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Loved this first episode, it really threw you into the thick of it!
I suppose they want Tanya and the world to be shrouded in mystery for now, i guess they'll show what the deal is next week.

The animation was great and i think the character designs look good too. They definitely made Tanya more cutesy but they can make her pretty scary when they want to,it kinda reminds of Higurashi.

I can already tell this show is gonna be favourite of mine,it's gonna be difficult waiting for new episodes.
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Evil lolis fighting wars? Hell yeah I'm in! The animation is great too.
Looks like this time we'll see the war from the "Empire"'s point of view, although the end is as predictable as ever (hopefully not).
Also 10/10 strategy right there...whoever designed that plan was clearly an enemy spy or someone in primary school.

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Bakaneer wrote:

Episode 1 is now on CR: http://www.crunchyroll.com/saga-of-tanya-the-evil/episode-1-the-devil-of-the-rhine-727459

Episode 1

And it begins right in the middle of a battle with Tanya showing those enemies not to mess with her. I see this as a spiritual successor to Izetta, except that the story is told from the enemy's side as it is about the Germans spreading their terror rather than the Allies trying to stop it in a WWII-esque setting. Anyway, that was quite a spell there by Tanya as she's such a powerful and terrifying magician. Tanya and Visha sure do get along seeing that those girls looks out of place being with an an army full of grown men. So far, not much has been given out as it was mostly about that battle, all while there's a war going on.



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Damn. This show not going to hold back is it? War is defiantly hell.

War broken out and totally not Germany is invading other counties and is not doing so well. We meed one mage Tanya and she a freaking psychopath!

Good impress first eps. Not sure I want to root for her but i'll keep watching.

I expect shojo eyes to die in a few eps.



Actually in Y.S. the german didn't invade nor spread the terror. They're the one being attacked and defending.


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Evil lolis fighting wars? Hell yeah I'm in! The animation is great too.
Looks like this time we'll see the war from the "Empire"'s point of view, although the end is as predictable as ever (hopefully not).
Also 10/10 strategy right there...whoever designed that plan was clearly an enemy spy or someone in primary school.



That's actually a logical way to deal with such situation ImO, but surely you have a better way to deal with enemies on all sides than that.
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An4thor wrote:

Evil lolis fighting wars? Hell yeah I'm in! The animation is great too.
Looks like this time we'll see the war from the "Empire"'s point of view, although the end is as predictable as ever (hopefully not).
Also 10/10 strategy right there...whoever designed that plan was clearly an enemy spy or someone in primary school.



That's actually a logical way to deal with such situation ImO, but surely you have a better way to deal with enemies on all sides than that.


Imo it's not, having the mobile unit move on all fronts in order to advance on all of them at the same time it's silly; you only weaken it by making them take unnecessarily long trips, can't even take a breather. I would kick the enemies from the Denmark region asap and fight in the sea with the navy then re-position the army in the west to take care of the "Republic" before reinforcements arrive from Britain then focus on the east.
Then again they didn't even expect the "Republic" to join the war. I mean why wouldn't they, it's the perfect chance to fight vs the "Empire" when they are focused on other fronts Xd.

Not criticizing the anime for this premise, just found it funny since I like strategy war games
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Zefyris- wrote:


An4thor wrote:

Evil lolis fighting wars? Hell yeah I'm in! The animation is great too.
Looks like this time we'll see the war from the "Empire"'s point of view, although the end is as predictable as ever (hopefully not).
Also 10/10 strategy right there...whoever designed that plan was clearly an enemy spy or someone in primary school.



That's actually a logical way to deal with such situation ImO, but surely you have a better way to deal with enemies on all sides than that.


Imo it's not, having the mobile unit move on all fronts in order to advance on all of them at the same time it's silly; you only weaken it by making them take unnecessarily long trips, can't even take a breather. I would kick the enemies from the Denmark region asap and fight in the sea with the navy then re-position the army in the west to take care of the "Republic" before reinforcements arrive from Britain then focus on the east.
Then again they didn't even expect the "Republic" to join the war. I mean why wouldn't they, it's the perfect chance to fight vs the "Empire" when they are focused on other fronts Xd.

Not criticizing the anime for this premise, just found it funny since I like strategy war games :P


Little did you know, the current situation on the Rhine frontline is due to doing exactly what you suggested. IE, it didn't work and for a good reason. Having so much troops being stuck in the northern region from so long will only have any other frontline try harder to get the kill before those troops are finished. So you'll have to pull out those northern front troops without being able to finish the job in order to save the Rhine line, but it will results in many casualties in both lines due to that mistake.
A war doesn't go the way you expect, and especially not conquering another country completely. They discarded their initial plan for what you suggested because that seemed right on the moment to quickly get rid of that front. Did go well at first, but then, oh boy.

It's not that they didn't expect the french republic to join war. It's that the reports were saying that they were still not mobilizing. The reports were shown to be wrong, and they paid a heavy price for this.

Also, the point wasn't to send everything on each front successively, but to keep flexibility, so the tiredness of trip isn't really relevant here. Especially since fighting on the frontline is more tiring than a trip in a train anyway.
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Flying war magics better with Psycho loli than Izetta.
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Episode 1

A sadistic loli who kills her followers...yeah.

It was an okay start. There's a lot of war and suffering, but nothing more than that. Might drop or stay; not sure..

