How do you feel about this? (submarine reef)
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Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/10/17
A submarine that was commissioned in 1945, the last surviving GUPPY class submarine, USS Clamagore could be sunk as a reef here in Florida. It was / is a museum ship at Patriot's Point, South Carolina. My honest opinion is that this would be considered destroying a piece of history, but I want to hear your thoughts. (I've seen this submarine in person, so it's something special to me.)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-palm-submarine-reef-20170103-story.html
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Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/10/17
They should do what we do with the submarine we have in Portsmouth, simply take it out the water.

Destroying a piece of history is never really acceptable in my eyes. you can easily decommission some fishing boats if you really want an artificial reef.
Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/10/17
Save the submarine and dump a few cargo containers or something in the water to create a reef.
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Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/12/17
Coral reefs are dying off all over world. I say let the fish have it; they could really use it.
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Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/11/17
hmmm i didn't realize this was a big deal

i've seen it many times (native south carolinian) ... better go check it out before they decide something cay032692 next trip
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Increase taxes to sink the last GUPPY boat offshore then tax again to import sand from the Bahamas that'll cover it up the next big storm. Just grand.

By the way, there are already submarine contributions in the area...the "artificial reefs" that the German government "donated" in the 1940s.



http://pbchistory.blogspot.com/2015/11/battle-of-atlantic-comes-to-palm-beach.html
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Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/11/17
I'm glad to see, with the few comments, how many approve of saving it.
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Posted 1/10/17 , edited 1/11/17
We have nuked enough reefs.

If they want to sink it, let them. It is better than nothing.
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Well, this is certainly depressing news. If it happens, Rest in Piece, Clamagore.
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Certainly it's a "piece of history," but I'm not so certain I think every single thing that can be called a piece of history has to be (or can be) preserved for all time. You can put it in a museum and obviously that's worthwhile, but if you put every single ship ever made by every nation on the planet in a museum you'll eventually run out of room. On this particular matter I don't really have a strong opinion either way.

Also, how does it take a million dollars to sink a sub? I'm pretty sure I could sink it for free, if they just let me try to pilot it for about an hour.
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You know.... On the one hand, I'd say that it's a damned shame that they're gonna scuttle the boat to make a reef. However, on the other hand is what it would cost in taxes every year, to maintain the boat and operate a museum to keep the boat afloat, especially if they're not getting hundreds of thousands of visitors every year to see it - and pay for admission, buy merchandise, or donate money to help with the costs.

This is probably why they voted to scuttle the boat to make a reef. Also, reefs attract fish. And fish attract fishermen, and fishermen have to pay fees and such to be able to fish, and fishermen hire out boats to take them to the reefs to fish. Reef's (which attract fish) also attract divers. Divers like diving at reefs, because of fish. They also like swimming into and out of sunken ships.... So, maybe tourism might pick up a bit because of it. You know?
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Posted 1/11/17 , edited 1/12/17

DeadlyOats wrote:

You know.... On the one hand, I'd say that it's a damned shame that they're gonna scuttle the boat to make a reef. However, on the other hand is what it would cost in taxes every year, to maintain the boat and operate a museum to keep the boat afloat, especially if they're not getting hundreds of thousands of visitors every year to see it - and pay for admission, buy merchandise, or donate money to help with the costs


In the article the user posted, it is stated it would take 1$ million to sink the sub, which is more than it would take to take the sub out of the water, and put it in a dry dock, thus preserving it. Palm Beach county already has a 150 piece reef that is artificial. I do understand the diver part you mentioned, however, this sub is a very special one.
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