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Is Marriage just a meme?
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And I thought MGTOW was just some funny, baseless thing...
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Posted 12/30/16 , edited 12/30/16

TwinBlast wrote:

Not even close. Nice try though. Also look a the pyramids


I did. I took a wrecking ball to them. Ryu, you have been warned multiple times about pyramids. TwinBlast, in the future if you are part of the quote pyramid creating chain, please edit your replies to remove the oldest part(s) of the pyramid; don't just hide them behind spoiler tags.


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Yeah i don't see it, it's not obvious to me or anyone so


While not super obvious, I don't think the early part of this conversation was that hard to understand (but maybe I'm wrong). However, in spite of use of emoticons, it can be hard to read tone and sometimes confusion occurs. Here's the main way I interpreted things:

Someone throws in the idea of polygamy

Ryulightorb expresses that he finds the idea of polygamy repugnant.

TwinBlast seems critical, but tone seems fairly light (most of the time when I see someone say "filthy casual" these days I assume they are doing so to add levity rather than to genuinely insult). May genuinely like polygamous relationships, but mainly seems to be implying that dissing someone else's preferences isn't cool.

Ryu seems to interpret that as a negative commentary on his own preference, and makes a serious statement that compactly provides his rationale for monogamy preference.

Twin feels that interpretation indicates that Ryu missed his point about dissing other's preference not being cool.

Ryu expresses (with some humor, expressed by emoticon) that he believes TwinBlast was reacting to Ryu saying eww about polygamy, but Twin thinks that further indicates Ryu doesn't get it.

I, however, can't really tell if Ryu is saying "this part of the conversation is about whether or not polygamy or monogamy is better" (thus missing the point about whether or not it's okay to be disparaging about other people's preferences) or if Ryu knows that the conversation is at least partly about being disparaging, yet recognizes that it came up as a result of him expressing his opinion about polygamy so is pointing that out as the likely "why" for Twin's retort.

And I could be misreading any part of that, I guess.

Anyway, not really sure I should post that analysis here, as I don't want to derail the thread, but considering how much back and forth there was already, I'm going to risk it, and hope that at least most of the thread continues along the "is marriage just a meme" topic.
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Posted 12/30/16

toquenotbeanie wrote:

And I thought MGTOW was just some funny, baseless thing...


It's picking up steam I suppose, although personally not a huge fan of organized rant communities. Personally, I just want to keep to myself and don't frankly want to be surrounded by so much negativity. You cannot enjoy the positive aspects of your life when all you do is talk about the contrary.

From what I have heard a lot of the movement consists of men who got financially ruined and got crappy court ordered visitation terms with their children post divorce, but haven't looked into it all that much tbh.
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Posted 12/30/16
Because after the disney credits roll, they don't have any idea what to do.
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In more serious contemplation, marriage is not "just" a meme. It only self-propogates because it offers real, tangible benefits to the married and to thr products of the married.
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Posted 12/30/16

runec wrote:


TwinBlast wrote:
When people bring up what if you divorce your wife, what would happen to everything you build? His answer was this. My wife and I sign some paper that would prevent any of us getting fuck over. If I ever marry a woman or guy I would address this before anything else.


Prenup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement

Also, Onepoll only does online surveys so I would take that infographic with a grain of salt.
how do people not know about this?

kayne west talks about it all the time in his songs
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In today modern societies the women can have their own live and live on without the urgent need of man, in day past most of women took care of the house and didn't have a job leaving them to be dependent of the income of the men, divorce and separation of marriage wouldn't be common as today today society where the marriage rarely reach more than 10 years. It is no wonder why and social institution such as the marriage at common sight seems to be failing. But it have not failed the society yet.

Others social institutions that are deeply affected by marriages such social security,adoption, inheritance, family finances and immigration do work today thanks to it today , but the main and natural goal of marriage which is to produce offspring and social stability seems in danger to the less conservative men and women dude that both parts are not taking into consideration it importance. Sometimes seems for the eye of common's as a magic thing that only works on TV movies and Hollywood stars.

It is not the the wedding itself that give the marriage a meaning, the wedding is only a social announcement of social reediness of both parties that a marriage union is going to take place. It is the Marriage certificate that state the marriage nothing else. those who denies the marriage effects by prenuptial cluses are foreshadowing it's own failure.