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I think a better title is
My military dictator can't be this cute
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Zefyris- wrote:

Little did you know, the current situation on the Rhine frontline is due to doing exactly what you suggested. IE, it didn't work and for a good reason. Having so much troops being stuck in the northern region from so long will only have any other frontline try harder to get the kill before those troops are finished. So you'll have to pull out those northern front troops without being able to finish the job in order to save the Rhine line, but it will results in many casualties in both lines due to that mistake.
A war doesn't go the way you expect, and especially not conquering another country completely. They discarded their initial plan for what you suggested because that seemed right on the moment to quickly get rid of that front. Did go well at first, but then, oh boy.

It's not that they didn't expect the french republic to join war. It's that the reports were saying that they were still not mobilizing. The reports were shown to be wrong, and they paid a heavy price for this.

Also, the point wasn't to send everything on each front successively, but to keep flexibility, so the tiredness of trip isn't really relevant here. Especially since fighting on the frontline is more tiring than a trip in a train anyway.


I wouldn't say the mobile unit redeployment all over the continent is irrelevant in their performance, even if they sleep all the time you are moving from a theater to another with different situations and strategies going on; adapt to that, the enemy composition and possible terrain unfamiliarity. There is a lot to take in rather than just join the fight as soon as you get there.
Even if they weren't tired at all after that movement and adjustment there is the attrition to consider. Your troops are suffering attrition on all fronts at the same time and all you are doing, by using the mobile unit, is stall for time unless you focus on one side and take care of it fully.
Might be that what they are doing now is a logical idea; but winning is impossible. The enemy is pressuring them from all sides; it's just a matter of time (like the irl version).
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Episode 1

A sadistic loli who kills her followers...yeah.

It was an okay start. There's a lot of war and suffering, but nothing more than that. Might drop or stay; not sure..



sums it up.

Japs and their Quasi-Nazis, lets goo
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But what about the Treaty of Worms?
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Keep in mind that plan 315 is a defensive plan. The Empire is not the agressor in this. 315 is a plan for "how do we hold off 5 enemy nations who might attack at any time?"

Prior to this point in the story only 1 of those nations had acted. A change in political leadership in the South-Eastern nation lead to saber rattling and an attempted invasion which the Empire pushed back.

The Republic tried to capitalize on that and started their own attack from the North East before the Empire could fully recover. The higher ups in the Empire decided they wanted to make an example of the Republic and tried to push forward instead of holding the line, hense the current situation. The remaining three border nations have yet to take action.

Basically things are bad now because they didn't stick to the plan
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Keep in mind that plan 315 is a defensive plan. The Empire is not the agressor in this. 315 is a plan for "how do we hold off 5 enemy nations who might attack at any time?"

Prior to this point in the story only 1 of those nations had acted. A change in political leadership in the South-Eastern nation lead to saber rattling and an attempted invasion which the Empire pushed back.

The Republic tried to capitalize on that and started their own attack from the North East before the Empire could fully recover. The higher ups in the Empire decided they wanted to make an example of the Republic and tried to push forward instead of holding the line, hense the current situation. The remaining three border nations have yet to take action.

Basically things are bad now because they didn't stick to the plan


Ok that makes a lot more sense now; I thought the Empire was the one starting so the plan looked weird to me. WWII, Izetta etc..every setting is getting mixed up in my head.
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Interesting thing is we are getting our introduction from all those around Tanya and not the adorable evil one herself.

This is how others see her and react to her.

Probably next episode we will learn her actual history which is well.... she hinted at it in today's episode (and of course it's in the description of the show) but the details of how things happened and her relationship with God to whom she prays are quite .... different.
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JuJu26 wrote:

Episode 1

A sadistic loli who kills her followers...yeah.

It was an okay start. There's a lot of war and suffering, but nothing more than that. Might drop or stay; not sure..



sums it up.

Japs and their Quasi-Nazis, lets goo


since when are germans quasi nazis just because they're germans? Do you have any idea of what you're suggesting right now? This isn't nazi in any way.



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Greylurker wrote:

Keep in mind that plan 315 is a defensive plan. The Empire is not the agressor in this. 315 is a plan for "how do we hold off 5 enemy nations who might attack at any time?"

Prior to this point in the story only 1 of those nations had acted. A change in political leadership in the South-Eastern nation lead to saber rattling and an attempted invasion which the Empire pushed back.

The Republic tried to capitalize on that and started their own attack from the North East before the Empire could fully recover. The higher ups in the Empire decided they wanted to make an example of the Republic and tried to push forward instead of holding the line, hense the current situation. The remaining three border nations have yet to take action.

Basically things are bad now because they didn't stick to the plan


Ok that makes a lot more sense now; I thought the Empire was the one starting so the plan looked weird to me. WWII, Izetta etc..every setting is getting mixed up in my head.


Aaaah ok, you were thinking that was for offensive strategy, then yes that would be stupid indeed. This is a plan made to counter the worst case scenario in defence (as the Empire has no project of expending their territory and simply warry of the various alliance going on around them, that could lead to being attacked from various fronts at the same time, and that plan was supposed to be dealing with that threat). If you look at the moment they show the plan, the troops from the german side don't actually go inside the enemy territory, they push back the enem ytroops and then move on to assist another front. That's a 100% defensive position.
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