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no idea what you're talking about so
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MysteryMiss wrote:

I happen to live in a very liberal area truth is i can't put a Trump sticker on my car or even have the christian fish- logo
right due you know why? cause here in my neighborhood they would scratch my car or maybe worse!
I have to take caution when i go downtown thats right cause i'm sure there will be protests down there! my fav chinese restaurant is downtown and i have to avoid it.. till things cool down this is what America has become a place where you are chastised for having a different
belief that does not follow the trendy norm? sad times ahead.


Lmfao no that's wrong. Nobody cares about your belief. It just so happens that your belief and many religious believers may be against a plethora of liberal standards such as the fact you argue that being gay is a sin and something you simply are accustomed to; Has nothing to do with genetics. Dismiss scientific evidence in the name of your beliefs. That is a problem. Everybody is fine with your beliefs just don't impose them onto others, else wise you'll get this kind of reaction. You may of done nothing wrong, but the religion you may represent with has. That's what happens when you decide to take extra time out of your day to label yourself and confide to a belief system. Which once again we're all entitled to, until it directly affects others ability to live equal lives. So don't give us this bullshit like you're being taken advantage of. The church has manipulated every state it could whenever it can. OF course there are people mad at it.

Then to have the audacity to claim victim. You demonize the entirety of humanity believing in some religions, of which curse the non-believers as they sinful.

Now you wanna talk about equality? This was coming for religion. Maybe find yourself a religion that doesn't practice misinformation like taoism or buddhism that focuses on yourself and not what's wrong with the world around you.

Sheesh the nerve.
Posted 12/10/16

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Lmfao no that's wrong. Nobody cares about your belief. It just so happens that your belief and many religious believers may be against a plethora of liberal standards such as the fact you argue that being gay is a sin and something you simply are accustomed to; Has nothing to do with genetics. Dismiss scientific evidence in the name of your beliefs. That is a problem. Everybody is fine with your beliefs just don't impose them onto others, else wise you'll get this kind of reaction. You may of done nothing wrong, but the religion you may represent with has. That's what happens when you decide to take extra time out of your day to label yourself and confide to a belief system. Which once again we're all entitled to, until it directly affects others ability to live equal lives. So don't give us this bullshit like you're being taken advantage of. The church has manipulated every state it could whenever it can. OF course there are people mad at it.

Then to have the audacity to claim victim. You demonize the entirety of humanity believing in some religions, of which curse the non-believers as they sinful.

Now you wanna talk about equality? This was coming for religion. Maybe find yourself a religion that doesn't practice misinformation like taoism or buddhism that focuses on yourself and not what's wrong with the world around you.

Sheesh the nerve.


Like it or not, vandalizing cars is harassment and punishable by court, offhandedly persecuting people for their religious and political beliefs is wrong and punishable by court, and you're scape-goating. For almost the entirety of your post, all you've done is expose the Texas-sized chips on you're shoulders.
Posted 12/10/16 , edited 12/10/16

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Like it or not, vandalizing cars is harassment and punishable by court, offhandedly persecuting people for their religious and political beliefs is wrong and punishable by court, and you're scape-goating. For almost the entirety of your post, all you've done is expose the Texas-sized chips on you're shoulders.


It's also considered a hate crime in many places. Hopefully he'll end up in prison one day.
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American schools distance themselves from religion as much as they can. Only time that it's brought up it is to demean it. Despite that... Well you know...
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so i heard the other day American schools have nothing religious in them (public schools) and that surprised me alot.

Here in Australia we had and optional religious class in public primary school (no reason for it not to be there it wasn't forced or shoved down throats i enjoyed it as it allowed me to experience a belief system other then my own)

But i understand why people wouldn't want religious classes in schools but i also heard you guys don't have Chaplains.


In America, it's considered to be nobody else's danged business.
Which is why we have separation of church and state, to avoid playing favorites.

(Although Catholic churches can run their own schools, where they can enforce the idea of not paying attention to any of the others.)
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i am in complete agreement with keeping religions out of school now if someone by themselves wants to quickly pray or something as long as its not disruptive before a test or food then sure let them but they shouldn't expect the other kids from doing the same for example. i also hold that opinion when it comes to politcal beliefs don't try and use the school system to get kids for example follow a specific political party or group. in ether cases its turning a place where your supposed to learn useful skills and such not be indoctrinated to follow a certain set of beliefs that's not what schools are for.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

so i heard the other day American schools have nothing religious in them (public schools) and that surprised me alot.

Here in Australia we had and optional religious class in public primary school (no reason for it not to be there it wasn't forced or shoved down throats i enjoyed it as it allowed me to experience a belief system other then my own)

But i understand why people wouldn't want religious classes in schools but i also heard you guys don't have Chaplains.

Is that true? i mean at my highschool we had a Chaplain who ran a religious club / safe area (nothing to do with sjw it was to escape bullying heck i used it a few times we played board games etc was fun) and a breckfast club (basically fed people who didn't eat breakfast or couldn't afford to i know i used to go there for noodle soup :).

Do Americans really have none of that..... i couldn't imagine not having someone like that in my school it was one of the positives.

I talked to the Chaplain about science etc and she was accepting that i didn't share the same beliefs or others didn't and never shoved her beliefs down peoples throats she was just there to help people and listen to them and give a place for those who are bullied or want to go somewhere to pray.






Probably because we have never had an official state religion like England did, we were in the hotspot of the great enlightenment period, had many deists, secularists, and a lot of other changes in that period. Not that certain groups want to believe it, but our country does strive for the separation of church and state so as not to show favoritism, which said secularism has rubbed certain "Christian country for Christians" groups the wrong way. We literally have it written, like, government officers/employees have to dictate or deny rights due to religious beliefs or something like that.
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No religious classes in public schools although students are free to start religious before/after school clubs and in many cases do so.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

so i heard the other day American schools have nothing religious in them (public schools) and that surprised me alot.

