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Generalizations.



Revolting.
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TwinBlast wrote:

Sorry what is that then?


Mansplaining what a woman calls the moment in time when she eventually realizes that you are simplifying things, so that she can comprehend the meaning of what you are saying.
Posted 12/28/16

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That more of a personal pet peeve than anything else. Yes you are the one recruiting, so you make the rules but that more a opinion than anything else. Witch is fine I guess.


I think a majority of employers would feel the same. It's just common sense to dress up a bit if you are looking for a job. It's shows that you have a bit of interest in getting hired.


Ah no. It depends in what job you want man. That more of a opinion again. Some employers could not give a rat ass how you dress. I know I seen people dress really really stupid for a job. I even have secretaries dress really questionable when I been to the dentist or some other thing. Also some people have not clue how to dress for anything. It will be better if you tell them to comeback better dress if they really want the job. That would really indicate they are serious about it. Like I say your the boss and you make the rules.


>> First impressions make a difference in job interviews also coming prepared is this really the first time you have heard of this?
so who due you think going get hired the person with sloppy unkempt clothing or the one who took time to shower and clean up?
skill is just part of it it's the whole package.
Posted 12/28/16 , edited 12/28/16
MTV is still a thing people watch? They probably just alienated a good percentage with their poorly considered ad. gj
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No, I not repeating myself. Simply because you found some new way to say the same thing he say again but in a different way and extreme way. Also you are using a extreme example so I would not even bother answering here. This conversation was done awhile ago too and I will keep it that way.
Posted 12/28/16

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TwinBlast wrote:

Sorry what is that then?


Mansplaining what a woman calls the moment in time when she eventually realizes that you are simplifying things, so that she can comprehend the meaning of what you are saying.

That cancer. I think my humanity die inside a bit. Excuse me while I go watch Husky dog videos.
Posted 12/29/16 , edited 12/29/16
The Ad:

Holy shizzlebats, that's pretty bad. I'm surprised that was even signed off by anyone in the marketing department. I don't know why anyone would think that was a good idea. While I accept there's a logical notion behind "white privilege", I don't think people understand that it's not necessarily something that a "white male" controls or can manipulate the system with. It's a system that's been in place for a while and just pointing at the white men and screaming "PRIVILEGE!" isn't really going to do anything. This advertisement/clip isn't even coming from the right place. It comes off as racist and sexist in a sweeping generalization.

It bewilders me why they thought this was a good idea, especially in light of recent events. However, I guess they're trying to show some type of tolerance for those who are on that "extreme" spectrum.

Dressing Up For Interviews:

Truth be told, I've been hiring people for about 5 years now. Since I'm in the IT field, I generally will hire someone who comes in wearing a nerdy t-shirt and cargo pants versus someone who's wearing a dress shirt. Then again, it's notoriously well-known by human resource departments that the IT teams generally have nothing to prove and just do their jobs. Not all IT is like this - larger offices and bigger companies require dress shirts and all that goodness. Essentially, you have to know the person interviewing you and the company you're applying for.

(Essentially, both Xxanthar and TwinBlast are right - just that it depends on the industry, the interviewer, and company. It is somebody's opinion, but it's a generally accepted opinion that you should at least be clean-kept. I would hire someone that's not dressed up, but I wouldn't hire someone that smells like they've been kept in a sewer for a year or doesn't shower often.)
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I think the call to stop saying "I have black friends" as an argument against perceived racism is pretty piss poor one that should be stopped on the grounds of being feckless as an argument, so I think it may have a point there. The accusation that this privilege is extended on a racial boundary? Not so much.


In any case, the blue lives matter argument is bullshit. If they didn't think it was a thing, they would be more successful in saying it is percieved unjustly, or in other words, not based on fact. In any case, what the fuck? When did blue lives matter=Black lives don't matter?


They aren't saying police men and women don't matter, they're saying their is no such thing as blue life any more than their is green life for soldiers. It's a dangerous job and it's terrible when any of them are killed in the line of duty but the pint is if you as a cop decide your sick of the shit you can take off the blue and get a new job (not that you should have to but you have the option) - BLM has grown into a ridiculous monster but it's still true that even if being black is whats making your life shit you can't go "fuck it I'm gonna try being white for a while see what all the fuss is about".
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I think the call to stop saying "I have black friends" as an argument against perceived racism is pretty piss poor one that should be stopped on the grounds of being feckless as an argument, so I think it may have a point there. The accusation that this privilege is extended on a racial boundary? Not so much.