The liberals goes by the says that marriage is obsolete and live each other as boyfriends with "benefits" for a couple of years together, not realizing that doing so is a de facto marriage called Union Marriage that can be certificated at your local justice system for the sake of those born into that Natural Union or Union Marriage in rights such as feeding for kids (who have no blame on the reason why they came to this world) and other expenses.

The conservatives thinks that family without marriage is a instant failure in society, when many have proven it wrong , the conservatives won't recognize that Marriage does have faults , but they won't fix it in fear of affecting many people egos such as " can the father by law have working paternity leave ?" and many others.

In my opinion marriage still a real thing like it or not, with benefits or solemnly by mutual love , if the couple decides that it will work it does , but not only from ceremony and cake , but from respect and right to reach each other as a personality that depends one front the other in a world where the trust for others and respect seems to more blurry thanks for lack of self responsibility for self and the loved one.
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I wont deny that this sort of thing happens nowadays but those stats are ridiculous. I dont think half of all women have a back up man.

Well she chose you over the guy she friend zoned didnt she? Her back up man might be her next best option if it doesnt work out between you two. But she prefers you. Maybe the other guy is just her way of defending herself from getting heartbroken.
Posted 12/31/16 , edited 12/31/16
Yes. Marriage is an Interweb meme. We all are part of the Interwebs, too, and all marriages are homosexual memes. Why? Because there are no women on the Interwebs. Only men... And spiders.
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Posted 12/31/16
Only Spiderma'am can get married?
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Posted 12/31/16
Marriage has no value to human life. People are simply slaves to their urges.
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Posted 12/31/16 , edited 12/31/16

saksiss wrote:

Marriage has no value to human life. People are simply slaves to their urges.

Its a status thing. It lets other people know that youre taken and its the next level beyond just being boyfriend and girlfriend.

Also its a way to tie the knot and express the ultimate commitment to each other, at least thats the intended purpose. Ideally youd both be Romeo and Juliet, but some people get married for other reasons.
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I'd be interested in the male respondent's side of that, ie do they have a backup woman, would they re-marry, do they have a mistress, do they casually hook up with other dudes (it's a thing, a lot of married men seem to think it isn't cheating if they do it with another dude), etc.

Personally, being a married man, I think marriage is like anything else. It has its ups and downs. Sometimes it kicks your butt and makes you want to live alone, but other times you realize that wouldn't solve anything and that it's infinitely more worthwhile to work through your problems as a couple.
I find marriage itself is pointless. You can live with someone for your entire life and dedicate yourself to them if you want, but marriage is more or less just a financial institution set up by the government...hence why in North America, even if you decide not to officially marry your life partner, the government will force "common-law marriage" upon you! Yippie!

Anyways. While I don't regret being married and love my wife very much, I'm also fully aware that if things ever didn't work out, I would never bother remarrying.

I got a good chuckle out of the monogamy/polygamy argument above, though! Both have their merit--and both have facets to them that are difficult. For me, polygamy would mean having to not just deal with one person's problems or arguments, but a whole slew of different people's. The thought of that overwhelms me! However, I don't think either poly or mono are "good" or "bad". Whatever works!
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Posted 12/31/16

TopPercentRaticate wrote:


saksiss wrote:

Marriage has no value to human life. People are simply slaves to their urges.

Its a status thing. It lets other people know that youre taken and its the next level beyond just being boyfriend and girlfriend.

Also its a way to tie the knot and express the ultimate commitment to each other, at least thats the intended purpose. Ideally youd both be Romeo and Juliet, but some people get married for other reasons.


Those people are so disgustingly sad.
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Meme? Haha no, it's only a few individuals in developed countries which can think like this. The other 90% of the species lives and dies by marriage. It's a way of existence, not choice or habit. You cannot judge, because you are only a flawed human. I think a lot of people misunderstand why there is marriage. There is the whole entire property thing, which may be huge. But there are other reasons besides economic. Loneliness, stability, household, common interests, lifelong friend. Look I get the fact that a lot of younger people are looking for alternatives to marriage, that's great, explore all of that. However, I remember my mom and dad who had been married for 50 years, and that was an amazing love story. You don't often get that kind of thing without marriage. I have that, and I can't imagine anyone else but my wife of 25 years. So if you do decide to go your own way, be sure that it's the best way, and not necessarily because you don't agree with core culture.
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