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Dark Souls is so very rage inducing, a game that feels addictive and yet at the same time you feel a strong hate while you play it, a feeling of you want to quit, quit the game now, because you've had enough, and you want it to end, you get past the point of where you were, and then you die, and have to start again, or something comes out and poisons you and before you can get to the purple moss clump in your inventory, you die, or something inflicts toxin and you lose HP even quicker, so you die faster, or something goes and does something worse, and inflicts curse, halving your HP and keeping you from going and using humanity.


To summon someone else to help you, and you have to break the curse, which to do that is really far away, or you step on a pressure plate, and arrows come from behind, and you die, or you were about to wait for the boulder, and when it wasn't there, you go and charge through, and then you die, because the boulder came back, or you try to fight the hydra, and it spits water projectiles, that change direction mid-flight, and change and home in on you, so you keep dodging, and weaving, waiting for the hydra to put its annoying head there, and you keep at it, and then you kill the hydra, and before all this, there's a gate keeping drake, but they call it a dragon, and it guards this bridge, with fire.

So the only way to get past is to hide under the bridge, wait for the fire, and you have to roll, dodge, roll under the bridge, and before you can do this, you would of died that many times, because before you get to the end, the fire has killed you and have to start again, or before you get there you go and think by starting a new game it would be a good idea to go and explore, and how wrong you are, there are skeletons near the beginning of the game, that will hunt you down and kill you, or when you think that's not annoying enough, you go into the valley of drakes, and there is a place, so annoying, drakes, spamming lightning, with unlimited mana, that can fly and dodge your attack, while spamming lightning, lightning that will break through all the stamina you have, then spam more lightning, when you get too close, they use the beak, and have annoying levels of HP and by the time you finally kill them they only give you 1000 souls, there lays a point in the game, when you want to progress further.

But instead you have to grind each area again, and again to level up, to be able to get past places that you would have a hard time, trying to do, when that's not enough, they put these swinging pendulum blades, that are about 4 times in succession, and they knock you off the ledge, and you have to start all the way, back from where you where, and something where along the way, when you thought that wasn't annoying enough, you find a way off the elevator, dodge jump over the pillar, and climb up the stairs, roll up into a ball, and get taken back to the undead asylum, where you meet one of the most annoying bosses in the game, so far, and it starts off with you having half your HP, when the battle starts, within about 0 to 1 second, you can die, and have to start again, with one attack from the boss, you die, and if it misses it might leave you with about 1HP, you dodge that,.

Then when you thought you avoided the AOE, it goes and does splash damage, over and over again it crushes your hopes and dreams, over and over again, it becomes this frustrating, eye twitching, thing that somehow, in spite of all that, is enjoyable, I know that is weird, and how it feels so hard, not to try and rage quit, because it's just ridiculous, but it has become my life goal to pass Dark Souls
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Dark Souls is easy though.
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Oh man, you poor thing. This is only the beginning of the pain and misery. And its not even technically the first game in the series. You have one more before this and two more after it.

But it will hurt you. It will hurt you so good. And you will learn to love it when it does.

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Hate to be "that guy" but I would suggest reformatting your post to actually be readable. It's pretty bad as it is and, frankly, it's tough to even understand exactly what you're saying.

That said, I think it sounds like you're just finding the game very punishing. It is. Or, it is until you learn how to play it. Don't take that as me putting you down though. The fact is that the Souls games use a very specific gameplay language and, at least out the outset, encourage a fairly specific play style. Once you figure that out and once you gain experience there's a good chance you won't find the majority of the experience all that hard at all in any of the Souls games outside of certain commonly accepted to be difficult moments.

If you're just getting into the series, though, don't let anyone tell you that the games aren't hard. The people who don't find the games hard are those who have played at least one Souls game before and already know what to expect. I died all the damn time in Dark Souls 2 (my first full on Souls experience) until I figured out how the game wanted me to play it and I eventually "graduated" to preferring to play with lighter armour and no shield at all. Then with both Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 I rarely died at all outside of a handful of scenarios.

The Souls games are very enjoyable and rewarding to attain some level of mastery at. I hope you do stick with them long enough to reach that point. Not everyone does.


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You have one more before this and two more after it.



Don't forget Bloodborne.
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There's a secret to it:
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I also recently started playing the first Dark Souls and half of my experience can be summarized as some enemy coming right out of nowhere and me panicking as they destroy me. Once you've figured out the layouts of certain areas, found your specific playstyle and learnt the patterns of bosses it gets easier, but still requires good reaction time on your part.

My most memorable WTF moment so far was probably my first Basilisk encounter in the Depths. I kill the thing, then promptly die at full health when the curse effect I didn't know about turns me into stone and leaves me cursed (all of which happened approximately two seconds from me getting attacked by the thing). I sit there trying to process what just happened for a good minute or so before realizing I'll have to go all the way back to the Parish and farm souls to buy a Purging Stone.

