Post Reply twitter says no to policing tool
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Posted 12/12/16
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/twitter-says-no-to-law-enforcement-protest-policing-tool/ar-AAlpV5d?OCID=ansmsnnews11
the actual fuck?
so now twitter wont allow cops to try and find baddies? -lack of a better word lol-
I mean..what even

sure...sure just let your users spew anti cop rhetoric ,like after the dallas shootings that's ok, ...I mean as long as they don't do anything right? but what if they DO do something, the cops wont be able to monitor them
Posted 12/12/16

redokami wrote:
the actual fuck?
so now twitter wont allow cops to try and find baddies? -lack of a better word lol-
I mean..what even

sure...sure just let your users spew anti cop rhetoric ,like after the dallas shootings that's ok, ...I mean as long as they don't do anything right? but what if they DO do something, the cops wont be able to monitor them


Well, to be fair, the whole pitch was that they were going to utilize this tool to circumvent the process of obtaining a warrant to determine potential "baddies". With this being said, I don't think any type of law enforcement should be able to bypass rules that govern them just "because". At the same time, Twitter on the defensive after having stated that they'd ban Trump's account if he continues in his "hate speech rhetoric tweets". Many users have started to boycott against Twitter for taking a stance "against free speech".

You can't have it both ways, I guess.
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Posted 12/12/16
While I don't know the degree of such measurements, in all honesty free speech is dead on Twitter. I think there is a lot of inconsistency with their standards as well.
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Let's play a game. If the shoe was on the other foot, how would you feel about the police circumventing warrants in investigations and profiling a group to which you belong?


Twitter has cut off access for a tool that law enforcement was using to monitor the social network for alt-right-specific keywords. Those included "SJW," "Deplorable" and "cuck" according to documents obtained by The Daily Dot. Media Sonar has been selling social media surveillance software to police departments for thousands of dollars. Twitter, for its part, cut off the firm's API keys in October and has vowed to terminate Media Sonar's attempts at making more.

Remember, using Twitter's data feed for spying and surveillance is a violation of the service's developer agreement. With the list of keywords, the Northern California chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union's evidence suggests that Media Sonar was selling itself as a way to monitor alt-right members specifically. One column groups keywords together under a heading named "Pepe Related." Pepe is a cartoon frog often included in alt-right memes.

Further documents (PDF) show that the firm pitches itself as a way to "avoid the warrant process when identifying social media accounts for particular individuals."

What's more, the company apparently directed law enforcement officials to not mention the Media Sonar by name in court, instead using "proprietary search engine" or "internet tools" when pressed for information under oath. It's a far cry from issuing cyanide capsules to its customers, but still pretty telling of the company's intent to keep its secrets safe.


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Posted 12/12/16

qwueri wrote:

Let's play a game. If the shoe was on the other foot, how would you feel about the police circumventing warrants in investigations and profiling a group to which you belong?


Twitter has cut off access for a tool that law enforcement was using to monitor the social network for alt-right-specific keywords. Those included "SJW," "Deplorable" and "cuck" according to documents obtained by The Daily Dot. Media Sonar has been selling social media surveillance software to police departments for thousands of dollars. Twitter, for its part, cut off the firm's API keys in October and has vowed to terminate Media Sonar's attempts at making more.

Remember, using Twitter's data feed for spying and surveillance is a violation of the service's developer agreement. With the list of keywords, the Northern California chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union's evidence suggests that Media Sonar was selling itself as a way to monitor alt-right members specifically. One column groups keywords together under a heading named "Pepe Related." Pepe is a cartoon frog often included in alt-right memes.

Further documents (PDF) show that the firm pitches itself as a way to "avoid the warrant process when identifying social media accounts for particular individuals."

What's more, the company apparently directed law enforcement officials to not mention the Media Sonar by name in court, instead using "proprietary search engine" or "internet tools" when pressed for information under oath. It's a far cry from issuing cyanide capsules to its customers, but still pretty telling of the company's intent to keep its secrets safe.




Ah, thanks for the summary, err quote. Although I would not entirely rule out some profiling, despite the apparent unethical nature I think of this nature it would be inappropriate. A crime prevention program not unlike Mirror Report that I dislike overall. Instead of an outright ban, they could let them have their social media accounts to track them better. Scary stuff.
Posted 12/12/16
Twitter will probably lose a nice chunk of It's member base to GAB, it's free of political censorship, and it looks to be a nice replacement for twitter. You can check it out at https://gab.ai/. I don't do social media, but I might me temped to try GAB.
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