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And yet public opinion of them is relatively even. So I'll trust a widespread idea over your opinion xD.

If it makes you feel any better I tune into Al Jazeera often as well. They have a slight conservative lean but they aren't bad.


Yes, because, if the people reading it are just as left leaning, that surely means that they're non biased when they agree with it.

And where are these glorious figures you're citing for "public opinion is relatively even". When BBC does allow comments (it used to be that you could comment on every BBC article), I read more about how biased they are than the actual topic itself.



http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-2014-10
Posted 12/31/16

mxdan wrote:


Akage-chan wrote:


mxdan wrote:


And yet public opinion of them is relatively even. So I'll trust a widespread idea over your opinion xD.

If it makes you feel any better I tune into Al Jazeera often as well. They have a slight conservative lean but they aren't bad.


Yes, because, if the people reading it are just as left leaning, that surely means that they're non biased when they agree with it.

And where are these glorious figures you're citing for "public opinion is relatively even". When BBC does allow comments (it used to be that you could comment on every BBC article), I read more about how biased they are than the actual topic itself.



http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-2014-10


Lol... If they are so trusted how come nobody watches them?

Bro, forget polls and surveys and deal with what's in front of your eyes. Surveys like this are totally dependent on the questions that are asked. those questions are often skewed one way or the other depending on who is doing the survey. Even my liberal friends freely admit PBS is a government subsidized mouth piece for the DNC. It's that obvious.
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The television news used to nearly have a monopoly on the concept of the news... Newspapers were always a thing but maybe the turning point was when the television news started being about to actually cover wars in real moving pictures on your home television WITH sound... Was that the Vietnam war when it happened for the first time? (I forget)

But now they have competition in the internet and TV is willing to use the same tricks the internet uses to get you to watch... How does the internet try to get your attention when they know you wouldn't give it? Clickbait!... now, when more people than ever are getting weaned off television and going to sites like youtube, netflix and...maybe even crunchyroll to get their entertainment instead, they have to get your attention any way they can. So therefore, here comes the "news" shown in the format of a reality tv show! Tv stations don't just report the news anymore, they create it! Not only that, they will even tell you how to feel about the news too. With all the sensational things they throw at you it would be easy to not know how to feel... So they tell you how to feel/think! Oh, someone got elected for president that they don't like, "that's horrible!" Oh wait, you actually wanted them in office, all you have to do is change the channel to another station, "That's wonderful they won!".... etc

You can find whatever opinion you share just by changing the channel. Wanna know what that is most like? The internet! It's the same way on the internet. if don't believe me, just search about some controversial issue then type the exact opposite of what you believe and search for that instead...
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Using cheap tricks to sell "news" has been around since the late 1800s. Yellow journalism sold flashy titles, and they still do it today, but they got a lot more clever with their marketing on the internet. The baseline point is, no news channels can be singly trusted, it's better to get varied perspectives from multiple resources and cross-reference them but who has time for that?
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the onion lol
Posted 12/31/16

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The television news used to nearly have a monopoly on the concept of the news... Newspapers were always a thing but maybe the turning point was when the television news started being about to actually cover wars in real moving pictures on your home television WITH sound... Was that the Vietnam war when it happened for the first time? (I forget)

But now they have competition in the internet and TV is willing to use the same tricks the internet uses to get you to watch... How does the internet try to get your attention when they know you wouldn't give it? Clickbait!... now, when more people than ever are getting weaned off television and going to sites like youtube, netflix and...maybe even crunchyroll to get their entertainment instead, they have to get your attention any way they can. So therefore, here comes the "news" shown in the format of a reality tv show! Tv stations don't just report the news anymore, they create it! Not only that, they will even tell you how to feel about the news too. With all the sensational things they throw at you it would be easy to not know how to feel... So they tell you how to feel/think! Oh, someone got elected for president that they don't like, "that's horrible!" Oh wait, you actually wanted them in office, all you have to do is change the channel to another station, "That's wonderful they won!".... etc

You can find whatever opinion you share just by changing the channel. Wanna know what that is most like? The internet! It's the same way on the internet. if don't believe me, just search about some controversial issue then type the exact opposite of what you believe and search for that instead...


Ah! Someone who gets it. There is no such thing as unbiased news any more. If you want unbiased news, you better be standing there in person as the news happens.
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Of course the polls were wrong on all the liberal news station. When you overpoll democrats to republicans 10 to 1. of course your going to get the outcome that you want.

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LateRabbit wrote:

The television news used to nearly have a monopoly on the concept of the news... Newspapers were always a thing but maybe the turning point was when the television news started being about to actually cover wars in real moving pictures on your home television WITH sound... Was that the Vietnam war when it happened for the first time? (I forget)

But now they have competition in the internet and TV is willing to use the same tricks the internet uses to get you to watch... How does the internet try to get your attention when they know you wouldn't give it? Clickbait!... now, when more people than ever are getting weaned off television and going to sites like youtube, netflix and...maybe even crunchyroll to get their entertainment instead, they have to get your attention any way they can. So therefore, here comes the "news" shown in the format of a reality tv show! Tv stations don't just report the news anymore, they create it! Not only that, they will even tell you how to feel about the news too. With all the sensational things they throw at you it would be easy to not know how to feel... So they tell you how to feel/think! Oh, someone got elected for president that they don't like, "that's horrible!" Oh wait, you actually wanted them in office, all you have to do is change the channel to another station, "That's wonderful they won!".... etc

You can find whatever opinion you share just by changing the channel. Wanna know what that is most like? The internet! It's the same way on the internet. if don't believe me, just search about some controversial issue then type the exact opposite of what you believe and search for that instead...


Ah! Someone who gets it. There is no such thing as unbiased news any more. If you want unbiased news, you better be standing there in person as the news happens.


Well, partisan news goes all the way back to the civil war. Post civil war it sort of starts to even out with the incorporation of advertisers and their need to reach a wide audience. Then it all sort of goes batshit after the Vietnam war and hippy movement.

Here I wrote a whole research paper on the subject that's kind of shitty but has some interesting information if your interested:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13JQB2Y82ZE0pknMizfz-rZota4gDarTQXRFjqCPilz4/

The problem is not that there aren't relatively nonpartisan news sources. It's that they are drowned out by the biased ones because they are far more profitable.

Nonbias is boring. Which means the average citizen loses interest and goes to the shock sources.

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Of course the polls were wrong on all the liberal news station. When you overpoll democrats to republicans 10 to 1. of course your going to get the outcome that you want.

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You don't understand polling at all as made evident by this comment.
Posted 12/31/16

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The problem is not that there aren't relatively nonpartisan news sources. It's that they are drowned out by the biased ones because they are far more profitable.

Nonbias is boring. Which means the average citizen loses interest and goes to the shock sources.



Which is why it is so dangerous to suggest that a biased news source such as PBS is unbiased.
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And you do. Seems to me if the polls were right we would have crooked Hillary as the Prez.
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The only thing good about cnn now is when there is a hurricane that hits the southern part of the usa or east coast otherwise I don't bother watching it.
Posted 12/31/16
I watch the Los Angeles morning news usually for traffic and weather, as for politics i tune out.
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And you do. Seems to me if the polls were right we would have crooked Hillary as the Prez.


Yeah, but it's not because they polled more democrats then republicans. These polling stations usually use gradual change in polling numbers based on the same group of people over time. They use it as a metric of how opinion is changing in larger groupings. They don't just poll random liberal areas and call it good.

The reason why the polling was surprising was that public final opinion didn't match with polling changes (Which had shown a rise in Hilary for public sentiment.).
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WSJ is my fave.

I don't watch TV.
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