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Civilians executed on sight in Aleppo
Posted 12/13/16




qwueri wrote:

Going in bombs blazing is a hell of a way of bringing about 'peace'.


Well lets send you in then, Rambo.

Bombing is actually the perfect way to bring about peace. You obliterate the enemy and make it where they no longer exist.
The only thing holding that back is international powers that have interests in continued chaos in the region.



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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/13/16

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Do you not understand they're ALL PART OF THAT SLAUGHTER because the Islamic State group is making it so by using hostages - and human shields? That's why I say people need to stop pointing the finger - something HAS to be done - every last person involved is part of that slaughter - and only one side has the devious motive - the other side is upholding the legitimately elected ruler of said country. Their tactics have to be forceful - and the IS has brought it to such a point.

It has to be quelled, there is no other choice - unless of course you want civilians to all be publicly executed and nothing done about it. So what's your answer? Make no mistake, the IS is not interested in a fucking ceasefire - they're holding hostages and executing civvies. This isn't about a peaceful resolution for extremists - it's about a holy war and taking what they believe is rightfully theirs by force.

War is and never has been GOOD vs. BAD - lets get that straight before we continue this. This current situation? it's about stopping further tragedy - even if tragedy is part of that. You don't see Russia holding families hostage and executing them on mere suspicion - you don't see them using them as shields either.


I understand the slaughter in Aleppo and other cities like it have little to nothing directly to do with Isis, that international aide workers have regularly been caught in the crossfire between the various factions fighting in Syria, and the 'elected ruler' has had very little compunction in participating in that slaughter. Going in bombs blazing is a hell of a way of bringing about 'peace'.


It doesn't matter what you call the insurgent groups who are doing the hostage taking and executing - it's all the same ideology - the point is they CAN'T handle this themselves because they have literal terrorists of whatever name you want to give them armed and encouraged to spread this ideology and eliminate those who do not accept. There is only one way to handle such a movement - and that is guns blazing. If you have any alternative suggestion, I'd be very interested to hear it, because I've mulled over this for years and recognized one thing - there isn't. If one side does not want peace - there can be no peace - and those that caught in the middle are the unfortunate. You can't just blame the people who are actually trying to stop this from spreading because they have to use force to do so - if they don't, they're dead too, just like the people currently being slaughtered.

There's no glory in ANY of it. I do however know the ideal world I'd like to see, and it's the exact opposite of the "submit or die" bullshit ideology running rampant now.
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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/13/16

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The reason why I mentioned the mexican government is because they do nothing and obviously, that has been really bad for the mexican people so no, I don't expect things to get better if the syrian government gives up. I never said nothing about giving up, I just wonder if their government is doing something to protect these people or nothing at all.

Yes, there needs to be a real war, probably WWIII.

Thank you for all your insight, I admit I'm very ignorant to what's happening over there


There is most definitely a real war - what I believe needs to happen is that the globalists need to lose their support - which in turn will take the feet out from under the worldwide insurgency. I think some countries are taking a stand against this globalist agenda, like Britain and Russia, as well as others - jailing corrupt bankers who caused their economies to collapse, taking steps to subdue the groups they fund - and the United States - the turmoil we now have brewing here is this stand. They're heavily integrated into the United States and that balance of power is shifting - people need to support this shift away from one world government - because they are stopping at NOTHING to make it happen - and that's why we see all this happening where the money is.

Question everything you're told - don't just buy the party line you're given by television. That's the first step (for us Americans, at least) - stand up for the freedoms we ALL deserve, do not let them be taken in the name of security - because that security has another name - bondage. They want the entire world in this bondage - and the paper trial (money trail) shows the lengths they're willing to go to, to make it happen. People are afraid everywhere, they are afraid to stand up and say we want to be free - and they want to make you more and more afraid - and they want you to fight your neighbors so they can step in and be the "hero" - and take away your freedom in doing so. It's happening everywhere - and has already happened in Europe in many places. It's now happening in the USA.

Sorry, I'm preaching. Just saying - what's happening over there is very much connected with what's happening on this continent as well, and many others. It's all coming together - the more people that notice it - the more steam that agenda loses.

We can have world peace - if we are allowed to actually help. Ideology that obstinately stands in the way of that lofty goal is what needs to be quashed - in all of it's forms - not just ISIS or ISIL - the billionaire's and corporations that support them - the leaders that support them. This world war - it can be avoided if people start questioning and DEMAND their freedoms - everywhere...
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People who harbor terrorists are just as guilty as the terrorists. I'll trust Allah to protect the innocent.


You're sick as fuck how are you not banned from these forums??
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Posted 12/13/16

Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Well lets send you in then, Rambo.

Bombing is actually the perfect way to bring about peace. You obliterate the enemy and make it where they no longer exist.
The only thing holding that back is international powers that have interests in continued chaos in the region.


As convenient as turning the earth to glass may sound to you, it's the kind of strategy that's sent thousands of Syrian refugees fleeing across the globe. Bombing isn't a neat or precise solution, and makes rebuilding considerably harder when the civilians are decimated in the process.



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It doesn't matter what you call the insurgent groups who are doing the hostage taking and executing - it's all the same ideology - the point is they CAN'T handle this themselves because they have literal terrorists of whatever name you want to give them armed and encouraged to spread this ideology and eliminate those who do not accept. There is only one way to handle such a movement - and that is guns blazing. If you have any alternative suggestion, I'd be very interested to hear it, because I've mulled over this for years and recognized one thing - there isn't. If one side does not want peace - there can be no peace - and those that caught in the middle are the unfortunate. You can't just blame the people who are actually trying to stop this from spreading because they have to use force to do so - if they don't, they're dead too, just like the people currently being slaughtered.

