Post Reply House Intelligence Committee report on Snowden full of falsehoods and lies
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The Committee is publishing lies with its reports, which was refuted one by one by Gellman himself.

https://tcf.org/content/commentary/house-intelligence-committees-terrible-horrible-bad-snowden-report/


Since I’m on record claiming the report is dishonest, let’s skip straight to the fourth section. That’s the one that describes Snowden as “a serial exaggerator and fabricator,” with “a pattern of intentional lying.” Here is the evidence adduced for that finding, in its entirety.

“He claimed to have left Army basic training because of broken legs when in fact he washed out because of shin splints.”

This is verifiably false for anyone who, as the committee asserts it did, performs a “close review of Snowden’s official employment records.” Snowden’s Army paperwork, some of which I have examined, says he met the demanding standards of an 18X Special Forces recruit and mustered into the Army on June 3, 2004. The diagnosis that led to his discharge, on crutches, was bilateral tibial stress fractures.

“He claimed to have obtained a high school degree equivalent when in fact he never did.”

I do not know how the committee could get this one wrong in good faith. According to the official Maryland State Department of Education test report, which I have reviewed, Snowden sat for the high school equivalency test on May 4, 2004. He needed a score of 2250 to pass. He scored 3550. His Diploma No. 269403 was dated June 2, 2004, the same month he would have graduated had he returned to Arundel High School after losing his sophomore year to mononucleosis. In the interim, he took courses at Anne Arundel Community College.

“He claimed to have worked for the CIA as a ‘senior advisor,’ which was a gross exaggeration of his entry-level duties as a computer technician.”

Judge for yourself. Here are the three main roles Snowden played at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). (1) His entry level position, as a contractor, was system administrator (one among several) of the agency’s Washington metropolitan area network. (2) After that he was selected for and spent six months in training as a telecommunications information security officer, responsible for all classified technology in U.S. embassies overseas. The CIA deployed him to Geneva under diplomatic cover, complete with an alias identity and a badge describing him as a State Department attache. (3) In his third CIA job, the title on his Dell business card was “solutions consultant / cyber referent” for the intelligence community writ large—the company’s principal point of contact for cyber contracts and proposals. In that role, Snowden met regularly with the chiefs and deputy chiefs of the CIA’s technical branches to talk through their cutting edge computer needs.

“He also doctored his performance evaluations…”

Truly deceptive, this. I will tell the story in my book. Suffice to say that Snowden discovered and reported a security hole in the CIA’s human resources intranet page. With his supervisor’s permission, he made a benign demonstration of how a hostile actor could take control. He did not change the content of his performance evaluation. He changed the way it displayed on screen.

“… and obtained new positions at NSA by exaggerating his resume and stealing the answers to an employment test.”

The first clause is too vague to check. The second seems to be based on an unsubstantiated public statement from Booz Allen vice chairman Mike McConnell. I cannot purport to know for sure, but I do know this. The exam in question is routinely given to freshly enlisted Navy and Air Force recruits to determine their aptitude for entry level “computer network operations.” Snowden was a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer with years of experience under his belt by then. I can’t explain why anyone thinks he would have to steal the answers.

“In May 2013, Snowden informed his supervisor that he would be out of the office to receive treatment for worsening epilepsy. In reality, he was on his way to Hong Kong with stolen secrets.”

True! When Snowden decided to leave the NSA with a cache of documents for public release, he gave a false cover story for his absence.

That’s it. That’s the committee’s whole case for Snowden as big fat liar. I won’t belabor the irony, but let’s note in passing that four of the six claims are egregiously false, and a fifth is hard to credit. We can only hope the classified report, which boasts 230 footnotes, has better evidence. If you know whether or not that’s the case, feel free to let me know.


Ugh. If they can't prove his guilt, then don't publish a stack of made up crap insisting on the guilt. Build an actual convincing case. Now it's the farthest thing from convincing- Actually it convinces me that the gov is covering its own tail.
Posted 12/22/16 , edited 12/22/16
We know and they know but Here the problem. He still fuck.
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Wouldn't believe a damn word the government tell you. We all know they're corrupt.
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"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Government got caught violating the 4th amendment. General warrants are not allowed, that's Civics101, but of course they are going to cover their criminality and of course nobody is going to be held accountable as usual.
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kevz_210 wrote:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Government got caught violating the 4th amendment. General warrants are not allowed, that's Civics101, but of course they are going to cover their criminality and of course nobody is going to be held accountable as usual.


...and of course, Snowden's not gonna be pardoned, and he's stuck overseas for the rest of his life.
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nanikore2 wrote:


kevz_210 wrote:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Government got caught violating the 4th amendment. General warrants are not allowed, that's Civics101, but of course they are going to cover their criminality and of course nobody is going to be held accountable as usual.


...and of course, Snowden's not gonna be pardoned, and he's stuck overseas for the rest of his life.


Idk why he'd ever want to come back here, he's probably safer in Russia, just saying.
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kevz_210 wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:


kevz_210 wrote:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Government got caught violating the 4th amendment. General warrants are not allowed, that's Civics101, but of course they are going to cover their criminality and of course nobody is going to be held accountable as usual.


...and of course, Snowden's not gonna be pardoned, and he's stuck overseas for the rest of his life.


Idk why he'd ever want to come back here, he's probably safer in Russia, just saying.


It's still his country that he tried to help, after all. But you're right- if he comes back, some yahoo might try to kill him even if his slate is wiped clean.

Posted 12/23/16
If I were him I would never return to the usa, not for another 30 years at least until the present crop of spooks are all dead.
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Sooo.....22 people spent 25 months and however many millions of tax payer dollars to come up with a mere 36 page "comprehensive review" that sounds like it amounts to little more than "He's a doo doo head"?

This has been your bi-annual reminder that there are no qualifications whatsoever to sit on a house committee.
Posted 12/23/16

runec wrote:


This has been your bi-annual reminder that there are no qualifications whatsoever to sit on a house committee.


That's kind of ignoring the qualifying factor of bending over for the party leaders in order to obtain said seat
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runec wrote:

Sooo.....22 people spent 25 months and however many millions of tax payer dollars to come up with a mere 36 page "comprehensive review" that sounds like it amounts to little more than "He's a doo doo head"?

This has been your bi-annual reminder that there are no qualifications whatsoever to sit on a house committee.





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Snowden and Manning should both be pardoned, but I just don't see it happening.
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BlueOni wrote:

Snowden and Manning should both be pardoned, but I just don't see it happening.



Marcus Octavius Disagree with you! :p Because those two are Roman Empire greatest threat!!!

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