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does hate speech exist?
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Posted 12/12/16
Still does, and will still happen till the end of time. Hate speech is also surprisingly racially diverse. Any and everyone can be affected by it. But should you care? Only about as much as any other insult. Insults have existed since animals could develop language. Many great apes, like chimpanzees and gorillas, have used sign language in unique ways... just to insult another ape. (with such things like poopoo head).

Insults will also remain to the end of time, as long as language exists, thus hate speech too. No matter how much it is suppressed. Should we go out and censor all hate speech. No, we shouldn't. Should we tolerate it? Also no. How do we fight it? By doing what everyone else does when an insult is uncalled for. Tell them that ain't cool mate. Unless your the one being insulted without reason, then you have my blessing for 1 good punch straight to the lips.
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octorockandroll wrote:

Of course hate speech exists. It's kind of easy to find :/

That being said I think it should only be outlawed when it is in violation of other laws, like if the people doing the hate speech are harassing or inciting violence.


That's how it already is, at least within the US. You can say almost anything you want as long as it doesn't cause harm to another person. Saying "That person is an asshole because he's black/white/asian/etc." isn't illegal. Shitty yes, but perfectly legal. Saying "That person is an asshole because he's black/white/asian/etc. and you should burn down his house" not so much.
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I hate everyone
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Posted 12/12/16

Xxanthar wrote:

If you hate people who use hate speech, and then voice your opinion about hating those that use hate speech, wouldn't that be considered a form of hate speech?

Wouldn't it depend on how you go about it?
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There is only intolerable speech. You can shout what ever you want as loud as you want when alone in the forest. Anyone who takes offense at what you are saying is the real problem. If you are communicating in a direct mater of fact fashion and someone gets offended then that is their problem.

On the other hand if you are just saying inflammatory crap to provoke a reaction then don't complain when you get a provoked reaction.
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Posted 12/12/16
Hate speech which would have enforcement against it would be akin to a troupe of KKK members publicly pressuring people to actively lynch black people around. It follows that the police can't arrest you on the basis of what you say short of you inciting immediate, physical violence, that's the first amendment, however hate speech in most countries is outlawed in terms of certain groups, but even then it's pretty specific. Hate speech is often argued as a form of violence and abuse, meant solely for maliciously harming people of a certain denomination. Most people who say they are against hate speech and censorship are generally taking these laws to an extreme abstract and theoretical scenario rather than the actual implementation of the laws and what happens. So yes it exists. Yes it is terrible, and yes we as a society should not tolerate it, and should use our responsibility to one another as fellow decent human beings to confront displays of it with our own voices and take a stand for others; but even if there were laws against hate speech, you can't legislate hate away, you can only suppress it that way. The average citizen, such as you and I, need to think communally and empathetically to really combat hate speech, and not tolerate it when we hear it. If someone is heckling someone else with racist slurs, confront that garbage can of a person, and try to help the victim. Simple as that. I've never seen a logical nor humane reason to divulge into something like hate speech, it's wrong in every sense.
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Posted 12/13/16
Even if they somehow outlawed it. It would still exist behind closed doors.
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Posted 12/13/16
Hate speech exists, but it shouldn't be legislated away because that's overextending the role of government in society.

Government doesn't protect people from what they "don't want to hear". Government protects people from physical harm.

There are all kinds of other ways to counter stuff "people don't want to hear". Social pressure, peer pressure... Not everything is up to the government.
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Posted 12/15/16 , edited 12/15/16
Does it exist, of course. Could something someone says be interpreted as hate speech by one group and not as another of course.

Needless to say, I believe in the 1st amendment in its entirety and part of the price we must pay for our continued protection of it is defending all speech (other than promoting violent acts) even when we find it abhorrent or distasteful. Once we start censoring speech it is only an amount of time until the government and those with influence start silencing all opposition.
Posted 12/16/16
terms, laws like hate speech are in fact government directed hate speech at its populace
Posted 12/16/16

octorockandroll wrote:

Of course hate speech exists. It's kind of easy to find :/

That being said I think it should only be outlawed when it is in violation of other laws, like if the people doing the hate speech are harassing or inciting violence.


Agreed.
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Posted 12/16/16
now a day .. hate speech is pretty much what you don't want to hear

there was a game company that sued the gamers for bashing their games on youtube..even though their games are pretty bad to be honest..

well.. long story short.. that game company is now bankrupted.


so before you taking things that belong to me or started to get physical with.. be sure you know the clear meaning of "hate speech".. since it will be sad to get killed when someone decided to defend his/herself when being attacked by you simply because "you don't like their opinion" on something..



but yes.. there is hate speech out there.. like from ISIS for example..
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Posted 12/16/16 , edited 12/16/16
Some people think islam is hate speech......

It's pretty clear hate speech and hate crimes are targeted toward a group people for no good reason, other than simply existing
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Posted 12/22/16
I suppose that from a non-legal standpoint, many of the things liberals and conservatives say against each other is hate speech. However, free speech is so revered here that the legal definition of hate speech is case dependent.
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