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As the 2016 election shows, United States is losing their protagonist role in the global setting; something that they had keep since the end of World War 2. U.S. once viewed themselves as the protagonist who is the lone savior of the developing nations for Democracy and economic advancement. Under this narration, they believe that the developing nations is unchanging and that the third world problems had always exist; in reality, the developing nations is undergoing rapid change and the third world problems had only arise a few centuries ago beginning with the colonization from the European empires and now due to Neo-Colonialism. The citizen in the developing nations are fending off the transnational corporate from U.S. who are establishing a puppet government to oppress the locals.
Now, U.S. is losing their status as the protagonist to the second world nations as Putin set up an ally as U.S. president. This is the first time in the Age of Globalization where a foreign nation has a significant influence on U.S.; before this, the U.S. live in their own isolated world ignorant of external events. Will this be an opportunity for U.S. to face novel challenge and expand their world? Will this regress U.S. into second world, or even third world, status by Neo-Colonialism? Only time will tell.
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Give me a break, the US via the CIA has been overthrowing democratically elected governments in developing countries for decades.
Hardly justifies calling our country the great protagonist of the world. Sure we helped rebuild places such as Europe, Japan and South Korea, but much of the developing world on the other hand has been exploited If anything we have a very mixed record that drastically varies upon the geopolitical region in question.

I get that the US has been seen as the leader of the Western World, and I don't foresee that changing in the near future. We are simply the biggest and most powerful country in the Western World and the alternatives great powers for other western countries to consider hanging onto instead: Russia and China don't exactly have the best record when it comes to things such as human rights. good or bad, we are still better than the alternatives.

If US multinationals are stealing power from developed countries you can thank deals like the TPP pushed by people like Obama for that one. Status quo politics is the problem, not the solution to stopping such abuses.

Nobody other than upset post-election Democrats and the bought and paid for military-industrial complex puppet faction of Republicans seriously believes that the US is Russia's puppet. If anything not wanting to have a military conflict with a nuclear state that isn't attacking our military allies or us is only common sense.

I hope the US does scale back its military influence abroad, sometimes I feel like party leadership in both parties forgets that we are $20 trillion in debt, maintaining an empire isn't exactly cheap.

The US may be in a slow economic decline and left alone may regress to second or third world status, but that will be because of our incompetent politicians inability to balance a budget, not because of our imaginary puppet state status.

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Posted 12/18/16
Oh no, he / she created a thread
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You mean we kept getting involved in things that did not concern us at the cost of our tax dollars. If we are no longer the "protagonist" then it's a step forward.
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The USA was never a "protagonist." Sure, we're hardly the nastiest of countries out there, but the idea of the US being some heroic cowboy is the product of propaganda; internal propaganda, as well as the dreams thrust upon the country by sparkly-eyed non-US citizens hellbent on the whole "grass is greener on the other side" thing, and whatnot. The "hero" image was doomed to fall apart from the get-go, because it's a product of wishful thinking, a fantasy. Unrealistic expectations of this or any other country are fated to crumble.


before this, the U.S. live in their own isolated world ignorant of external events. Will this be an opportunity for U.S. to face novel challenge and expand their world?


This line is about one hundred years too late. The United States has been needlessly involved in foreign affairs since the turn of the 20th century. The country had faced heavy criticisms, regarding the lack of action throughout most of the World Wars. Then, however, the country stuck it's nose out and eventually swiveled into the negative spectrum of the "involved side," and is facing criticism for it.
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this is good..

i hate the idea of keep sticking our nose into other people's conflicts like this

personally... i don't get myself involved in some neighbor's domestic disputes over and over

i think the US needs to take care of its citizens first and then worry about others

you don't need to turn on the tv and watch the news to see orphans or homeless children.. i'm sure you can find a lot of them in your area..

the only thing is "out of sight out of mind"

hunger/homeless/orphans/poverty, etc.. are also here in the USA.. you don't have to look far for people who are in need of help.
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Of COURSE America is!

See this movie about America being TOTAL PROTAG

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I'd watch this anime.
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^count me in
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If we choose to perceive history as a narrative with a protagonist, the hero falling from grace doesn't mean they're no longer the main character.

No, the real reason the USA isn't a protagonist is, how the hell could a character introduced so late into the story be the main character? That's nonsense!

The real protagonist is either France or Britain. Probably Britain, because there's a reason we're discussing this in English.
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Nothing to worry about.
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Rowan93 wrote:

If we choose to perceive history as a narrative with a protagonist, the hero falling from grace doesn't mean they're no longer the main character.

No, the real reason the USA isn't a protagonist is, how the hell could a character introduced so late into the story be the main character? That's nonsense!

The real protagonist is either France or Britain. Probably Britain, because there's a reason we're discussing this in English.


I'd also throw China and Spain into there as possibilities.
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A country that shamelessly conducts acts of neo-imperialistic nature cannot be called the world's protagonist.
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Uh, the United States was never "The world's protagonist" to begin with. Initially, the United States got involved with the world under the guise of eradicating communism, and now it's all about altruism and helping others. I'm not sure where being a protagonist comes in, and the US isn't righteous by any means...I mean, we've done horrible things in the past and tried to conceal it all.
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Rowan93 wrote:

If we choose to perceive history as a narrative with a protagonist, the hero falling from grace doesn't mean they're no longer the main character.

No, the real reason the USA isn't a protagonist is, how the hell could a character introduced so late into the story be the main character? That's nonsense!

The real protagonist is either France or Britain. Probably Britain, because there's a reason we're discussing this in English.


I'd also throw China and Spain into there as possibilities.


China is possibly the oldest country on Earth, but until recently they didn't really exert power far beyond their borders the way the colonial empires of the West did.

Spain I'll grant you though, although they're a bit more recent than France and Britain
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