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Must we hate Chitose? (Girlish Number)
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/13/16

RedExodus wrote:

wears an egg shirt
has an egg head

sounds legit


Can't really argue with that.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/13/16
I liked Kirino, so I feel your pain.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16
Chitose is a brat, no doubt about it, but I don't hate her. Kuzu-P on the other hand, is a first-class @$$. Funny story, he reminds me of a certain manga editor from Shirobako.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16
She's one of those people who's most likeable when far, far away. Get too close there's just too much personality to handle. I agree we all store a mini-Chitose inside us all. I honestly didn't think she would wear egg shirt for the entire season, does it have some sort of secret meaning? Can someone eggzamine this mystery?
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16

cosmoflanker wrote:

Chitose is a brat, no doubt about it, but I don't hate her. Kuzu-P on the other hand, is a first-class @$$. Funny story, he reminds me of a certain manga editor from Shirobako.


After the most recent eps I'm not so sure about that... I think he most right now frustrated about having a string of failures an not sure how to deal with it.

all of the characters have hidden depths in Girlish number.

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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16

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She's one of those people who's most likeable when far, far away. Get too close there's just too much personality to handle. I agree we all store a mini-Chitose inside us all. I honestly didn't think she would wear egg shirt for the entire season, does it have some sort of secret meaning? Can someone eggzamine this mystery?


Maybe...because she's a fresh new egg, already broken out of it's shell but not done cooking yet?

On the other hand, Japan does seem to be in an 'eggs are super cute!'kind of phase. Lots of eggy merch floating around.

On topic, I really like Chitose as a well-written character. While not the best person, she is extremely human and I love that. I hate her bratty moments, but there's a silent portion of myself that gets pretty damn snooty as well, so I can't help but relate. I want to see her grow and triumph as a voice actress without losing her not-so sweet edge.

In Japan, they have a thing called 'tatemae', which basically describes the facade one puts up in public to keep things polite, telling white lies in order to avoid hurting others' feelings, withholding your real opinions to avoid conflict, and so on. The opposite is 'honne', which is to express one's true thoughts and feelings. A normal Japanese person would default to using tatemae in most of the situations Chitose encounters...but Chitose usually does the opposite. (Flashback to the event speaker in episode one, laughing awkwardly as he cuts Chitose off by saying 'You're being too honest!') - this is the aspect of Chitose's character that I can't get enough of.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16

GotenLoooovesCorn wrote:

She's one of those people who's most likeable when far, far away. Get too close there's just too much personality to handle.


I'm not sure I agree. So far she hasn't actually caused all that much trouble for anyone besides herself (if I recall correctly); she's just been somewhat obnoxious to her coworkers. Sure, she treats her brother poorly, but family is different.

Chitose's coworkers seem to have a good read on her: they understand that she's full of herself and are able to deal with it - and derive entertainment from it. I have coworkers like that - horribly full of themselves, but entertaining nonetheless - and that's really all you can do with that kind of person. The pillow fight scene in particular makes me think that Chitose would be an entertaining friend.

Thinking about it, I probably identify with her more than I realize: Chitose is very open with people about herself and her opinions; she's not embarrassed to put her feelings into public action. Since her current feelings are that she's the center of the universe, she's not likeable - for good reason, but her fearlessness and lack of shame are really what have made her successful. If she directed that towards doing her work instead of being an asshole, she'd be great.

I think I'm a lot like that. I tend to be very open with people about what I care about, and I definitely used to think of myself way more highly than I do now. Thankfully the universe disabused me of my lofty opinion of myself with minimal damage.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16

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On topic, I really like Chitose as a well-written character. While not the best person, she is extremely human and I love that. I hate her bratty moments, but there's a silent portion of myself that gets pretty damn snooty as well, so I can't help but relate. I want to see her grow and triumph as a voice actress without losing her not-so sweet edge.

In Japan, they have a thing called 'tatemae', which basically describes the facade one puts up in public to keep things polite, telling white lies in order to avoid hurting others' feelings, withholding your real opinions to avoid conflict, and so on. The opposite is 'honne', which is to express one's true thoughts and feelings. A normal Japanese person would default to using tatemae in most of the situations Chitose encounters...but Chitose usually does the opposite. (Flashback to the event speaker in episode one, laughing awkwardly as he cuts Chitose off by saying 'You're being too honest!') - this is the aspect of Chitose's character that I can't get enough of.


I like this; thanks.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16
I like her, I see myself in her. The whole series, what I love the most, is how they give such a realistic aspect to work relations between the characters, instead of the stereotypical friendships in school girl anime. Like, yeah, they're all pretty crappy people in their own ways, and it's unconventionally not played off in a fanservicey way.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/14/16
I don't dislike Chitose, though I don't particularly like her either. What I do like is how everyone else navigates around Chitose. Pretty much everyone is aware of her ego and, thus, have a good handle on it. Whenever she starts yapping, the rest softly brush it off. They don't fan the flames of her delusions but rather allow it to smolder.
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Posted 12/15/16 , edited 12/15/16
She hasn't done anything malicious to anyone else, it's just that her perception of herelf until recently was way too optimistic. She is actually a little pitiful, but not deserving of hate IMO.
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Posted 12/15/16 , edited 12/15/16
I don't hate her, she's a pretentious brat, that's for sure, but she's real, she isn't some ideal character trying to make it big in the industry by her sheer awesomeness, she has flaws that are as real as they come, same with most of the cast, we've all met (or been) Chitose at some point in life, that's why, even though she acts like a bitch sometimes, I like her.

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Posted 12/15/16 , edited 12/15/16

MacMeaties wrote:

Well you're not really meant to initially like her or at least that is what I get from how the author has built her up. She seems like you are meant to come to like her as she progresses.


If anything I believe that the author built her character up perfectly by displaying her in a way that kind of irritates you. Instead of that typical character that you want to succeed just because they're the "MC" I believe the author developed Chitose to be seen kind of similarly to how she's seen by her fans within the show. Whether you hate her because shes a self centered ass a lot of the time, want to like her but get pushed away by how she won't change, or just unconditionally love her cause you're a good person who doesn't want anyone to go through these phases, it's obvious that the author didn't portray her in a way that's supposed to be unconditionally liked and supported because she's one of the MCs.
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New-year cleaning. Closing threads with no new posts since 12/31/2016.
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