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This is not the first time that I have seen and reported a Holocaust denial thread and not the first time that a Holocaust denial thread was protected by moderators because the poster was being "polite". There is nothing polite about Holocaust denial. It is an evil insidious lie. A large number of people from my family were murdered in the Holocaust. I knew people who survived the concentration camps. It was real. It is not up for debate, and when Crunchyroll gives these evil people a platform and protects their posts it implies that owners and employees of Cruncyroll agree with these anti-Semites and believe that the Holocaust is something that is up for debate.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-976861/double-standards-regarding-evidence?pg=0
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md4124 wrote:

This is not the first time that I have seen and reported a Holocaust denial thread and not the first time that a Holocaust denial thread was protected by moderators because the poster was being "polite". There is nothing polite about Holocaust denial. It is an evil insidious lie. A large number of people from my family were murdered in the Holocaust. I knew people who survived the concentration camps. It was real. It is not up for debate, and when Crunchyroll gives these evil people a platform and protects their posts it implies that owners and employees of Cruncyroll agree with these anti-Semites and believe that the Holocaust is something that is up for debate.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-976861/double-standards-regarding-evidence?pg=0


Forwarded the thread to my superiors, we'll have a look.
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md4124 wrote:

This is not the first time that I have seen and reported a Holocaust denial thread and not the first time that a Holocaust denial thread was protected by moderators because the poster was being "polite". There is nothing polite about Holocaust denial. It is an evil insidious lie. A large number of people from my family were murdered in the Holocaust. I knew people who survived the concentration camps. It was real. It is not up for debate, and when Crunchyroll gives these evil people a platform and protects their posts it implies that owners and employees of Cruncyroll agree with these anti-Semites and believe that the Holocaust is something that is up for debate.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-976861/double-standards-regarding-evidence?pg=0


Questioning the historical validity of the Holocaust isn't anti-Semitic in the slightest. Please, calm down. I for one agree that the Holocaust did occur, and I can't even begin to comprehend the suffering of the Jewish people. However, your claim that all Holocaust naysayers are evil is a bit excessive, and just in bad taste. If you don't agree with such people then don't entertain their different perspective. The Holocaust is established historical fact, but people will agree to disagree. This site allows such threads to exist because it asserts that all parties are able to engage in open discussion. Also, it's a bit disrespectful to associate likely good people with being anti-Semite sympathizers.
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Denying something=Evil? Oh jeez, lmao.
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Denying something=Evil? Oh jeez, lmao.


To be honest, I laughed a little. Seeing things from a different perspective and/or questioning, in this case, a historical event doesn't make a person evil. So yeah, I share your sentiment.
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TrickedMJ wrote:

Denying something=Evil? Oh jeez, lmao.


To be honest, I laughed a little. Seeing things from a different perspective and/or questioning, in this case, a historical event doesn't make a person evil. So yeah, I share your sentiment.


I find it to be funny and sad at the same time that this mindset exists. I can see why one would be upset if they lost family members to this, but to call people who deny it evil is quite ludicrous imo.
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I'm mostly with OP on this one. While I'm not sure I would use the word evil I can definitely say with no doubt in my mind that denying the holocaust is obscenely disrespectful. It's disrespectful to the people who were affected and their families, it's disrespectful to the deceased who's lives were lost because of the atrocities and it's disrespectful to the brave soldiers who fought to end it, most of whom sacrificed everything in the process. I have no respect for people who propagate the false notion that the holocaust was fake, especially those who use that to justify their xenophobia and hatred like some of the blights that permeate this site.
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Ununoctium wrote:


TrickedMJ wrote:

Denying something=Evil? Oh jeez, lmao.


To be honest, I laughed a little. Seeing things from a different perspective and/or questioning, in this case, a historical event doesn't make a person evil. So yeah, I share your sentiment.


I find it to be funny and sad at the same time that this mindset exists. I can see why one would be upset if they lost family members to this, but to call people who deny it evil is quite ludicrous imo.


I don't understand the raw emotion that results from losing family to such a tragedy; but, I do know that the "denial" of the Holocaust is anything but evil. It's only natural to question the historical validity of an event that lacks circumstantial evidence. I mean, prior to their fall the Nazis decimated the concentration camps and buried most of what they had done. This alone effectively created doubt about whether or not such a horror actually occurred at all. Anne Frank journalized her experience, and survivors gave their own statements. That's where a lot of our knowledge of the even came from, and it's not enough for some people. It's unfortunate that such people operate on raw emotion when discussing such a disconcerting historical event. That alone creates a one track mind, and they can't acknowledge a dissenting opinion.
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Ununoctium wrote:


TrickedMJ wrote:


Ununoctium wrote:


TrickedMJ wrote:

Denying something=Evil? Oh jeez, lmao.


