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Posted 1/3/17
The next 4 years are going to be some Grade-A entertainment.
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Combine that with a good old Martyrdom = talent signature at the bottom of your post, and what we have here, ladies and gents, is an ISIS apologist.


You should probably look up the quote I have for my signature.
I'll even do you a solid and tell you that it came from Arthur Schopenhauer. He was a philosopher who had rather conservative/libertarian ideals (limited government interaction and follow the "leave each man free to work out his own salvation" line of thinking).

The quotation itself was Schopenhauer's view on how people who rely on martyrdom to become famous in a mocking way. My usage of it should be quite self-explanatory at this point if you actually review my comments. But seeing as you've misread it, as you assume that it meant that "martyrdom = talent", I doubt you really care to understand.

Needless to say, I'm not an "ISIS apologist". But, hey, if you want to think that - you're more than free and welcomed to believe so (just that you'd be horribly incorrect). I'm not offended by your accusations because they're baseless and nonsensical. You have fun in whatever realm of reality you're choosing to see today; whether it be absurd or otherwise.
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The next 4 years are going to be some Grade-A entertainment.


Oh absolutely. 100%

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Finally they will be tackling real issues, like fighting with the liberals.
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ninjitsuko wrote:
As for Hillary, I think most of her supporters would have felt "safe" that Trump didn't win. Though, Trump supporters would have cried foul and function much like how the liberals/Democrats are nowadays. My point is - both sides whine, win or lose.


No side has ever actually had a president themselves doing the whining on the internet though. This is uncharted territory.



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even Trump himself, the most villainous Republican according to WP, CNN, NY Times and HuffingtonPost, the one who's supposed to bring the Armageddon to the US, criticized the move by the GOP saying it should not have been done, and that they should focus on important things instead. he called the ethics committee "unfair", but he was against removing it altogether.


Conway was out defending it before Trump tweeted later and the GOP leadership wasn't that hot on the idea optics wise. I'm guessing Trump got enough phone calls from big enough names to register that this might not look good.

Granted, a split between Trump and House Republicans on day one doesn't look good to begin with. There's a split already between corporate/business oriented Republicans and social/bible thumper Republicans. The former will be on board for all of Trump's swamp creature fuckery. The latter are getting a wake up call that Trump was just pitching them lines during his campaign for votes. Much like he did with everything else. -.-

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-moves-to-slash-powers-of-ethics-watchdog/ar-BBxPrgr?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

Yep, the Republicans are severely limiting independent ethic oversight going forward, because hey, what better way to show that you aren't corrupt, than by gutting the very agency that investigates corruption. More of the same from those on the far Right, they claim they want to drain the swamp, apparently they think that means to make corruption easier.


You realize we have the same old people until January 20th? Right now everything is under Obama's watch.
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Conway was out defending it before Trump tweeted later and the GOP leadership wasn't that hot on the idea optics wise. I'm guessing Trump got enough phone calls from big enough names to register that this might not look good.

Granted, a split between Trump and House Republicans on day one doesn't look good to begin with. There's a split already between corporate/business oriented Republicans and social/bible thumper Republicans. The former will be on board for all of Trump's swamp creature fuckery. The latter are getting a wake up call that Trump was just pitching them lines during his campaign for votes. Much like he did with everything else. -.-

>Trump got enough phone calls from big enough names
this is Trump we're talking about right..? the one who seemingly doesn't care what he says to the media
(his PR had to try and cover over some embarrassing tweets more than once)

>a split between Trump and House Republicans
we already knew Trump and the GOP didn't work well together since the beginning of the elections, so this isn't surprising either.

also, kudos for somehow turning something remotely positive (Trump being against the decision by the house republicans and ultimately causing them to back off their plans) into something negatives. i'm impressed!
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runec wrote:


ninjitsuko wrote:
As for Hillary, I think most of her supporters would have felt "safe" that Trump didn't win. Though, Trump supporters would have cried foul and function much like how the liberals/Democrats are nowadays. My point is - both sides whine, win or lose.


