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MC is this show is such a puss need to be bitch slapped into reality can barely watch his mannerism grow some balls
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Man Tsuneki was so much wasted potential. Great girl, bad arc

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I didn't mind the ending to this arc. While its usually not that realistic for people in high school to be mature enough to overcome their hormones, it was sort of a breath of fresh air to see. Also, considering, most of the arc wasn't really all that romantic, it makes much more sense then suddenly slamming the two together in the last episode.


So what I found out is that this series is anime original, and was actually proposed/created by Amagami's head character designer who has no real experience with professionally scenario writing. It also hit me that the events in Tsuneki's arc parallel those from the Nishino portion of Ichigo 100% quite closely (getting closer together on a trip, cooking for the MC, being suspected of dating an older man at work, going to another country to study food). The difference is though that Nishino was manga long development where the romance and relationship developed over 4 years of in-universe time that allowed people to enjoy the relationship.

Tsuneki was more, she flirts with him for 3 episodes, she friendzones him on the 4th, he accepts it because he has no balls.

The Japanese reaction to the Tsuneki arc was really bad, (especially because this is somewhat a sequel to Amagami) and if they don't get at least one of the next 2 girls right, there definitely won't be a second season to show the other 3 girls planned.

This story probably would be fine if this was a manga like Fuuka or Domestic na Kanojo, but considering this is a sequel to Amagami which was a highly appraised dating sim, and this is using the same structure, this really won't sell to the target audience.



I'm well aware it was created by the character creator from Amagami. I was just putting my own opinion out there. I terms of comparing this anime ending to any of the heroine arcs in Amagami then yes this clearly seems to be for the wrong audience. I mean it certainly is implied that 5 years later some kind of romance probably unfolds for the two, but thats off screen and isn't in keeping with the "dating sim" style of Amagami SS.

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xxJing wrote:


abeltensro wrote:

I didn't mind the ending to this arc. While its usually not that realistic for people in high school to be mature enough to overcome their hormones, it was sort of a breath of fresh air to see. Also, considering, most of the arc wasn't really all that romantic, it makes much more sense then suddenly slamming the two together in the last episode.


So what I found out is that this series is anime original, and was actually proposed/created by Amagami's head character designer who has no real experience with professionally scenario writing. It also hit me that the events in Tsuneki's arc parallel those from the Nishino portion of Ichigo 100% quite closely (getting closer together on a trip, cooking for the MC, being suspected of dating an older man at work, going to another country to study food). The difference is though that Nishino was manga long development where the romance and relationship developed over 4 years of in-universe time that allowed people to enjoy the relationship.

Tsuneki was more, she flirts with him for 3 episodes, she friendzones him on the 4th, he accepts it because he has no balls.

The Japanese reaction to the Tsuneki arc was really bad, (especially because this is somewhat a sequel to Amagami) and if they don't get at least one of the next 2 girls right, there definitely won't be a second season to show the other 3 girls planned.

This story probably would be fine if this was a manga like Fuuka or Domestic na Kanojo, but considering this is a sequel to Amagami which was a highly appraised dating sim, and this is using the same structure, this really won't sell to the target audience.



I'm well aware it was created by the character creator from Amagami. I was just putting my own opinion out there. I terms of comparing this anime ending to any of the heroine arcs in Amagami then yes this clearly seems to be for the wrong audience. I mean it certainly is implied that 5 years later some kind of romance probably unfolds for the two, but thats off screen and isn't in keeping with the "dating sim" style of Amagami SS.



Well, I just hope that the next girl goes with a more Amagami-style romance and that Tsuneki is the Rihoko of this series. We can't forget that Rihoko's story was pretty shit too.

So far, from the girls that have been introduced, his sister is really the only one I like lol. I'd say she is as good as Mia was in Amagami, so there is hope.
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abeltensro wrote:


xxJing wrote:


abeltensro wrote:

I didn't mind the ending to this arc. While its usually not that realistic for people in high school to be mature enough to overcome their hormones, it was sort of a breath of fresh air to see. Also, considering, most of the arc wasn't really all that romantic, it makes much more sense then suddenly slamming the two together in the last episode.