To be honest, I laughed a little. Seeing things from a different perspective and/or questioning, in this case, a historical event doesn't make a person evil. So yeah, I share your sentiment.


I find it to be funny and sad at the same time that this mindset exists. I can see why one would be upset if they lost family members to this, but to call people who deny it evil is quite ludicrous imo.


I don't understand the raw emotion that results from losing family to such a tragedy; but, I do know that the "denial" of the Holocaust is anything but evil. It's only natural to question the historical validity of an event that lacks circumstantial evidence. I mean, prior to their fall the Nazis decimated the concentration camps and buried most of what they had done. This alone effectively created doubt about whether or not such a horror actually occurred at all. Anne Frank journalized her experience, and survivors gave their own statements. That's where a lot of our knowledge of the even came from, and it's not enough for some people. It's unfortunate that such people operate on raw emotion when discussing such a disconcerting historical event. That alone creates a one track mind, and they can't acknowledge a dissenting opinion.


I doubt I would feel the same emotion as most from this, but I can definitely understand it. And yeah, it is natural to question how valid anything is really, which is what makes this funny. I mean it makes sense why some doubt things no one close to them had experienced and what not.
A lot of it is word of mouth, and while there are A LOT of people who can give the same statements, a lot of it is still word of mouth. I believe in the Holocaust, but it's understandable why some deny it. They're definitely not evil for denying it though.
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TrickedMJ wrote:


Ununoctium wrote:


TrickedMJ wrote:


Ununoctium wrote:


TrickedMJ wrote:

Denying something=Evil? Oh jeez, lmao.


To be honest, I laughed a little. Seeing things from a different perspective and/or questioning, in this case, a historical event doesn't make a person evil. So yeah, I share your sentiment.


I find it to be funny and sad at the same time that this mindset exists. I can see why one would be upset if they lost family members to this, but to call people who deny it evil is quite ludicrous imo.


I don't understand the raw emotion that results from losing family to such a tragedy; but, I do know that the "denial" of the Holocaust is anything but evil. It's only natural to question the historical validity of an event that lacks circumstantial evidence. I mean, prior to their fall the Nazis decimated the concentration camps and buried most of what they had done. This alone effectively created doubt about whether or not such a horror actually occurred at all. Anne Frank journalized her experience, and survivors gave their own statements. That's where a lot of our knowledge of the even came from, and it's not enough for some people. It's unfortunate that such people operate on raw emotion when discussing such a disconcerting historical event. That alone creates a one track mind, and they can't acknowledge a dissenting opinion.


I doubt I would feel the same emotion as most from this, but I can definitely understand it. And yeah, it is natural to question how valid anything is really, which is what makes this funny. I mean it makes sense why some doubt things no one close to them had experienced and what not.
A lot of it is word of mouth, and while there are A LOT of people who can give the same statements, a lot of it is still word of mouth. I believe in the Holocaust, but it's understandable why some deny it. They're definitely not evil for denying it though.


Word of mouth is a dubious method of conveying experiences let alone knowledge. I understand why people doubt the validity of the Holocaust, but I've never supported their perspective. The Holocaust, while being rigged in accepted fact, has a capacity for reasonable doubt. Since so much of the damning evidence was destroyed, what're we left with? Well, we have extensively journalized accounts and many similar verbal accounts of the tragedy. Many concentration camps exist even now, and I acknowledge that. In spite of this, there is a deficiency in physical evidence. I'm not deny there isn't any, in fact there is evidence, but many of the buildings used in the camps themselves were destroyed, as a final act of the war torn Germany. At the end of the day, you're entitled to your opinion and it's okay to question and/or inquire about history. Sometimes it's hard to believe in the Holocaust because it's too horrifying to accept that humans were ever capable of doing such an abominable thing.
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md4124 wrote:

This is not the first time that I have seen and reported a Holocaust denial thread and not the first time that a Holocaust denial thread was protected by moderators because the poster was being "polite". There is nothing polite about Holocaust denial. It is an evil insidious lie. A large number of people from my family were murdered in the Holocaust. I knew people who survived the concentration camps. It was real. It is not up for debate, and when Crunchyroll gives these evil people a platform and protects their posts it implies that owners and employees of Cruncyroll agree with these anti-Semites and believe that the Holocaust is something that is up for debate.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-976861/double-standards-regarding-evidence?pg=0


Forwarded the thread to my superiors, we'll have a look.


Thank you, you were the same person who dealt with it last year when a moderator protected a Holocaust denier.
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Whatever happened to freedom of speech?
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Whatever happened to freedom of speech?


Freedom of speech refers to not having to fear interference by a government or censorship. The operator of a website, just like any other business, has the right to determine who shall be allowed or denied access on its premises (or website), and also has to right to remove or alter user-generated content (forum posts) created by its users. You will find rules regarding this in the ToS of just about every website or service.
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