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CIA concludes russia helped get trump to win
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The Alt right when it comes to Russia and Putin
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All the Presidents from Truman to Reagan are spinning in their graves.


O rly

You have zero idea how Reagan "ran" things.

http://www.vqronline.org/essay/reagan-retrospect
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Ooooooooooo let's scare people with the alt right boogey man! I preferred the 'vast rightwing conspiracy' more... made it sound like an underground army or an evil empire.

No no it's much better to bury your head in the sand and ignore the threat


That wont help much when the threat is only in your mind.


I guess peace, for 4 years at least, with Russia is a threat

don't you mean appeasement for 4 years?



Do you seriously want us to start WW3 because we didn't want Russia to bomb our enemies in Syria? Hillary wanted us to shoot down Russian planes because they were violating our no fly zone and bombing our mutual enemy. Do you really want to go die in Russia because we didn't want them bombing ISIS?
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Posted 12/11/16

redokami wrote:


uncletim wrote:


redokami wrote:


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uncletim wrote:


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Ooooooooooo let's scare people with the alt right boogey man! I preferred the 'vast rightwing conspiracy' more... made it sound like an underground army or an evil empire.

No no it's much better to bury your head in the sand and ignore the threat


That wont help much when the threat is only in your mind.


I guess peace, for 4 years at least, with Russia is a threat

don't you mean appeasement for 4 years?



better than war , lol

Neville Chamberlain thought that too, How did that turn out?

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Do you seriously want us to start WW3 because we didn't want Russia to bomb our enemies in Syria? Hillary wanted us to shoot down Russian planes because they were violating our no fly zone and bombing our mutual enemy. Do you really want to go die in Russia because we didn't want them bombing ISIS?



Right, it's totally Isis and not kurdish fighters, syrian rebels, or syrian civilians the no fly zones were set up to protect, and enforcing those no fly zones would totally start WWIII.
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The CIA isn't some eternal organization with some infinite valid pass. The members change depending on the political party. Gloria Steinem had CIA help in getting her cancerous brand of Feminism out and about. They work for the Clintons, and would do anything to keep her chances alive, even saying Russia colluded.

Truth is, if Trump gets in for 8 years, you might see a different breed of CIA than now. Different targets, different policies. The works.
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qwueri wrote:


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Do you seriously want us to start WW3 because we didn't want Russia to bomb our enemies in Syria? Hillary wanted us to shoot down Russian planes because they were violating our no fly zone and bombing our mutual enemy. Do you really want to go die in Russia because we didn't want them bombing ISIS?



Right, it's totally Isis and not kurdish fighters, syrian rebels, or syrian civilians the no fly zones were set up to protect, and enforcing those no fly zones would totally start WWIII.


You realize that ISIS has no planes right? Btw Turkey is bombing the Kurds and they are on our side... The rebels are just anti-assad they still hate us. The Syrian civilians are only being bombed from the air by our coalition and Russia, everyone else uses ground forces or missiles. We are not even willing to declare war on Assad despite trying to remove him.

That no-fly zone would do nothing but start a war because of Obama not committing to anything and he cannot negotiate ANY deals. If we setup a no-fly zone we have to shoot down Russian planes headed to bomb ISIS, which IS AN ACT OF WAR. We also have to give Turkey express permission to bomb the Kurds. If we support the Kurds then we have to move our air bases out of Turkey. If we support Turkey then we will have fucked over the Kurds yet again and northern Iraq will split off.
Posted 12/11/16

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The CIA isn't some eternal organization with some infinite valid pass. The members change depending on the political party. Gloria Steinem had CIA help in getting her cancerous brand of Feminism out and about. They work for the Clintons, and would do anything to keep her chances alive, even saying Russia colluded.

Truth is, if Trump gets in for 8 years, you might see a different breed of CIA than now. Different targets, different policies. The works.


There is a conspiracy theory out there that the NSA and CIA are having a war with each other.
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TheKaiserKnight wrote:

The CIA isn't some eternal organization with some infinite valid pass. The members change depending on the political party. Gloria Steinem had CIA help in getting her cancerous brand of Feminism out and about. They work for the Clintons, and would do anything to keep her chances alive, even saying Russia colluded.

Truth is, if Trump gets in for 8 years, you might see a different breed of CIA than now. Different targets, different policies. The works.


There is a conspiracy theory out there that the NSA and CIA are having a war with each other.


Well that's hard to verify unless a whistle blower comes out and says it with some VERY convincing evidence. But I wouldn't doubt it. Differences in political ideas can lead to that shit.
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it shouldn't be that difficult to setup a secure intranet for usa only to vote online using a 2048 bit encryption where once you prove you are a citizen you get a certificate from a certificate authority and can either vote via a state app or online. This is America it shouldn't be that difficult to deploy. There are other countries that can vote online and they don't have the voting problems we have
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Xxanthar wrote:


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Are you people concerned in the least about the Illegal activity, corruption, and fraud being committed by the democrats?


Tsk, you are reading fake news again. The democrats are as pure as the driven snow. I hear that the fake Marxist pope is waiting for Hillary to die so he can make her a saint.




I want 10 million dollars, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get it. I think Fatboy Kim in North Korea has said many times that he is going to turn America into a nuclear wasteland, and South Korea into a lake of fire. Saddam Hussain used to say he was going to destroy the USA many times as well. Putin can barely hang on to the part of the Ukraine he took while Obama was off playing golf.



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> Trump
> Puppet

Controlling Trump is like trying to control a Lion using nothing but your bare hands. Even if you think your strong enough to control him its not going to work and you are going to get maimed.



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it shouldn't be that difficult to setup a secure intranet for usa only to vote online using a 2048 bit encryption where once you prove you are a citizen you get a certificate from a certificate authority and can either vote via a state app or online. This is America it shouldn't be that difficult to deploy. There are other countries that can vote online and they don't have the voting problems we have


Pfft. You, my dear, have clearly never dealt with anyone from the federal government. Some of the laziest, most incompetent people work for the federal government.

Paper is far more reliable. Really.

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Someone doesn't remember the broken ObamaCare website that cost us over $600 million bucks, took like a year to fix, and then got hacked.
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Hoho.
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