So what I found out is that this series is anime original, and was actually proposed/created by Amagami's head character designer who has no real experience with professionally scenario writing. It also hit me that the events in Tsuneki's arc parallel those from the Nishino portion of Ichigo 100% quite closely (getting closer together on a trip, cooking for the MC, being suspected of dating an older man at work, going to another country to study food). The difference is though that Nishino was manga long development where the romance and relationship developed over 4 years of in-universe time that allowed people to enjoy the relationship.

Tsuneki was more, she flirts with him for 3 episodes, she friendzones him on the 4th, he accepts it because he has no balls.

The Japanese reaction to the Tsuneki arc was really bad, (especially because this is somewhat a sequel to Amagami) and if they don't get at least one of the next 2 girls right, there definitely won't be a second season to show the other 3 girls planned.

This story probably would be fine if this was a manga like Fuuka or Domestic na Kanojo, but considering this is a sequel to Amagami which was a highly appraised dating sim, and this is using the same structure, this really won't sell to the target audience.



I'm well aware it was created by the character creator from Amagami. I was just putting my own opinion out there. I terms of comparing this anime ending to any of the heroine arcs in Amagami then yes this clearly seems to be for the wrong audience. I mean it certainly is implied that 5 years later some kind of romance probably unfolds for the two, but thats off screen and isn't in keeping with the "dating sim" style of Amagami SS.



Well, I just hope that the next girl goes with a more Amagami-style romance and that Tsuneki is the Rihoko of this series. We can't forget that Rihoko's story was pretty shit too.

So far, from the girls that have been introduced, his sister is really the only one I like lol. I'd say she is as good as Mia was in Amagami, so there is hope.


I felt like Tsuneki was mo re of the Morishima of the show. She wasn't older but she had the same free spirit/everyone admired her archetype that Morishima had from the original. The sister reminds me more of Ayatsuji then of Mia for whatever reason. Shes this "beauty queen"/goody two shoes that could very easily have a different side to her.

I personally hope they don't just take all of the archetypes from Amagami and reproduce them with slightly different looks and plots. That would be boring.

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Man Tsuneki was so much wasted potential.


I agree 100%
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Wow that was super underwhelming... I hope the next arcs will be better
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Man Tsuneki was so much wasted potential. Great girl, bad arc

Sex hair Toru will save Seiren



Shoichi, the pump shed is where dreams come true, and back knee fetishes are born


Some Japanese people seem to think they made this mediocre so they could save a genuinely good ending for a possible game. However, if you are banking on an anime to gather interest for a game... you really can't go around making the anime mediocre.
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Swaggercandy wrote:

Man Tsuneki was so much wasted potential. Great girl, bad arc

Sex hair Toru will save Seiren



Shoichi, the pump shed is where dreams come true, and back knee fetishes are born


Some Japanese people seem to think they made this mediocre so they could save a genuinely good ending for a possible game. However, if you are banking on an anime to gather interest for a game... you really can't go around making the anime mediocre.

I think they made the first section in the omnibus with Tsuneki end like that so it doesn't end up like Photocano where he gets the good ending in each section and it's awkward when he starts over with the next girl. This way in the 'present' he's been friend-zoned by Tsuneki (only to return 5 years later for a possible good ending). He can then start with the next girl without needing a time reset? Not sure.

Does make me wonder though as there are 6 girls. Will the last girl get a good ending this season? Are they planning another cour or are the other 3 girls game-only?

The ending was kind of weak but it did have some logic to it so it didn't bother me too much. A well... onto character #2...

Photocano for me was ruined when he got my favorite girl. I stopped watching the series after that as I had no interest in other girls. I'm bad for that, I buy VNs but then often stop playing them after I get the ending I want. Waste of money I guess but retreading the stories over and over to get all the endings always makes me put the games aside for weeks, months or forever.
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xxJing wrote:


Swaggercandy wrote:

Man Tsuneki was so much wasted potential. Great girl, bad arc

Sex hair Toru will save Seiren



Shoichi, the pump shed is where dreams come true, and back knee fetishes are born


Some Japanese people seem to think they made this mediocre so they could save a genuinely good ending for a possible game. However, if you are banking on an anime to gather interest for a game... you really can't go around making the anime mediocre.