No side has ever actually had a president themselves doing the whining on the internet though. This is uncharted territory.



namealreadytaken wrote:
even Trump himself, the most villainous Republican according to WP, CNN, NY Times and HuffingtonPost, the one who's supposed to bring the Armageddon to the US, criticized the move by the GOP saying it should not have been done, and that they should focus on important things instead. he called the ethics committee "unfair", but he was against removing it altogether.


Conway was out defending it before Trump tweeted later and the GOP leadership wasn't that hot on the idea optics wise. I'm guessing Trump got enough phone calls from big enough names to register that this might not look good.

Granted, a split between Trump and House Republicans on day one doesn't look good to begin with. There's a split already between corporate/business oriented Republicans and social/bible thumper Republicans. The former will be on board for all of Trump's swamp creature fuckery. The latter are getting a wake up call that Trump was just pitching them lines during his campaign for votes. Much like he did with everything else. -.-



The GOP establishment for the most part hates Trump so this isn't surprising, heck the Republican base hates the Republican establishment.

Well it seems he's got McConnell (gave his wife a cabinet post) and Schumer (sucking up to him since he won the election) in his pocket so any real opposition he is going to face is going to keep coming from House leadership, both with Ryan and Pelosi, should be entertaining at least *grabs popcorn*
Posted 1/3/17
A dumb idea is a dumb idea. Don't put too much faith in the notion of random folks arbitrarily defending something simply because it's supposedly a "republican" thing, much less, expect crowds to line up and salivate at the opportunity to comment on this thread. We've had numerous complaints floating about against CR's forums being constantly riddled with USA politics. We've had so much Christmas cookies thrown at us that quite a few are plain sick of them, and are reaching for hotdogs, instead. Side note; I really am tired of literal cookies right now... Bleh...
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The GOP establishment for the most part hates Trump so this isn't surprising, heck the Republican base hates the Republican establishment.

Well it seems he's got McConnell (gave his wife a cabinet post) and Schumer (sucking up to him since he won the election) in his pocket so any real opposition he is going to face is going to keep coming from House leadership, both with Ryan and Pelosi, should be entertaining at least *grabs popcorn*


Yeah, a civil war has been stewing there for a while. Trump spent half of the latter part of his campaign attacking his own party leadership. Now he's turned the hawks in the old guard against him by attacking the CIA and dismissing a national security issue. He's losing the hard liners after backing away from big pieces of his campaign like hanging Hillary, building a wall or setting up Muslim registries.

We'll see what happens with the social conservatives after he gets into office. He's mainly just been giving them lip service so far. Its hard to tell if he'll actually follow through with any of promises to them or not. It seems unlikely as Trump himself has never been a social conservative.
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kevz_210 wrote:
The GOP establishment for the most part hates Trump so this isn't surprising, heck the Republican base hates the Republican establishment.

Well it seems he's got McConnell (gave his wife a cabinet post) and Schumer (sucking up to him since he won the election) in his pocket so any real opposition he is going to face is going to keep coming from House leadership, both with Ryan and Pelosi, should be entertaining at least *grabs popcorn*


Yeah, a civil war has been stewing there for a while. Trump spent half of the latter part of his campaign attacking his own party leadership. Now he's turned the hawks in the old guard against him by attacking the CIA and dismissing a national security issue. He's losing the hard liners after backing away from big pieces of his campaign like hanging Hillary, building a wall or setting up Muslim registries.

We'll see what happens with the social conservatives after he gets into office. He's mainly just been giving them lip service so far. Its hard to tell if he'll actually follow through with any of promises to them or not. It seems unlikely as Trump himself has never been a social conservative.


True, I highly doubt it either. That being said even if Trump does nothing for them, the argument could still be made he was slightly to the right of Clinton (in rhetoric and court picks if nothing else) so maybe it won't matter. Who knows.

