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Baha_Java wrote:

With one more day in the year I thought it would be fun if we all recount the stupidest thing our respective governments have done this year.

I'll start us off with the good old 242, The Bahamas.

So, voter registration is down and election time is only a few months away. The Parliamentary Registration Department has been moaning about how people need to come and register to vote. So what do they do? Turn away women who are showing too much cleavage.

http://www.tribune242.com/news/2016/dec/30/cover-breasts-register-vote/?news

Our antiquated registration system aside, what kind of photographs are they taking for voters cards? I personally don't wear tops that expose my cleavage because I don't have any cleavage (and now for my next trick, watch as I put on this vest and make my breasts disappear) but why in the name of all that is beautiful would a voter's card photo need to show anything below shoulder level?

Some of my male co-workers said everyone (male and female) should go register with no pants on because obviously these people have nothing more important to worry about.


Can I ask what your goal here was with this post? To piss people off? To have an honest conversation?

I could just as easily make a thread about the things the government does right. One that would be far more numerous and vast then this poor attempt at shaming is. There are thousands of individuals who do their job and do it well. They do things that people like yourself take for granted everyday because your too busy sucking up the emotion juice box to see the reality of the world. Which is hard working men and women who perform thousands of correct tasks and make a few mistakes.

Tall order to f*cking understand. I know.
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While I agree with you that there are thousands of men and women who work for the government that do their job well, I also know that these are not the people in charge. Rarely does a competent person make it to a position of authority, largely because they're often too smart to realize that the steps it would take to get there aren't worth it. Stupid people also form tightly knit groups, sort of how certain ethnic groups stay together and block anyone who isn't from that country from getting promoted. At my workplace, the Mainland Chinese and Hong Kongese have united against the Taiwanese. These two groups do not associate.

So, yes, while there are people who do their jobs competently every day, they often are overshadowed by their management who take full credit for their successes and let their butts hang out in the wind when it doesn't.

Tall order to f*cking understand. I know.
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Akage-chan wrote:

While I agree with you that there are thousands of men and women who work for the government that do their job well, I also know that these are not the people in charge. Rarely does a competent person make it to a position of authority, largely because they're often too smart to realize that the steps it would take to get there aren't worth it. Stupid people also form tightly knit groups, sort of how certain ethnic groups stay together and block anyone who isn't from that country from getting promoted. At my workplace, the Mainland Chinese and Hong Kongese have united against the Taiwanese. These two groups do not associate.

So, yes, while there are people who do their jobs competently every day, they often are overshadowed by their management who take full credit for their successes and let their butts hang out in the wind when it doesn't.

Tall order to f*cking understand. I know.


Pure theory.

This shows little understanding of the brilliant compartmentalization of our government to ensure that most sections have oversight that isn't too vast. If you're insinuating there is some culture of elite officials who have somehow convinced those working directly under them to work for a tightly knit groups benefit and not the nations then you are wrong in a broad sense. That is too vast of a thing to really perpetuate without problems.

Now are there individuals who probably fight for things that benefit themselves rather than a broad American people? Probably. You could say that for all jobs though. I highly doubt they conspire outside of their own minds. It wouldn't take much to incite a revolution against them.

Am I saying government is perfect? No. I'm saying this this nasty insinuation of governance that you on the far right make about there being some ethical conjecture of destruction forcing its hand against the people with high ranking officials is utterly wrong and misinformed. Go meet these people instead of theory crafting. It will change your mind. Trust me.
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Posted 12/31/16

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VZ68 wrote:

Tried to start WWIII with Russia.


*Spends the whole year being criticized for not being decisive enough.

*Is decisive and is criticized for not being thoughtful enough.

Gotta love the endless well of bias.


He needs to stand the fuck down. Russia is a threat he started after all.

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VZ68 wrote:


mxdan wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

Tried to start WWIII with Russia.


*Spends the whole year being criticized for not being decisive enough.

*Is decisive and is criticized for not being thoughtful enough.

Gotta love the endless well of bias.


He needs to stand the fuck down. Russia is a threat he started after all.



Not even remotely true.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-17840446

I mean really. Is a little research that hard?
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Posted 12/31/16
Nice job!
US did a bad job with both China and Russia! (CR by the way)

Can't wait for what more they will do or stirr up, even when putin got more rep by the media lately against how obama handled things.
Also how trump and the rest can't see whats better for the future when they are in the top ranks.
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Governed.
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mxdan wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


mxdan wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

Tried to start WWIII with Russia.


*Spends the whole year being criticized for not being decisive enough.

*Is decisive and is criticized for not being thoughtful enough.

Gotta love the endless well of bias.


He needs to stand the fuck down. Russia is a threat he started after all.



Not even remotely true.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-17840446

I mean really. Is a little research that hard?


Yeah, his NATO and spying programs that fell completely apart and broke treaties had nothing to do with Russia getting pissy.

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Yeah, his NATO and spying programs that fell completely apart and broke treaties had nothing to do with Russia getting pissy.