In any case, the blue lives matter argument is bullshit. If they didn't think it was a thing, they would be more successful in saying it is percieved unjustly, or in other words, not based on fact. In any case, what the fuck? When did blue lives matter=Black lives don't matter?


They aren't saying police men and women don't matter, they're saying their is no such thing as blue life any more than their is green life for soldiers. It's a dangerous job and it's terrible when any of them are killed in the line of duty but the pint is if you as a cop decide your sick of the shit you can take off the blue and get a new job (not that you should have to but you have the option) - BLM has grown into a ridiculous monster but it's still true that even if being black is whats making your life shit you can't go "fuck it I'm gonna try being white for a while see what all the fuss is about".


Claps slowly ...I can't believe you had to explain that on here, or anywhere else, but thanks for actually explaining the differences.

Please take a bow, you are awesome.

It's a bit insulting to compare a job to someone's life, especially one where you get shot at, but this is America.

Where 245 years of slavery is suppose to be forgotten in 140 years, even when 70 of those years was spent being severely oppress.
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I like how they were like "y'all can have Kanye" Reminded me of the Racial drafts skit from the Chappelle Show
https://vimeo.com/61499874
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DeadlyOats wrote:

Even this guy got it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsHCnohmAXQ#t=611.661

And he called it what it is. Ignorant, racist, crap.


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The add is not racist, and the responses are not logical. Having your privilege challenged is not the same as racism.


The only privilege that exists is money.

And still, rich people shouldn't feel bad for being rich.

Nobody has to check their "privilege", it is not white people's fault that they're born with white skin and expecting them to feel guilty for what happened in the past is childish and ignorant. Let the past go and move on. Stop focusing on your skin color, black people have all the same rights as white people in America.

Be proud to be who you are, never feel guilty about it. Be proud to be black, be proud to be white, be proud to be Hispanic, be proud to be asian etc etc I will only judge people on their actions and not on things they have no control of like skin color.
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So what privileges do white people get?
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Yeah that was annoying.

It was treating white people like we are the sole problem and disregarding any argument for us.

BlueLivesMatter is a thing because with all this cop hate some people are seriously starting to essentially be racist against cops. I know cops isn't a race but the way they treat them is the same if not worse than a racist white guy treats a black guy. Yes there are corrupt cops out there but others put their freaking lives on the line to keep us safe and these people REALLY need to check their privilage.

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BlueLivesMatter is a thing because with all this cop hate some people are seriously starting to essentially be racist against cops. I know cops isn't a race but the way they treat them is the same if not worse than a racist white guy treats a black guy. Yes there are corrupt cops out there but others put their freaking lives on the line to keep us safe and these people REALLY need to check their privilage.


BlueLivesMatter is a thing because some police unions have fragile egos and god complexes. Oh, and being a police officer isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the US.

Comparing it to racism or privilege is utterly absurd.
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Metazoxan wrote:
BlueLivesMatter is a thing because with all this cop hate some people are seriously starting to essentially be racist against cops. I know cops isn't a race but the way they treat them is the same if not worse than a racist white guy treats a black guy. Yes there are corrupt cops out there but others put their freaking lives on the line to keep us safe and these people REALLY need to check their privilage.


BlueLivesMatter is a thing because some police unions have fragile egos and god complexes. Oh, and being a police officer isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the US.

Comparing it to racism or privilege is utterly absurd.


I said kind of. Not completely but it's a useful analogy.

Also it's not about Fragile egos when cops are litterally being denied service our outright attacked! Just for being cops!

Again some cops are corrupt or trigger happy but there are so many others just trying to do their job. And again it's a job where they could lose their lives!

IT's not about being one of the 10 most dangerous jobs. This isn't a contest where only the top 10 have the right to say anything. It's still a fact cops have a job that may require them to go up against people with guns and in such a situation they are likely targets to get shot.

The basic definition of racism is "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races." and treating all cops as evil and hating them because they are cops more or less fits that definition. Again they aren't a race so it's not technically racism but it's just about as bad and it's really hypocritical to act like you are against racism yet be okay with cops being treated this way.
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