The fact I still played the game after that bit of sadism means there's probably something wrong with me.
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Seems like a lot of you are casuls. I honestly couldn't read the whole thing but I got the gist of it pretty early on, it kinda makes me wonder how you guys all play the Souls games. One thing you could do is learn to parry, it'll make the game a lot easier, learn stamina management and dodging. Armor is kinda irrelevant tbh but since you guys are new to it try to stay under 30% I think it is or near that area. Get Havel's ring to boost your equip load, rings are honestly the most important things in a Souls game, always pay attention to them. If you guys can/know how, go and get the Dark Hand so you can use it to steal humanity from human like enemies and npcs. Also go and make sure to get the hornet ring(Boost critical damage) or wolf ring which will boost poise(stagger resistance.) Dragons are weak to lightning and most resist fire, but dragon bosses give special weapons if you cut off their tails, go for those too. Always use boss souls for weapons and not the souls themselves.

Also, make sure to get holy weapons and shit like that lol.

Edit: Pretty much every souls game is cake after this but that's just me so don't pay much attention to that. If you plan to play the others, make sure you're able to breeze through this game on NG++ or higher, will really be a help even though the others have some drastic changes.
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Oh man, you poor thing. This is only the beginning of the pain and misery. And its not even technically the first game in the series. You have one more before this and two more after it.

But it will hurt you. It will hurt you so good. And you will learn to love it when it does.



It is the first and it isn't, DeS is first in the soul series as a whole but Dark Souls is like a series in itself since 90% of it separate from DeS with the exception of NPC personalities and what not. On that note, do you think DeS is harder than Dks?
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Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4


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It is the first and it isn't, DeS is first in the soul series as a whole but Dark Souls is like a series in itself since 90% of it separate from DeS with the exception of NPC personalities and what not. On that note, do you think DeS is harder than Dks?


A lot of Demons Souls inspires the first Dark Souls even in the level concepts. I'd say its definitely more is than isn't.

As for difficulty; Hmmm. I'm tempted to lean towards DeS over DS as you had less options at your disposal and the rough edges made for some rougher spots. Especially in terms of some of the level design. DS at least vaguely cared if you were lost. DeS didn't give a shit if you had been wandering scared, lost and alone for the past 2 hours while being waste deep in poison in pitch darkness.
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Dark Souls is easy though.


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The entire Dark Souls series and it's spin offs encourage a certain style of play and punish pretty much everything else. Once you figure it out it actually becomes something of a breeze really. Disappointingly so, really the only difficulty in the game is realising that the AI is playing rock paper scissors with you but always picking rock.
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Really, haven't beaten Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition (still trying but difficult to progress in the Steam version and afraid of hackers) but depending on your playstyle, its extremely difficult. Once you do know the enemy placements, if you screw up once, its over and I screw up alot.
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Hellishtenn wrote:
Really, haven't beaten Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition (still trying but difficult to progress in the Steam version and afraid of hackers) but depending on your playstyle, its extremely difficult. Once you do know the enemy placements, if you screw up once, its over and I screw up alot.


Much of all the Souls series is learning. That's half the draw of them really. Every time you get flogged and die you learn a little more about the system and the world. Till you go from having your ass handed too you to mastering the misery around you. That's the satisfaction of playing them, imo. They're hard and they're unforgiving but when you master them you feel like you've accomplished something.

Granted, you could just Google up the handful of broken builds for any given one of them and proceed to rotflmao through the game saying its easy. -.-

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Learning is honestly one of the biggest parts of the game. You don't need a particularly fast reaction time or hundreds of hours training to be decent. If you can't do something don't get hung up on it either, but don't quit on it.
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runec wrote:

Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyA8odjCzZ4


TrickedMJ wrote:
It is the first and it isn't, DeS is first in the soul series as a whole but Dark Souls is like a series in itself since 90% of it separate from DeS with the exception of NPC personalities and what not. On that note, do you think DeS is harder than Dks?


A lot of Demons Souls inspires the first Dark Souls even in the level concepts. I'd say its definitely more is than isn't.

As for difficulty; Hmmm. I'm tempted to lean towards DeS over DS as you had less options at your disposal and the rough edges made for some rougher spots. Especially in terms of some of the level design. DS at least vaguely cared if you were lost. DeS didn't give a shit if you had been wandering scared, lost and alone for the past 2 hours while being waste deep in poison in pitch darkness.


Ah, so you watch OnlyAfro as well.

I wish I could say which one is "Harder" I didn't encounter any difficulty in Dks until NG+ MFA(Don't wanna spoil the name) and I don't remember much from DeS except maybe how it was kinda buggy and glitchy, I need to replay it. I do agree with how Dks did have a way to guide you a bit if you somehow got lost though.
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