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I don't know how to format this, apologies if it doesn't look very good.

So, I've always been fairly open minded to anime growing up but I never really got into it.

I watched good chunks of the Pokemon anime, and a bit of One Piece but other than that, I didn't really watch that much anime as a kid.

In my last few years of high school, I saw School Rumble (don't remember how I started watching it actually, I think it was on autoplay from something else and I didn't bother changing it till I got into it), binged that, waited a year or so and watched it again, found out there was a manga and a "third season" and finished those pretty fast.

Then, at some point I saw another (which I think I liked but honestly can't remember whatsoever) and then a friend recommended one called School Days. Seemed lighthearted at first, got weird / dark near the end but after that I didn't watch anything (this was sometime last year) and then I stumbled upon a game called Steins;Gate on Steam, beat it, got a couple endings, then that same friend told me it was also an anime so I binged that.

A bunch of people started telling me to watch Erased, and after hearing a guy talk about it on a stream, I decided to watch it.

(enjoyed it)

I like the medium, it seems like something I can get into, but not only do I not know where to start, I've a few other questions.

For example, subs / dubs. From what I can see, people have VERY strong opinions on this. I can't seem to pick a side either way. I feel like it depends. From the three or four anime I've seen all the way through, it really changed depending. For example, when I saw School Rumble, I actually preferred the dub over the subbed version. I felt like it just matched the show and characters better. Conversely, when I watched the few episodes I did of One Piece, the villains felt more...intimidating I guess? And the characters seemed more suited to their voices overall. Does it really matter which I watch? Or is it something people just pretend to argue about like with console wars (although lately more folks have started doing that more seriously haha)

Also, when I watch through a show all the way I think I get too attached or something because at the end I seriously feel depressed and / or upset.
I noticed it when I first finished School Rumble, but I had the third episode and manga to mitigate that feeling. Then, with Steins;Gate I got that way after the game and anime, and I seriously had a couple days where I just was really sad because of it. And then now with Erased, well, I'm there again (it is the main reason I am making this account in the first place) and the fact that I didn't particularly like the ending isn't helping, because it has added a feeling of frustration to the normal sadness.
I hope I don't sound insane here, is this a normal phenomena? Or am I just weird? I've gotten inklings of this with books or some games, but never as strongly. If it isn't just me, do you guys have any ways of getting over it?

Also...the vitriol I see when it comes to discussion. That's mostly an act, right? I don't have friends to really talk about this with but I'm afraid to really interact with folks online because I'm worried about making the wrong decision or saying something I think is true but is like taboo in the community. I mean, once I tried to play DnD because it sounded fun but at that point anytime I asked a question or something I was made to feel like an idiot and instead I went back to my normal routine. I'm very interested in the medium so I am slightly worried about that sort of thing happening again.

Thank you for your time.

Also apologies if this was in the wrong category; Ultimately it is about anime but because it's not specific I didn't know if I should put it in like, General Discussion or something.

Thanks again.
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idkwmgtis wrote:
Also apologies if this was in the wrong category; Ultimately it is about anime but because it's not specific I didn't know if I should put it in like, General Discussion or something.


I've moved this to the Advice, Info, Recommendations forum (it's listed under the "Crunchy Connections" section of the main forum page.)

I'll add more to this post in a minute, to answer some of your other questions.


[sub v dub] Does it really matter which I watch? Or is it something people just pretend to argue about like with console wars (although lately more folks have started doing that more seriously haha)

It's just a matter of preference, and most people have solid reasons for their own personal preferences. The arguments, unfortunately, seem to be not-pretend most of the time; quite a few people seem to believe their own solid reasons for preferring one to the other should be universally applicable to everyone. However, quite a few other people recognize it as personal preference and while they may want to share their own preferences with you (and such sharing might be persuasive enough to get you to reconsider your own), they aren't all one-true-way about it. A lot of people may also have a general preference, but find exceptions to it in certain anime, or find that what they like best is whatever version they heard first.