I think they made the first section in the omnibus with Tsuneki end like that so it doesn't end up like Photocano where he gets the good ending in each section and it's awkward when he starts over with the next girl. This way in the 'present' he's been friend-zoned by Tsuneki (only to return 5 years later for a possible good ending). He can then start with the next girl without needing a time reset? Not sure.

Does make me wonder though as there are 6 girls. Will the last girl get a good ending this season? Are they planning another cour or are the other 3 girls game-only?

The ending was kind of weak but it did have some logic to it so it didn't bother me too much. A well... onto character #2...

Photocano for me was ruined when he got my favorite girl. I stopped watching the series after that as I had no interest in other girls. I'm bad for that, I buy VNs but then often stop playing them after I get the ending I want. Waste of money I guess but retreading the stories over and over to get all the endings always makes me put the games aside for weeks, months or forever.


But the point of these types of anime is to show all endings. What they did was just tease (badly) one of the routes and then show the future like they did in Amagami. Even if he is friend-zoned in the present time, in the future they meet again; so it's still awkward if it's a continued timeline. Imo it was just poor writing and a "surprise" ending, compared to Amagami's, that didn't work very well.
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hpulley wrote:


xxJing wrote:


Swaggercandy wrote:

Man Tsuneki was so much wasted potential. Great girl, bad arc

Sex hair Toru will save Seiren



Shoichi, the pump shed is where dreams come true, and back knee fetishes are born


Some Japanese people seem to think they made this mediocre so they could save a genuinely good ending for a possible game. However, if you are banking on an anime to gather interest for a game... you really can't go around making the anime mediocre.

I think they made the first section in the omnibus with Tsuneki end like that so it doesn't end up like Photocano where he gets the good ending in each section and it's awkward when he starts over with the next girl. This way in the 'present' he's been friend-zoned by Tsuneki (only to return 5 years later for a possible good ending). He can then start with the next girl without needing a time reset? Not sure.

Does make me wonder though as there are 6 girls. Will the last girl get a good ending this season? Are they planning another cour or are the other 3 girls game-only?

The ending was kind of weak but it did have some logic to it so it didn't bother me too much. A well... onto character #2...

Photocano for me was ruined when he got my favorite girl. I stopped watching the series after that as I had no interest in other girls. I'm bad for that, I buy VNs but then often stop playing them after I get the ending I want. Waste of money I guess but retreading the stories over and over to get all the endings always makes me put the games aside for weeks, months or forever.


But the point of these types of anime is to show all endings. What they did was just tease (badly) one of the routes and then show the future like they did in Amagami. Even if he is friend-zoned in the present time, in the future they meet again; so it's still awkward if it's a continued timeline. Imo it was just poor writing and a "surprise" ending, compared to Amagami's, that didn't work very well.

I never saw Amagami but I heard it was similar.

Yes, I suppose your right, it's awkward either way. Ah well.... I was enjoying this. Guess I'll see if the second arc works for me.
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I never saw Amagami but I heard it was similar.

Yes, I suppose your right, it's awkward either way. Ah well.... I was enjoying this. Guess I'll see if the second arc works for me.


As far as universe goes, this takes place 9 years after Amagami.

Amagami was pretty much the same thing, except every girl in Amagami got a full on good romance route (aside for Rihoko, she kind of friend zones herself in her arc, no clue why they went through with that. They fixed it in the second season though).

In Amagami it's pretty much, a girl runs into a couple of problems, the main character helps her solve them, that pushes them together, they become a couple. The problems solved and how they are solved, add to that the girls' personalities are very unique though, so it is fun to watch.

