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Swamps make many gurgling, squishing, moaning and choking sounds when drained. You will get used to it after a while.
Posted 1/3/17

Xxanthar wrote:

Expect a lot of liberal biased groups, committees, agencies to vanish into the night come Jan 20th. It's called losing an election. Enjoy.


Instead, they'll be replaced with conservative biased groups, committees, and agencies that do exactly the same thing but in political opposition.
That's not draining the swamp, that's just changing the smell of it.
The gurgling will just be what the GOP will be doing when the conservatives that are hoping for a "corruption-free government" under Trump proves to be just another tall tale that never happens (never upset a conservative with hope, they lose all sight - just like an extreme liberal).

I laugh at the conservative tears when they're trying to bank on the same type of false hope that the Democrats had for Obama. Two sides of the same coin.

Posted 1/3/17

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Swamps make many gurgling, squishing, moaning and choking sounds when drained. You will get used to it after a while.


>.Thanks i needed a good laugh
Posted 1/3/17 , edited 1/3/17

ninjitsuko wrote:


Xxanthar wrote:

Expect a lot of liberal biased groups, committees, agencies to vanish into the night come Jan 20th. It's called losing an election. Enjoy.


Instead, they'll be replaced with conservative biased groups, committees, and agencies that do exactly the same thing but in political opposition.
That's not draining the swamp, that's just changing the smell of it.
The gurgling will just be what the GOP will be doing when the conservatives that are hoping for a "corruption-free government" under Trump proves to be just another tall tale that never happens (never upset a conservative with hope, they lose all sight - just like an extreme liberal).

I laugh at the conservative tears when they're trying to bank on the same type of false hope that the Democrats had for Obama. Two sides of the same coin.



As it should be. Liberals no longer hold power. The people ripped liberals out of power this past election from the presidency all the way down to city dog catchers, nationwide. Now let's see if things improve or get worse. If enough people think things improved, then trump gets another 4 years, if not, someone else will take his place and we will do it all over again.

BTW trump is not a conservative, I don't expect trump to enact only conservative policies. Trump is a populist. The only reason I voted trump is that I don't want liberals picking supreme court justices or judges that will continue to shred the constitution. I also expect stronger border enforcement and an improved job market. Anything else Trump can accomplish is just icing on the cake.
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Apparently Trump's also been criticizing this move by congress: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-ethics-idUSKBN14N1BW

Though he sounds more critical of the timing than of the act itself.
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Apparently Trump's also been criticizing this move by congress: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-ethics-idUSKBN14N1BW

Though he sounds more critical of the timing than of the act itself.


To his credit, I can't say I think the timing was exactly smart.
Posted 1/3/17

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As it should be. Liberals no longer hold power. The people ripped liberals out of power this past election from the presidency all the way down to city dog catchers, nationwide. Now let's see if things improve or get worse. If enough people think things improved, then trump gets another 4 years, if not, someone else will take his place and we will do it all over again.


This "shift of power" happens every 4 to 8 years. The repetition is pretty much standard in the US elections nowadays. Once the GOP takes control, they lock down certain programs and then just coast until people realize that they're not doing anything. Then a shift to Democrat/liberal occurs and they open up too many programs and make too much adjustment (sometimes at the cost of the economy, sometimes at the cost of "liberty/freedom" from the conservatives' view).

I was hoping that once all of this corruption had been exposed that the American people would finally start to get tired of the repetition of this process. Unfortunately, at the moment (at least), it appears more so that conservatives are trying to bask in the fact that they've won (which, for me, was rather expected - it's more common for Republicans to take the Presidency after a Democratic President has reached the end of their second term than the other way around; thus, made more sense for Trump to run as a Republican).


Xxanthar wrote:
BTW trump is not a conservative, I don't expect trump to enact only conservative policies. Trump is a populist. The only reason I voted trump is that I don't want liberals picking supreme court justices or judges that will continue to shred the constitution. I also expect stronger border enforcement and an improved job market. Anything else Trump can accomplish is just icing on the cake.


I can't really disagree with you in regard to Trump not being a "true" conservative/Republican (please, I'm not pulling a "no true Scotsman" logic here - just agreeing with you). Though, I can't say that he's a genuinely a populist either (you and I could debate that for eternity, it's our subjective stance). Also, you can't exactly deny that conservatives are more prone to view him as "their champion" because he's kind of spearheaded the reform to take Democrats out of power in most positions (except NC - where the Republicans had done as much damage as they could have and needed a reform of the opposition direction, at least in Governorship).

I have doubts about him being able to improve the job market too greatly. The market is being saturated with those with degrees, without anywhere to go. It will be significantly easier for Trump to bring back entry-level positions that don't require degrees (manufacturing and construction, for instance) than it will for him to bring the overall job market up. This will still cause a disconnect with those who are with decent degrees but are struggling against competition at lower rates. I'm sure you'd argue that any job growth is good; which, I'm inclined to agree to a point. But there is more than one cause to the fluctuating (and declining) job markets.

