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OP, have you never paid any attention to mythology as a whole? In many religions, gods have granted people the free will to screw up their lives/world, and tend to not give a damn about whether or not we do. Y'know, because the basic idea of being a god is that they're so far above us that we're basically ants, and that almost anything we do can't even begin to touch them. The whole "higher plane" thing. If there are gods, they have little incentive, other than personal whim, to pay any attention to what we do.
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If there are gods, they have little incentive, other than personal whim, to pay any attention to what we do.

Which begs the question: if there is/are a god(s), why worship it?
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Settle down chief. It's Christmas, go drink some egg nog


That reminds Me...WHY AM I NOT DRINKING EGGNOG?!

Imagine if the great Library of Alexandria wasn't destroyed, and the Human Race didn't suffer through the Period known as "The Dark Ages"; Ha, such a prophetic Name.

We would not only hold true knowledge regarding who knows what that was written within Alexandria's tomes, AND We as a Race, would be around 400 Years more advanced than from where We sit now. No telling what We as an altogether "Human species" could have ended up; both knowledgable MENTALLY, as well as adding on close to 400 Years...Imagine TODAY'S technologically advanced things, and THEN by adding close to 400 Years or so of Humanities Technological revolution...We have great things Today, but imagine if instead of living in hovels, and trying not to die by either Diseases, OR, the Pope and the Church going out of their way to burn You at the stake over RELIGIOUS crud...If it wasn't for Humanity having been LITERALLY stifled, not able to make...create...do various things that would One Day benefit the World as a whole in some form or fashion.

Many of these Events show that more innocents have been Killed in History due to RELIGION; SOMETHING THAT NO ONE CAN BE 110% SURE ABOUT, yet it's worth (to Them) the savagery. After all...."The Ends justify the Means."


P.S. - I am not being predjudiced towards the Religious Crunchyroll members Out there at ALL...Just saying, that wasn't My intention. <3

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To the op: I can write a really lengthy response, but since it's late and I'm feeling lazy, to answer your question, go on youtube and watch darkmatter2525 videos. Trust me, that'll definitely answer all your questions on this.

I always thought if I was god, I would just make everyone good. As darkmatter2525 said, give then free will to choose between multiple choices of good. No hell, no devil, no war, no pain, no sadness, everyone is happy, no one is mean, no evil, no anger, life is eternal bliss. Basically, as soon as the universe starts, everyone is already born into heaven. None of that suffering bullshit.

If god is real, and all powerful, all just, and all knowing, then wouldn't have god made it like this in the first place? That's why I think if there is a god, then it's certainly not like any stereotypical god from any classical religion. This god is a god that probably no one will ever truly understand. With that said, I can only come to the conclusion that

A. God doesn't exist.

B. God's an asshole who loves to see us suffer for it's amusement.

C. God is evil. (kinda still technically B, but I guess I meant for B to be just purely chaotic and psychotic, while C is being deliberately evil.

D. God created the universe and people and was like "Ok, you're on your own. You figure it out!"

E. God is good and all knowing, but not all powerful.

F. God is good and all powerful, but not all knowing.

G. God is evil, all powerful, and all knowing.

H .And whatever other variations, but I think you get the point.

Maybe one day we'll find out...or not. Who knows. All I know is is that there better be a damn good reason for all the shit that I've went through and go through. There also better be some really good payoff, like I go to heaven and it's like girls bravo or something.





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Personally, I go with the "it doesn't matter" point of view. Whether a god or gods or God or whatever are out there, we're still here. If there is a god/gods/God behind that, there's a reason to be here that they mostly refuse to reveal other than (in most faiths) to be good and help others. If there isn't a god/gods/God behind that.. being good still makes life better around you, which helps you as well. There's literally no downside, other than it takes some of your time/effort, and I know I spend plenty of that on stupid things as well anyway, so.. yeah. Not the worst thing in the world.

Basically the reverse of Pascal's Wager. Do good because it helps make things better here, and if it helps in the afterlife (if there is an afterlife), groovy. And this is coming from an atheist who just last night bought Christmas gifts and a bunch of food for a family he doesn't know because they lost everything recently. I know it made their life a bit better, and that makes me happy.
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People can be good and believe in god, or people can be bad and believe in god. Or people can be atheist and good, or bad. Who says god is a good guy? I think that comes from the typical classical portrayal of god. What if god is real, and god is just a big, invisible jerk? (look at my previous post) But yes, I agree that ultimately it doesn't matter. What really matters is being good to others to the best of your ability. You may falter, but you can always try better next time. No one is perfect, but there's always room for improvement of character.
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aeb0717 wrote:

OP, have you never paid any attention to mythology as a whole? In many religions, gods have granted people the free will to screw up their lives/world, and tend to not give a damn about whether or not we do. Y'know, because the basic idea of being a god is that they're so far above us that we're basically ants, and that almost anything we do can't even begin to touch them. The whole "higher plane" thing. If there are gods, they have little incentive, other than personal whim, to pay any attention to what we do.


There's another way to look at this. God is the ultimate parent and we are his children. While I'm not a parent I can see how painful it could be for parents to step back and let their children make mistakes and learn lessons. People want freedom, God gives it. In my mind God does give a damn.
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so like where do I go to get paid to have hotdogs thrown at my face?
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Minsc wrote:

There's another way to look at this. God is the ultimate parent and we are his children. While I'm not a parent I can see how painful it could be for parents to step back and let their children make mistakes and learn lessons. People want freedom, God gives it. In my mind God does give a damn.


I see us as all having to necessarily remain creative forever. God (this word can mean a lot, using it this way here) or the original of all of creation, as I see it, cannot fully interact with us until we finish maximizing our creativity from the paths we began. Time is all 1 and we are all coming together for a great equalization that occurs by aligning perspectives of all individuals, equalizing the extent an individuals immortality and requiring a sacrificial group of individuals (our planet) that adapts themselves blindly to prepare for this. Doing this requires experiencing all possibilities (out planet once again has this) to an extent that one can pass on their awareness, inclusive of all possibilities so far, to others. Only after this can a god individual that is the first of us, and will instantly affect anyone they interact with instant change, be able to affect the potential of others without diminishing anyone's creativity.
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Bow down to our feline savior!
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ironh19 wrote:

so like where do I go to get paid to have hotdogs thrown at my face?


Craigslist.



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Time is all 1 and we are all coming together for a great equalization that occurs by aligning perspectives of all individuals.


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maybe another flood is coming



>> But Pooh is cute and the rest his group
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rip my comment joking about how if you hate christmas you must simply be the grinch or poor, which I'm sure rip this comment too :v thought it was kinda funny but w/e
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aeb0717 wrote:

If there are gods, they have little incentive, other than personal whim, to pay any attention to what we do.

Which begs the question: if there is/are a god(s), why worship it?


As a proponent of the Glorious Philosophy of Laziness, I can't help but think of these gods as the personification of my ideal. Then again, worship sounds like a pain, so...


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Holidays are for relaxing and putting your feet up, not beating your brains out.


really because i see people going nuts and running around everywhere and not having time to do anything during the holidays also they get mad a lot



I worked 5 years at a hotel, and can tell you that people on vacation are the absolute worst. Christmas, in particular, makes assholes out of probably nice people, otherwise. People with shit to do, like people on business or moving across the country--almost uniformly kind and reasonable people. I wished everyone had shit to do. People on vacation, though? Fucking ruthless.
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