Like the closest girl to Tsuneki in Amagami, I'd say is probably Kaoru. She loves to tease the main character, the difference is though, while Tsuneki was some popular girl who just loved to tease him because he was a pushover. Kaoru was basically one of his best friends that he hung out with constantly.

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hpulley wrote:

I never saw Amagami but I heard it was similar.

Yes, I suppose your right, it's awkward either way. Ah well.... I was enjoying this. Guess I'll see if the second arc works for me.


As far as universe goes, this takes place 9 years after Amagami.

Amagami was pretty much the same thing, except every girl in Amagami got a full on good romance route (aside for Rihoko, she kind of friend zones herself in her arc, no clue why they went through with that. They fixed it in the second season though).

In Amagami it's pretty much, a girl runs into a couple of problems, the main character helps her solve them, that pushes them together, they become a couple. The problems solved and how they are solved, add to that the girls' personalities are very unique though, so it is fun to watch.

Like the closest girl to Tsuneki in Amagami, I'd say is probably Kaoru. She loves to tease the main character, the difference is though, while Tsuneki was some popular girl who just loved to tease him because he was a pushover. Kaoru was basically one of his best friends that he hung out with constantly. ...

Sounds good! And I noticed that ANO/TAN still has it and I'm a subscriber there so I will add it to When they Cry and Hidamari Sketch that I need to finish there. So much anime, only so much time with all the simulcasts I watch, sigh...

Edit: hmm, it seems I dropped Amagami SS after episode 4. Mal doesn't say when I dropped it, must have been years ago as I don't remember watching it. Perhaps I'll like it better this time or perhaps not. It's possible I was just shocked by the omnibus format and said forget it.

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Just rewatched episode 3 of Amagami, LOL... _Now_ I know what you're talking about. How could I forget that scene? As I said, I think the fact that it wasn't the same girl in episode 5 threw me for a loop. It was the first omnibus anime adaptation of a VN I guess and I wasn't prepared at the time.


Edit edit edit: and Kaoru's arc was so good! What I was missing all these years... so much anime to watch.8 episodes of Amagami done, 31 to go including SS+? Wow.
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Edit edit edit: and Kaoru's arc was so good! What I was missing all these years... so much anime to watch.8 episodes of Amagami done, 31 to go including SS+? Wow.


I must admit not all the girls clicked with me. However the 3 that I enjoyed a lot were Kaoru, Nanasaki, and Ayatsuji. Haruka is a fan favorite, and the antics with her were cingefully delightful, but for some reason I just wasn't attracted to her.
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xxJing wrote:


hpulley wrote:



Edit edit edit: and Kaoru's arc was so good! What I was missing all these years... so much anime to watch.8 episodes of Amagami done, 31 to go including SS+? Wow.


I must admit not all the girls clicked with me. However the 3 that I enjoyed a lot were Kaoru, Nanasaki, and Ayatsuji. Haruka is a fan favorite, and the antics with her were cingefully delightful, but for some reason I just wasn't attracted to her.

I've only seen the first 3 but Kaoru is my favorite so far. She seemed to transform before my eyes from a tomboy childhood friend to a romantic partner. It worked really well, as did her single Mom getting remarried angst subplot. They really seemed meant for each other much moreso that the other two I've seen so far.

Kaoru just seemed so much more realistic and believable than the "prettiest girl at school" fan favorite Haruka or the well endowed but shy underclassman and master seamstress Nakata. Now, Haruka is legendary for the pump shed fantasies so she's unforgettable but her story felt quite contrived compared to Kaoru's. I'm not sure how long I'll remember Nakata's story once I finish the rest of them; she's really cute and shy but them loving each other forever at the end didn't feel real.

I hope Seiren gives us some better stories. I enjoyed the first one but it now seems a bit pale compared to the first 3 arcs of Amagami SS. The salty underwater kiss and a few other scenes were memorable but otherwise it doesn't seem quite as good.

Edit: Nanasaki was good too. As soon as I saw the tan lines I knew what was up...

Edit edit: Rihoko's was just sad.

Edit edit edit: Rihoko... finally in SS+...
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