Here in Australia we had and optional religious class in public primary school (no reason for it not to be there it wasn't forced or shoved down throats i enjoyed it as it allowed me to experience a belief system other then my own)

But i understand why people wouldn't want religious classes in schools but i also heard you guys don't have Chaplains.

Is that true? i mean at my highschool we had a Chaplain who ran a religious club / safe area (nothing to do with sjw it was to escape bullying heck i used it a few times we played board games etc was fun) and a breckfast club (basically fed people who didn't eat breakfast or couldn't afford to i know i used to go there for noodle soup :).

Do Americans really have none of that..... i couldn't imagine not having someone like that in my school it was one of the positives.

I talked to the Chaplain about science etc and she was accepting that i didn't share the same beliefs or others didn't and never shoved her beliefs down peoples throats she was just there to help people and listen to them and give a place for those who are bullied or want to go somewhere to pray.






It's called "separation of church and state" Thomas Jefferson put it in the constitution as another way to try and limit the governments power.

It's not that Americans can't worship in schools it's that they are not required to like you are.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

so i heard the other day American schools have nothing religious in them (public schools) and that surprised me alot.

Here in Australia we had and optional religious class in public primary school (no reason for it not to be there it wasn't forced or shoved down throats i enjoyed it as it allowed me to experience a belief system other then my own)

But i understand why people wouldn't want religious classes in schools but i also heard you guys don't have Chaplains.

Is that true? i mean at my highschool we had a Chaplain who ran a religious club / safe area (nothing to do with sjw it was to escape bullying heck i used it a few times we played board games etc was fun) and a breckfast club (basically fed people who didn't eat breakfast or couldn't afford to i know i used to go there for noodle soup :).

Do Americans really have none of that..... i couldn't imagine not having someone like that in my school it was one of the positives.

I talked to the Chaplain about science etc and she was accepting that i didn't share the same beliefs or others didn't and never shoved her beliefs down peoples throats she was just there to help people and listen to them and give a place for those who are bullied or want to go somewhere to pray.






It's called "separation of church and state" Thomas Jefferson put it in the constitution as another way to try and limit the governments power.

It's not that Americans can't worship in schools it's that they are not required to like you are.


we aren;t required it;s a choice XD
Posted 12/10/16

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MysteryMiss wrote:

On another note a bit of topic
does this offend you?

the atheist in our city fought to have the nativity scene taken down keep in mind christmas is a Christian holiday.
what i find hypocritical is that in N.Hollywood they can fly their rainbow flags all over or the Jews have there star? Like i said America
is going down a very bad path.

Where is it located? In a public school? Then yes, it should be taken down. That's promotion of a specific religion and it's a display not something a specific individual is wearing. Same if it's at any governmental building. It's not about offending, it's about a religiously-neutral place promoting a specific religion.

If it's not at a school or governmental building, then I don't know why they would be fighting to take it down. There's no reason.

And for the record, my answer would be the same if it was a Pride display or something displaying Jewish religion.


>> it was once a display in the city not on school grounds it was something my friends and family would drive down to look at.
but as it goes someone made a big stink and got it removed.. The Jews got their star the LGBTQ got their flags
but see the Christians had to remove our nativity.
Posted 12/10/16 , edited 12/11/16

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MysteryMiss wrote:

I happen to live in a very liberal area truth is i can't put a Trump sticker on my car or even have the christian fish- logo
right due you know why? cause here in my neighborhood they would scratch my car or maybe worse!
I have to take caution when i go downtown thats right cause i'm sure there will be protests down there! my fav chinese restaurant is downtown and i have to avoid it.. till things cool down this is what America has become a place where you are chastised for having a different
belief that does not follow the trendy norm? sad times ahead.


Lmfao no that's wrong. Nobody cares about your belief. It just so happens that your belief and many religious believers may be against a plethora of liberal standards such as the fact you argue that being gay is a sin and something you simply are accustomed to; Has nothing to do with genetics. Dismiss scientific evidence in the name of your beliefs. That is a problem. Everybody is fine with your beliefs just don't impose them onto others, else wise you'll get this kind of reaction. You may of done nothing wrong, but the religion you may represent with has. That's what happens when you decide to take extra time out of your day to label yourself and confide to a belief system. Which once again we're all entitled to, until it directly affects others ability to live equal lives. So don't give us this bullshit like you're being taken advantage of. The church has manipulated every state it could whenever it can. OF course there are people mad at it.

Then to have the audacity to claim victim. You demonize the entirety of humanity believing in some religions, of which curse the non-believers as they sinful.

Now you wanna talk about equality? This was coming for religion. Maybe find yourself a religion that doesn't practice misinformation like taoism or buddhism that focuses on yourself and not what's wrong with the world around you.

Sheesh the nerve.


> I guess you did not read my post correctly but on my property yes my car i have that right to add a sticker or cross to my car.
and you are incorrect on passing judgement on me. Some but not all Christians notice i said some! might say things you disagree with.
And on a final not it is my freedom to practice what ever religion I want.
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I went to a NY public highschool. American public schools are largely secular although forming religious clubs/student groups are allowed. Unless you visit certain public schools in places like Georgia, South Carolina, or Alabama, you probably won't see religion being thrown in with the school activities and lessons since doing so is not educating, it's proselytizing (using tax money from the State).
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yup we had nothing in our school that had anything to do with religion
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