.


Fully agree with this

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redokami wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/same-sex-parents-cant-be-listed-on-childs-birth-certificate-rules-arkansas-supreme-court/ar-AAlmf9c?OCID=ansmsnnews11
I mean it makes sense, it still takes a male and female to make the baby
so if of one them got sperm donation, the donor would be the father/parent, not the other spouse so really the other ISNT the biological parent,


It does not make sense. As there are a variety of ways a male/female couple can end up on the birth certificate together even if one is not a biological parent. And thats before you even get into stuff like surrogate births or ovum sharing. The laws also vary widely from state to state. Lot of places for example you are the legal father on the birth certificate simply by virtue of being married to the mother. Whether its actually your child or not.

A birth certificate is a legal document not an affirmation of whatever you think the True Nature Of Humanity(tm) is.

Posted 12/9/16 , edited 12/10/16
Just put the biological parent's names on it. Some users have pointed out that amending a birth certificate happens frequently in cases of adoption and various other happenings. Adopted parents should NOT be on your birth certificate, why call it a birth certificate? Legal guardians have other means of proving they are what they claim.
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Same sex parents are horrible for the child anyway. They'll be taken the piss out of wherever they go.
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So long as the known biological parents are officially listed somewhere, for medical and other reasons (i.e.; cross-checking for inherited diseases), I have no particular reason to oppose.
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Am I the only one who thinks it's ok to use a sharpie to edit your own birth certificate however you want? Granted, I got a spare copy at all times, so I may have used a copy machine on more then an occasion to make a copy. All to just to make a paper airplane.

I'll be frank, I don't see why people are so obsessed with a mere piece of paper. If you aren't happy with who is on your birth certificate, just scan it, make some edits, make a new one, and have that hang on the wall. Just be sure to organize the original for legal purposes.

(if you think i'm crazy, you got to remember I have a copy of all legal documents, including my SSN and Birth Certificate. I'll be dammed if i bring the original to a meeting and lose it somewhere, knowing my klutzy, erratic behavior. All my legal documents are in a special safe that is impossible to lose, on the grounds that it is bright blue, weighs a ton, and takes up an entire corner.)
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well my birthfather on mine isnt my birthfather....... so i sont ee why not.
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everyone get ur popcorn ready for this battle that's about to come


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