There's no glory in ANY of it. I do however know the ideal world I'd like to see, and it's the exact opposite of the "submit or die" bullshit ideology running rampant now.


Funny thing is, they aren't the same ideology, which is why the US government has been supporting rebel groups. But when those groups are driven into a years long siege, all deals have fallen apart, and they're left in a life or death struggle it's no wonder the situation turned into a shambles. Painting the rebels as terrorists may be convenient for absolving the regime of what it's done and is doing, but doesn't make the situation any less of a mess.
Posted 12/13/16
Wait, where have I seen this one before...

Oh yes, here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE8rV3-Zos
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Oh nice, RaisedInACult is back.
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It is richly ironic that there's all this talk of fake news, and here's CNN doing its fake news duty. It was just like the coached and lying Kuwaiti girl talking about how the Iraqi soldiers came and emptied the babies out of the incubators and shot them, like in the youtube I posted.

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Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/13/16

qwueri wrote:

As convenient as turning the earth to glass may sound to you, it's the kind of strategy that's sent thousands of Syrian refugees fleeing across the globe.




The majority of 'refugees' in this current manufactured 'refugee' crisis aren't even from Syria or war zones at all. I also personally don't care that there are refugees or economic migrants, what I care about is the policies towards them, which should be fuck off we're full essentially.

Bombing works incredibly if its done right. Which is to say overwhelmingly and brutally. Can't do that when you have useful idiots screaming 'muh human rights' while their puppetmasters plan out which new insurgency to fund and train, and what area to call a 'no fly zone' so they can arm them with heavy equipment.
Posted 12/13/16
Its an act of war to declare a no fly zone in a sovereign nation. But then again, the USA seems to have done away with the whole mess of having congress declare war, and just go ahead and make war without saying too much.
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Posted 12/13/16

Amyas_Leigh wrote:

The majority of 'refugees' in this current manufactured 'refugee' crisis aren't even from Syria or war zones at all. I also personally don't care that there are refugees or economic migrants, what I care about is the policies towards them, which should be fuck off we're full essentially.

Bombing works incredibly if its done right. Which is to say overwhelmingly and brutally. Can't do that when you have useful idiots screaming 'muh human rights' while their puppetmasters plan out which new insurgency to fund and train, and what area to call a 'no fly zone' so they can arm them with heavy equipment.


Whether you choose to stick your head in the sand or not, the influx was the result of scorched earth tactics and carries repercussions globally.

Meanwhile those overwhelming and brutal bombing runs kill civilians and make any sort of peaceful resolution a pipe dream.
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Xxanthar wrote:

People who harbor terrorists are just as guilty as the terrorists. I'll trust Allah to protect the innocent.


You're sick as fuck how are you not banned from these forums??


Xxanthar actually gets banned quite often. At least every other week for that matter. His bans usually last 2 weeks max and then he comes back to the forums to repeat the cycle.

Posted 12/13/16 , edited 12/13/16

qwueri wrote:



Meanwhile those overwhelming and brutal bombing runs kill civilians and make any sort of peaceful resolution a pipe dream.


Peaceful resolution? You have got to be kidding.

You can't have a 'peaceful resolution' with an enemy like this.

The US funded them and trained them, essentially created them, and they always bite the hands that feed them
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anti-soviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-1465715.html

Posted 12/13/16

qwueri wrote:


Amyas_Leigh wrote:

The majority of 'refugees' in this current manufactured 'refugee' crisis aren't even from Syria or war zones at all. I also personally don't care that there are refugees or economic migrants, what I care about is the policies towards them, which should be fuck off we're full essentially.

Bombing works incredibly if its done right. Which is to say overwhelmingly and brutally. Can't do that when you have useful idiots screaming 'muh human rights' while their puppetmasters plan out which new insurgency to fund and train, and what area to call a 'no fly zone' so they can arm them with heavy equipment.


Whether you choose to stick your head in the sand or not, the influx was the result of scorched earth tactics and carries repercussions globally.

Meanwhile those overwhelming and brutal bombing runs kill civilians and make any sort of peaceful resolution a pipe dream.


Comments like this are why I left before. Go look up the refugee statistics and see what a small percentage of actual Syrians were in there. They came from such diverse nations, its utterly ridiculous to buy into the story that they are fleeing bombing runs an scorched earth policies. Hows about the videos of asking some of them? "We want money! We want women!" and make sure you pay attention to the odd age/sex demographic that is totally uncharacteristic of "refugees fleeing bombing runs." Why so few women, children, elderly?


And while you're at it, go look at what those "rebel groups" are also known as. *cough*daesh*cough* This is total USA modus operandi of destabilizing a nation that doesnt do what the USA wants it to - start arming, training, funding the rebel groups and call them freedom fighters and use them as a tool to be tossed aside when they've outlived their usefulness to the USA's interests.

Only in this case, its OPEC's interests and the banking cartel's interests, to get their energystuffz more cheaply to Europe as an economic geostrategic move against russia.

Look at the big picture, and that's what it is. Geostrategic BS. Use whatever pawns necessary in whatever fashion, the ends justify any means to get it done.
Posted 12/13/16

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Xxanthar actually gets banned quite often. At least every other week for that matter. His bans usually last 2 weeks max and then he comes back to the forums to repeat the cycle.



Yeah. I'm silly like that.

I've been good since my return... I'm trying to make it to the new year. Sorry if you don't like my opinions.
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Posted 12/13/16

Xxanthar wrote:

War is for killing. I always scratch my head in wonderment when people get all shocked to see people getting killed in a war.


War crimes? Hospitals and schools should be off limits. But war is messy and whenever one side kills civilians the other side uses it to try and win the war of public opinion.
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