Also, when I watch through a show all the way I think I get too attached or something because at the end I seriously feel depressed and / or upset.
I noticed it when I first finished School Rumble, but I had the third episode and manga to mitigate that feeling. Then, with Steins;Gate I got that way after the game and anime, and I seriously had a couple days where I just was really sad because of it. And then now with Erased, well, I'm there again (it is the main reason I am making this account in the first place) and the fact that I didn't particularly like the ending isn't helping, because it has added a feeling of frustration to the normal sadness.
I hope I don't sound insane here, is this a normal phenomena? Or am I just weird? I've gotten inklings of this with books or some games, but never as strongly. If it isn't just me, do you guys have any ways of getting over it?


I've seen a number of people post that this happens to them. It doesn't happen to me much, but sometimes when I binge something, especially something fairly long, I feel a little at a loss once it's over. Like, it's taken up a chunk of my time every day for a while and I've come to know the characters and gotten used to spending time with the show and then it's over. Doesn't take me all that long to recover though.


Also...the vitriol I see when it comes to discussion. That's mostly an act, right?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Most of the regular users are pretty welcoming, and we have pretty strong rules about being respectful toward each other. So if someone does start getting harsh with you (not just disagreeing with you, but insulting you or getting obviously and repeatedly condescending and stuff like that) please click the "Report to Moderator" link. We aren't always able to respond instantly, but we do pay attention to such reports, and we do warn and ban people for being too mean to one another. Also, sometimes it's best to ignore the specific people who seem to be toxic (don't let them drag you into their viciousness), and just interact with the nicer folks. There are plenty of them.
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Welcome!

Subs/Dubs
Eh, there really isn't a right answer here. Watch whichever you prefer. I personally can't stand dubs and avoid them whenever possible but that's just my preference. I guess the one real upside to subs is that you'll be able to see more anime and see it sooner since not everything gets a dub and, even if it does, it usually takes a while to come out.

I don't think it's totally garbage to discuss subs VS dubs per se but, as in most things, the problem comes in when people start using their own opinion as if it were fact. There are upsides and downsides to both.

That sinking feeling
It's a definite thing for me as well, though I also feel it when I'm coming up on the end of a good game or a good book too. It's really just something that comes when you spend a lot of time with characters, a story and a world you enjoy. If it's really bleeding into your overall mood or making life difficult then it may be something you should explore further but, for the most part, I think it's just a sign that you've enjoyed something and would rather not see it go away.

Anime "Debates"
Sadly, it's not just an act.. well, not always anyway. Everyone has opinions and some people just don't want to accept that their opinion isn't the objective truth. Most of the people here are pretty cool though so while you may occasionally get some pushback on stating your feelings you shouldn't be too worried about getting attacked as long as you aren't an ass about what you think. It also always helps to be able to provide at least some reasoning for how you feel but there's nothing wrong with just throwing up your hands and saying "I dunno, I just don't like it." After you've been here a while you'll get to know the problem children and you'll learn to avoid them/ignore them because they'll attack you regardless. That's a "Them" problem, not a "You" problem.
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Here is my method of watching anime. If a show is appealing to me I do research on the writer/studio and follow that lead to hopefully get that feeling back of a great anime. Doesn't always work but sometimes I will read the manga to keep the feeling of the anime ending if there are more volumes doesn't always work but sometimes it fills in the blanks.
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Regarding Sub vs. Dub:

When I was new to the genre, I preferred dubs. Easier to understand, less concentration required, etc. But the more I watch, the more I appreciate subs--and the more than bad dubs grate on me.

The reason is that Japanese language and culture is very different in a lot of little ways. Dubs tend to whitewash those differences, while with Subs, you can always hear the actual words being spoken no matter what is written on the screen. Dubs make the shows easier to understand--after all, you don't have to know what a kotatsu or onigiri is, or what the difference between -san, -chan, and -kun is, or what the difference is between a character saying "suki da" and "aishiteru". But the more I watched anime and read manga, the more I started to learn about Japanese culture and language, and the more I started to want to get the unfiltered version.

But that being said, there are shows I've seen with really good dubs, where I still prefer the dubbed versions. So, to each their own.
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