Border enforcement would be good. You and I would disagree on our stances on those who are already in the country, surely (so not going to bring that up as a point to really get into). I think the idea of increasing our border security and restructuring some of our security programs (like the TSA) to be more practical/functional is a good one. Some of Trump's "reasons" for this, I don't agree with (like his stance that we let in some "bad hombre" - sorry, had to do it). The bad types will get in regardless of what Trump or the border control program does; they have resources and will utilize them. Law enforcement would have to start to focus on this as well to really "force" out the bad ones - not much border patrol/security can do to stop them (a wall, no matter what it's made of or how high it doesn't stop corruption from our side of it).
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President-elect Donald Trump on Tuesday criticized the timing of House Republicans’ move to undercut a nonpartisan congressional ethics board, saying in a pair of tweets that lawmakers should focus on issues that he considers higher priorities, including tax reform and health care.
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In two tweets Tuesday morning, Mr. Trump seemed to express sympathy with the move on its merits, calling the watchdog office “unfair.” But he said, “With all that Congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the Independent Ethics Watchdog, as unfair as it…may be, their number one act and priority.” He added that he would prefer a focus on issues “of far greater importance!”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-questions-timing-of-gop-move-on-ethics-board-1483459804



President-elect Donald Trump criticized House Republicans Tuesday for making one of their first acts a vote to gut the independent Office of Congressional Ethics, arguing that tax reform and health care should be higher priorities.

"With all that Congress has to work on, do they really have to make the weakening of the Independent Ethics Watchdog, as unfair as it may be, their number one act and priority," Trump asked over Twitter the morning after the surprise and secretive move by the House GOP.

"Focus on tax reform, healthcare and so many other things of far greater importance!" he added.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/house-gop-votes-gut-independent-ethics-office-44521722

even Trump himself, the most villainous Republican according to WP, CNN, NY Times and HuffingtonPost, the one who's supposed to bring the Armageddon to the US, criticized the move by the GOP saying it should not have been done, and that they should focus on important things instead. he called the ethics committee "unfair", but he was against removing it altogether.
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It's too bad the link in the OP was to an advocacy hit piece. Phrases like "gutted a bill" don't really tell you anything about what was done. Does anyone have an objective overview of what was done and the reasons discussed in congress by those that voted for it instead of against it?
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-moves-to-slash-powers-of-ethics-watchdog/ar-BBxPrgr?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Yep, the Republicans are severely limiting independent ethic oversight going forward, because hey, what better way to show that you aren't corrupt, than by gutting the very agency that investigates corruption. More of the same from those on the far Right, they claim they want to drain the swamp, apparently they think that means to make corruption easier.


Taking the anime community seriously is gonna get a lot more difficult if they keep posting borderline braindead shit like this
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Xxanthar wrote:

Expect a lot of liberal biased groups, committees, agencies to vanish into the night come Jan 20th. It's called losing an election. Enjoy.


Instead, they'll be replaced with conservative biased groups, committees, and agencies that do exactly the same thing but in political opposition.
That's not draining the swamp, that's just changing the smell of it.
The gurgling will just be what the GOP will be doing when the conservatives that are hoping for a "corruption-free government" under Trump proves to be just another tall tale that never happens (never upset a conservative with hope, they lose all sight - just like an extreme liberal).

I laugh at the conservative tears when they're trying to bank on the same type of false hope that the Democrats had for Obama. Two sides of the same coin.



If Conservatives cry after they get their candidate, I don't even wanna know how you libtards woulda handled Hillary winning (assuming she could in the first place.)
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Trump fucking snapped his fingers and GOP backed off. Not gonna lie, this nigga is a boss. Lol
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If Conservatives cry after they get their candidate, I don't even wanna know how you libtards woulda handled Hillary winning (assuming she could in the first place.)


Oh, I'm not a liberal (well, I don't align with either Republicans or Democrats).
But conservatives whine/cry about their ongoing struggle against how liberals/Democrats perceive them and their candidates. Unfortunately, both sides whine like children whenever something doesn't go their way. Just like you calling me a "libtard" - as it feels more like you're whining that I have an opinion that is in direct juxtaposition to your own, thus I "must" be a liberal. The tears, so tasty (as Xxanthar would say).

As for Hillary, I think most of her supporters would have felt "safe" that Trump didn't win. Though, Trump supporters would have cried foul and function much like how the liberals/Democrats are nowadays. My point is - both sides whine, win or lose.

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ninjitsuko wrote:


FargothKYS wrote:

If Conservatives cry after they get their candidate, I don't even wanna know how you libtards woulda handled Hillary winning (assuming she could in the first place.)


Oh, I'm not a liberal (well, I don't align with either Republicans or Democrats).
But conservatives whine/cry about their ongoing struggle against how liberals/Democrats perceive them and their candidates. Unfortunately, both sides whine like children whenever something doesn't go their way. Just like you calling me a "libtard" - as it feels more like you're whining that I have an opinion that is in direct juxtaposition to your own, thus I "must" be a liberal. The tears, so tasty (as Xxanthar would say).

As for Hillary, I think most of her supporters would have felt "safe" that Trump didn't win. Though, Trump supporters would have cried foul and function much like how the liberals/Democrats are nowadays. My point is - both sides whine, win or lose.



Combine that with a good old Martyrdom = talent signature at the bottom of your post, and what we have here, ladies and gents, is an ISIS apologist.
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FargothKYS wrote:

Combine that with a good old Martyrdom = talent signature at the bottom of your post, and what we have here, ladies and gents, is an ISIS apologist.


Please cut this out. Nobody here is being an "ISIS apologist" in fact ISIS doesn't even have anything to do with the conversation. Your wild accusations are way off base and extremely rude.
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