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Microsoft Becomes Linux Foundation Platinum Member
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Posted 12/22/16 , edited 12/22/16
Well.... I did not zee this one coming.

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/announcements/microsoft-fortifies-commitment-to-open-source-becomes-linux-foundation-platinum

So microsoft has decided to work together with the open source community and linux on some projects. Hopefully we will get more compatible standards out of this that cross all platforms.
Posted 12/22/16
So games can actually play in Linux?
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Posted 12/22/16
Steam works just fine in Linux, except now there's a download bug and nothing downloads.. waiting for them to fix it...
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Posted 12/22/16 , edited 12/22/16

TwinBlast wrote:

So games can actually play in Linux?


I play lots of games in linux. I don't even want to launch windows anymore.


jcslavek wrote:

Steam works just fine in Linux, except now there's a download bug and nothing downloads.. waiting for them to fix it...


Huh? Mine works fine. Maybe you are still suffering from one of steams really BAD updates.

Go into terminal and put in: steam --reset

It reconfigures steam and fixes some of their bad updates.
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Microsoft is a fox. Letting MS into Linux community is like letting the fox into the chicken coop..... I DO NOT TRUST THEM.... Linux had better be on their toes at all times! Microsoft could be setting up a situation where they'll sue Linux for intellectual property infringement, or something like that.....

Microsoft has been trying to kill Linux, and all things Open Software, for ever. Suddenly, they want to join with the Linux community? Very, very suspicious.
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Posted 12/22/16 , edited 12/22/16
...meanwhile, AMD graphics drivers stull suck on Linux and possibly everywhere else too
Posted 12/22/16 , edited 12/22/16
Embrace, extend, and extinguish

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-tells-devs-whatever-youre-doing-in-linux-windows-10-will-soon-do-it-too/

The only thing that keeps Windows on my machine is the 80% of my Steam Library requires it.
Posted 12/23/16

DeadlyOats wrote:

Microsoft is a fox. Letting MS into Linux community is like letting the fox into the chicken coop..... I DO NOT TRUST THEM.... Linux had better be on their toes at all times! Microsoft could be setting up a situation where they'll sue Linux for intellectual property infringement, or something like that.....

Microsoft has been trying to kill Linux, and all things Open Software, for ever. Suddenly, they want to join with the Linux community? Very, very suspicious.


This. Microsoft is evil.
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Posted 12/23/16
Just how many Linux-users does Microsoft expect to jump on this? I'm no system admin or anything, but I just don't see how they would manage to completely eliminate the need to run virus scanning software, plus windows doesn't provide the same level of control.
Posted 12/23/16 , edited 12/23/16

TheLandOfGiants wrote:

Just how many Linux-users does Microsoft expect to jump on this? I'm no system admin or anything, but I just don't see how they would manage to completely eliminate the need to run virus scanning software, plus windows doesn't provide the same level of control.


None, this is an attempt to get Microsoft's camel's nose under the tent of Linux, so that it may be further compromised.

Microsoft's OSes are nothing but virus malware at this point with win10.

Microsoft sold out and compromised themselves and everyone that uses their products, and those who bought off Gates dont want any commoners having a secure OS.
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Posted 12/23/16
The paranoia in this thread is laughable. MS has danced around the topic a bunch, but they're likely predicting the death of the paid desktop OS in the long term. This is simply them hedging their bets for if Windows ever truly drops out of the game they have some say in developing the replacement. Look at how Office has changed to a subscription model, the full version is still out there but often not preferred.

Their goal will fall into support, subscription, and licensing development tools long-term. In the enterprise section they will look towards large data management. If you look at companies they work with they include SUSE and Red Hat, this is pretty fucking obvious.
Posted 12/23/16

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The paranoia in this thread is laughable. MS has danced around the topic a bunch, but they're likely predicting the death of the paid desktop OS in the long term. This is simply them hedging their bets for if Windows ever truly drops out of the game they have some say in developing the replacement. Look at how Office has changed to a subscription model, the full version is still out there but often not preferred.

Their goal will fall into support, subscription, and licensing development tools long-term. In the enterprise section they will look towards large data management. If you look at companies they work with they include SUSE and Red Hat, this is pretty fucking obvious.


Naivete. Microsoft never would have been the completely monopolized market dominating entity they have if Billy boy didnt "play ball" with the "owners."

They have a preposterous lock on the desktop OS, their market share is not in jeopardy whatsoever.

The subscription model is just another scheme to extract money from people when they figured out that jeez, people arent just going to constantly upgrade to all of our latest products, let's force them to. It also forces down those auto updates that changes your product to their liking, including whatever back doors the owners of the government want in there.

They want to compromise Linux, because China flat out refuses to buy Microsoft.

2+2 aint nice sometimes, its just simple and straightforward.

The spooks want all the data, and that's a fact, jack.
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Posted 12/23/16 , edited 12/23/16

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Naivete. Microsoft never would have been the completely monopolized market dominating entity they have if Billy boy didnt "play ball" with the "owners."


Horseshit. The government was trying to knock them down for years, MS swamped them with paperwork if you remember the monopoly case.


They have a preposterous lock on the desktop OS, their market share is not in jeopardy whatsoever.


Until you look at developing nations and governments that are no longer using Windows due to closed source proprietary nature. This has caused problems in numerous sectors.


The subscription model is just another scheme to extract money from people when they figured out that jeez, people arent just going to constantly upgrade to all of our latest products, let's force them to.


Exactly, it's highly profitable whereas their desktop OS isn't. That's the important part here. They want to sell you software, tools, and subscriptions - things that are profitable today.


It also forces down those auto updates that changes your product to their liking


Yes, it also forces security updates and standards compliance.


including whatever back doors the owners of the government want in there.


You seem to be under the impression that the government and MS are friends. MS went to court to protect international customer data because compromising that integrity compromises their entire business.


They want to compromise Linux, because China flat out refuses to buy Microsoft.


What?

Of course mission critical stuff in China will likely have internally developed code - sorry, but they wouldn't touch public code beyond most basics which they will go over with a fine tooth comb. Equally you're a fool if you think the OS community wouldn't check source code of what's being added.


2+2 aint nice sometimes, its just simple and straightforward.


Yes, but somehow you're still getting five?


The spooks want all the data, and that's a fact, jack.


Yes, which they don't need MS to actually get when they effectively have your ISP acting as MITM and thus don't really need to compromise anything client side.
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Posted 12/23/16 , edited 12/23/16

prh99 wrote:

The only thing that keeps Windows on my machine is the 80% of my Steam Library requires it.


yea, certain games are the only reason i keep my windows partition as well. though i almost never use it... i can count on one hand the times i've logged into my windows partition this year.




i'll be able to use windows10 without M$ snooping all of my everything for profit?

Posted 12/23/16 , edited 12/23/16

If your memory only goes back 15 years, you're going to be missing a lot of the picture on Microsoft.

Yeah, its just the "closed proprietary nature"...

At least you acknowledge the data splitters at the ISP hubs connected to Utah, it seems.
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