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What is it about the anti-hero or villain that pulls us to them? Are heroes unlikable? What do you think?

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qualeshia3 wrote:

What is it about the anti-hero or villain that pulls us to them? Are heroes unlikable? What do you think?


In the words of Mad Magazine:

(007 vs. Bond-villain)
Villain: "I'm sorry to be such an impolite host, but I have an appointment to keep with a certain bomb in Washington...I'd stay and see your untimely demise, but I do so hate violence."
007: "What's the matter, fat man?--Can't stand the sight of blood? When I get out of this, you'll see some real violence!"

The "villain" has just demonstrated that he is tasteful, punctual, and a considerate and attentive host, while the "hero" has responded by being rude, aggressive, combative and personally insulting.
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Ejanss wrote:


qualeshia3 wrote:

What is it about the anti-hero or villain that pulls us to them? Are heroes unlikable? What do you think?


In the words of Mad Magazine:

(007 vs. Bond-villain)
Villain: "I'm sorry to be such an impolite host, but I have an appointment to keep with a certain bomb in Washington...I'd stay and see your untimely demise, but I do so hate violence."
007: "What's the matter, fat man?--Can't stand the sight of blood? When I get out of this, you'll see some real violence!"

The "villain" has just demonstrated that he is tasteful, punctual, and a considerate and attentive host, while the "hero" has responded by being rude, aggressive, combative and personally insulting.



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Bad people are #relatable, because people are terrible
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Cuz deep down we're evil too.


Posted 12/17/16
Could you eat superman ice-cream all summer long knowing there's ice-cream of other flavors? And no, we're not having Spidey ice-cream bars. Having a variety of villains and heroes helps keep you wanting to try more, long as they are well thought out characters.
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Probably the same reason why fakes are valuable in Nisemonogatari: they do not conform to the standard of the group. Do to this, they can be real to themselves and acquire original characteristic. Making such original characters is risky but it may be the only hope especially when the status quo will lead to loses of net profit. The political success of Trump`s may be related to this phenomenon.
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Dunno, why do good girls like bad boys?
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MrAnimeSK wrote:

Dunno, why do good girls like bad boys?


Maybe because bad boys like to stay out of their comfort zone.
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Because a single virtue in a sea of black is more memorable than Vanguard McMarysue. In certain story telling structures in particular the protagonist hero has kind of a bland or simple personality to act as an audience surrogate, while the villain is developed beyond the call of action/destiny to answer how that villain came to be that way. And the more snark, self-doubt, and character you put into a protagonist the closer they come to being an anti-hero.
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qualeshia3 wrote:


MrAnimeSK wrote:

Dunno, why do good girls like bad boys?


Maybe because bad boys like to stay out of their comfort zone.


Yeah women get bored easy, that is no secret. And they like confidence and adventure and thrills.

Back on original topic, i think that sometimes the so called hero can be really cheesy and lame. Like a bit too much of a do gooder or just not "cool".(Batman is lame as fuck to me)
It is kinda funny though how we idolize villians in movies and rappers and we think they're so cool and bad ass yet in real life we usually consider criminals and violent people as scum.

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MrAnimeSK wrote:

Yeah women get bored easy, that is no secret. And they like confidence and adventure and thrills.

Back on original topic, i think that sometimes the so called hero can be really cheesy and lame. Like a bit to much of a do gooder or just not cool.
It is kinda funny though how we idolize villians in movies and rappers and we think they're so cool and bad ass yet in real life we usually consider criminals and violent people as scum.



This is true.
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we can sympathize with some, some have qualities that we cant hate and love to see in a character, as for me i like them when they actually have a good backstory that makes them who they are or if theyre personality is just great, badass or smart or clever, etc
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I think it's because heroes are usually pretty clear cut. At the end of the story you know he/she is going to win.

Anti-heroes and villains aren't necessarily clear cut. You don't always know what their agenda is. You don't always know what they're going to do to achieve their goals. They don't all follow the same basic formula like heroes do.
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Thanks for the comments, cool people.
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