Should be interesting with regards to the hawks, although the general public (including many Republicans) see the $20 trillion in debt over our heads which may sway voters away from them.
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From what I caught on the news last night (after getting home with my girlfriend after her surgery to remove her lenses from her eye...) The general impression I got was that of a bunch of monkeys trying to f*ck a football. Apparently a few unnamed senators tried to draft a piece of legislation without the knowledge of the speaker of the house or the senate majority leader's permission. And then trump sent off one of his knee jerk twitter posts opposing it or some such bs. Whatever. This is a non issue. Let's see what actually comes to the floor for a vote. If most reporters actually paid attention to their 8th grade civics classes they would know a lot of bull s*it gets passed in non power committees, and then is strangled at birth before it comes to a vote. SMH, and these are the "educated" elete?

This is the usual a** fart smoke that small time senators and congressmen sh*t in commitee knowing it will go nowhere to appease local votors and donors. "See I vototed for this".

I almost think, "why is this a CBS headline and not that huge snink bomb Hillary Clinton political ad " Madam Secretary" that they sunk millions into for years in a prime slot that got turd ratings?" lmao.



On a side note this is exacty why Jessie Ventura pushed for a unicameral system in Minnesota when he was govonor.
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The latter are getting a wake up call that Trump was just pitching them lines during his campaign for votes. Much like he did with everything else. -.-



Ironically, quite a lot of Trump votes depended upon that knowledge.

http://time.com/4259372/donald-trump-muslim-supporters/


To fix this country, Trump does need to step back a bit from extreme language, Alkadri says, adding he does not believe Trump means the inflammatory things he says, and that he is simply pandering for votes: “American fanatics like to hear him talk in extremes; he’s a hero to them. But it’s just a little bit of entertainment and fascination.”
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I know something about this but I do not know whether Trump was involved in particular. The Republicans create economic sanction against anime imports into America and allow free streaming of anime online to prevent profit from illegal anime import. They further conduct extensive white-collar hacking in Google+ and Facebook to takeover anime communities and embrace the very weeboo stereotype that the Republican, themselves, are criticizing.
The Republicans are using taxpayer money to fund MyAnimeList so MyAnimeList can out-compete other anime social media, be a representation of the anime communities, and establish a negative image of anime. In MyAnimeList, the Republicans make up lies about a group and stir up conflicts for amusement. A Republicans leak out the secret government funding of MyAnimeList in July 2016 when he desperately tried to stop sinoakayumi of MyAnimeList from clarifying the lies and resolving the conflicts. He eventually get the moderator to permanently ban sinoakayumi from MyAnimeList to protect his very fragile ego from the scary truth. I now wonder whether the banned status on my account in MyAnimeList is going to be lifted now that the 2016 election is over and I can no longer present scary ideas to stop the Republicans from winning the election...
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kevz_210 wrote:
True, I highly doubt it either. That being said even if Trump does nothing for them, the argument could still be made he was slightly to the right of Clinton (in rhetoric and court picks if nothing else) so maybe it won't matter. Who knows.

Should be interesting with regards to the hawks, although the general public (including many Republicans) see the $20 trillion in debt over our heads which may sway voters away from them.


Its hard to pinpoint Trump's political positions ( not that that's new ) given that he's essentially a self centered populist. He's been a democrat, a republican and an independent. He does what's best for himself and/or what garners him the most immediate attention. He likes to put on a show and bask in the cheering. Then once the shows over he brushes off whatever he said. It will be interesting and possibly painful to see what happens when he actually discovers being president is one of the hardest jobs on the planet and he won't just be able to go around basking in pageantry.

Especially given that everything becomes a new president's fault within a month of them taking in office whether its fair or not.

I'm not sure the debt holds much sway over the voters itself. Jobs yeah and the "economy" in a general sense. But the debt is just a political red herring to be trotted out now and then to pretend you're doing something beneficial for the country. If people had enough interest in the economy to understand the debt instead of just the immediate effect on themselves I doubt we'd be in this mess.



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Ironically, quite a lot of Trump votes depended upon that knowledge.


No offense but I don't think the opinions of 3 voters from back in March counts for much let alone "quite a lot of Trump votes". Soooo much happened between then an election day. Especially in the final two months or so. If anything we should be waxing nostalgically about how things were only a shitshow in March instead of a full on shit parade down fuck it all street.


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