You mean the ones that were already built before he got into office? Yeah. Totally his programs.

And come on, do you really think Putin's consolidation of power and (if you looked at that link) change of policy back to 1980's is something that can be ignored? Putin is a old soul of the cold war KGB that decided to return Russia to it's old ways after the slight progressivism of the late 90's. I would be very surprised if he actually wanted to cosy up with America in the slightest. He simply wants to change it so he can assume more power then he has.
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mxdan wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

Yeah, his NATO and spying programs that fell completely apart and broke treaties had nothing to do with Russia getting pissy.


You mean the ones that were already built before he got into office? Yeah. Totally his programs.

And come on, do you really think Putin's consolidation of power and (if you looked at that link) change of policy back to 1980's is something that can be ignored? Putin is a old sole of the cold war KGB that decided to return Russia to it's old ways after the slight progressivism of the late 90's. I would be very surprised if he actually wanted to cosy up with America in the slightest. He simply wants to change it so he can assume more power then he has.


Never spy on a spymaster.
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VZ68 wrote:

Tried to start WWIII with Russia.



And it'll be a few years until "cheered wildly as Russia conquers small neighboring nations and starts WWIII"

appeasement doesn't work with tyrants



That's the thing though, there's an alliance already formed to block that. Just happens the Ukraine was never in it. Can the whole of the other NATO nations hold back Russia? Will the EU get off its ass and do anything besides kill itself? At one point you have to question the health and future of the body you're trying to save.

As for stupid things my gov't did this year. Quarter Point interest raises which are barely anything if at all. Oh wait, the US Government can't control its own interests rates, a private company does that. My bad.
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SHACLUB wrote:


VZ68 wrote:

Tried to start WWIII with Russia.



And it'll be a few years until "cheered wildly as Russia conquers small neighboring nations and starts WWIII"

appeasement doesn't work with tyrants



That's the thing though, there's an alliance already formed to block that. Just happens the Ukraine was never in it. Can the whole of the other NATO nations hold back Russia? Will the EU get off its ass and do anything besides kill itself? At one point you have to question the health and future of the body you're trying to save.

As for stupid things my gov't did this year. Quarter Point interest raises which are barely anything if at all. Oh wait, the US Government can't control its own interests rates, a private company does that. My bad.


NATO was half the problem in the first place. I take that back, NATO is the problem. First off NATO said they wouldn't make members out of the former USSR member states. Which they have been doing. Second, other than the US, only Poland is the member state meeting GNP goals set forth by NATO regs. NATO member states couldn't do shit against Russia, and Russia is doing nothing but protecting it's borders. Do you think the USA would allow ISIS to set up camp on our border?

Fuck no.

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My government believes it's more important to focus on the possibility of a foreign government having the capability to hack into and expose their e-mails rather than the content of those e-mails themselves.


^^^Exactly.

And that a crime really isn't a crime if you're a politician and have "no intent" to commit that crime, even if that crime involves classified documents and unsecured devices... and those classified documents ended up on a pedophile's computer who just happens to be married to your top aide... and some of those emails contain evidence of tampering with the election process of your own election (which most people would consider a much more heinous crime than another country hacking into those emails and releasing them and exposing said crimes to that nation's citizens so as to be fully aware of the shady, criminal activity that candidate is involved in behind the scenes).

But what I'd consider the dumbest thing about it all is all of the people who refuse to admit she actually committed a crime, regardless of what type of nonsensical, unethical lie offered in her defense that she didn't have any intent of committing a crime. If you go out and commit a crime and stand before the cops, magistrate, DA, and judge and try to offer that as an excuse, they straight up tell you "Ignorance of the law is no excuse." Plain and simple. And then these people, even after refusing to accept her having committed an actual crime, still refuse to admit that she mishandled classified information even after sending this information over an unsecured server through unsecured devices and was HACKED! That's about as textbook a definition of careless and criminal mishandling of classified information as it gets! But, just because she's on their "team" and Obama said she didn't do anything wrong (to me, his words were an act of obstructing justice at the highest level) these people blindly accept that and still wanted her to hold the highest elected position in this government. I don't want to hear anything from these people regarding Trump and supposed ties to Russia when they can't even own up to their own team's blatant criminal acts.

And I'm not even a Republican (independent, identify as Libertarian) or a Trump guy (can't stand the guy) and it infuriates me to see this level of ridicule and blame placed on him before he's even taken office. I thought the level of delusion and outrage was as high as it could get when Obama took office, but libs this year have taken it to a whole new level of insanity. Liberal journalists are actually calling for his assassination on twitter. I mean, seriously, a whole new level.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/11/trump-threat-tweet.png
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I recall a debate where our current President said Russia wasn't a problem????? Just a regional power exerting it's influence? I think he laughed as well...I don't remember let me go look it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9oVC-mGW8

Wow just looked at it worse than I thought.....never mind.....I will go back to watching anime....Wow I'm surprised the republicans didn't use this as more ammunition...
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Play their own citizens.
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