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Donald Trump Admits That Russia Meddled in Election
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Posted 1/11/17 , edited 1/11/17

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Nope. You and others like you rag on our politics (or, more accurately for many cases, your distorted perception of our politics) whether you're Canadian or not. We're not giving you any special treatment, snowflake.
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We need to give Xxanthar a quiet dark space and he'll be able to breathe again.


Make Xxanthar Breathe Again.

Should we put it on hats or something?
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It's very interesting to watch this play out.

You have no proof there was any evidence of hacking.

Okay, there was hacking, but you have no proof it was Russia.

Okay, it was Russia but so what they only hacked the DNC.




Next we'll probably find evidence of the RNC getting hacked and we'll hear another excuse. Although it's pretty obvious even if Putin had something on Donald Trump or the RNC he wouldn't release it because this is playing out exactly how he wants.


What no one says is that these places get hacking attempts 24/7. If your security isn't good your gonna get hacked eventually. Even then you need to have it layered so failure of one layer does not compromise the whole system. The RNC had tons of hack attempts as well as the DNC like they do every year. The Dems however had shitty security and a full dump of everything happened. They lost terabytes of information. Stealing terabytes of info is quite hard to do because its very noticeable if you do it remotely. I still believe Seth Rich released the information as a whistle blower then got shot in the head to silence him before he spoke to congress.


My understanding is that these were two separate leaks. One from the Russian hack and one from Seth Rich.

Either way, my point was more about showing the back-stepping that is occurring from people who are coming up with new excuses as their previous points get disproved. Although, this is not very surprising considering the amount of revisionism that has occurred from Trump and many of his fans when it comes to their stances on certain things. Notice how I did not say Republicans... because most Republicans realized this was a non-partisan issue a long time ago.

I'm curious though, do you think Russia has our best interest in mind when they do something like this? Do you think Putin is a good person with no ulterior motives?

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it is said that Russia hacked the DNC, exposing the corruption within. should we really blame Russia or the corruption of some high-ranking Democrats at DNC...? unless there's credible evidence (as in, released by an intelligence agency) that Russia tampered with actual election votes, DNC only have themselves to blame for the end result. Russia might have leaked the information, but it was the voters who decided to vote against them (by them i of course mean against Hillary)
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it is said that Russia hacked the DNC, exposing the corruption within. should we really blame Russia or the corruption of some high-ranking Democrats at DNC...? unless there's credible evidence (as in, released by an intelligence agency) that Russia tampered with actual election votes, DNC only have themselves to blame for the end result. Russia might have leaked the information, but it was the voters who decided to vote against them (by them i of course mean against Hillary)


Do you believe there is no corruption in the RNC? Do you think the RNC does not actively undermine certain candidates like Rand Paul or Jim Gilmore? I'd be highly surprised if the same sorts of things are not going on, and I think most Americans are aware things like this are going on and it's definitely a problem.

The usual argument to this is that Donald Trump won the RNC nomination even though they tried to undermine him. But Donald Trump pulled through because he's a celebrity and we live in a culture full of celebrity worship. The average American does not pay attention to politics, but I'm sure they all know who Donald Trump is and they love drama and reality TV. That's the show Donald Trump provided to them, someone who was a spectacle who told them exactly what they wanted to hear as long as he got their vote.





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Layer8 wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

it is said that Russia hacked the DNC, exposing the corruption within. should we really blame Russia or the corruption of some high-ranking Democrats at DNC...? unless there's credible evidence (as in, released by an intelligence agency) that Russia tampered with actual election votes, DNC only have themselves to blame for the end result. Russia might have leaked the information, but it was the voters who decided to vote against them (by them i of course mean against Hillary)


Do you believe there is no corruption in the RNC? Do you think the RNC does not actively undermine certain candidates like Rand Paul or Jim Gilmore? I'd be highly surprised if the same sorts of things are not going on, and I think most Americans are aware things like this are going on and it's definitely a problem.


Trust me, if the RNC or Trump were being incriminated, Trump fans wouldn't be worshiping wikileaks and their constant stream of borderline conspiracy theorist ilk, like they did prior to the election. Moment the tables turn against their bias, they'll be claiming the flipside.

Let's just face the facts, kiddos. Politics are corrupt.
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Layer8 wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

it is said that Russia hacked the DNC, exposing the corruption within. should we really blame Russia or the corruption of some high-ranking Democrats at DNC...? unless there's credible evidence (as in, released by an intelligence agency) that Russia tampered with actual election votes, DNC only have themselves to blame for the end result. Russia might have leaked the information, but it was the voters who decided to vote against them (by them i of course mean against Hillary)


Do you believe there is no corruption in the RNC? Do you think the RNC does not actively undermine certain candidates like Rand Paul or Jim Gilmore? I'd be highly surprised if the same sorts of things are not going on, and I think most Americans are aware things like this are going on and it's definitely a problem.

The usual argument to this is that Donald Trump won even though they tried to undermine him. But Donald Trump pulled through because he's a celebrity and we live in a culture full of celebrity worship. The average American does not pay attention to politics, but I'm sure they all know who Donald Trump is and they love drama and reality TV. That's the show Donald Trump provided to them, someone who was a spectacle who told them exactly what they wanted to hear as long as he got their vote.


i never said RNC wasn't corrupt (it still amuses me that despite anything that might happen at RNC, Trump still got the nomination)
i'm still in the opinion that, have Bernie won the Democratic nomination, things would have gone differently

he's a celebrity
>if by celebrity you mean a troll given more attention than deserved, you're correct >.>

>The average American does not pay attention to politics
pretty sure late night shows is fairly popular, and they were all political in nature (in favor of Hillary of course)
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Russia hacks the US, China hacks the US, the US hacks the Germans, the US hacks the Brazilians, see a pattern here?
Hold on, let me pretend to be shocked for a second like the idiots on the MSM.

Of course the Russians tried to hack us, all major world powers have been and will continue to hack each other left and right. The main thing we should be taking away from this is that the DNCs and the government's documents are not adequately secured and hopefully Congress can work across the aisle to tighten our cyber security.

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The main thing we should be taking away from this is that the DNCs and the government's documents are not adequately secured and hopefully Congress can work across the aisle to tighten our cyber security.


Attacks were conducted on both sides, though less aggressively on the GOP side. Nothing from the GOP side came out though as it would not benefit Trump. Hence some Republicans pushing for an investigation because they know their laundry could be aired out just as easily. This was confirmed by Comey and the GOP itself.

They did not hack Trump's campaign ( why would they -.- ) and they were unable to get into the RNC's current federal network ( though they got into its state networks and older email servers. ). However, as the main point of attack was spearphishing, its not really much of a matter of network security as it is personal vigilance.

Which is why Graham is worried I'm sure. The average age of congress is what? 107? They're certainly not learning how to spot phishing emails any time soon. So it falls upon bitter, underpaid interns. Podesto for instance was compromised by one of his staff who accidentally tagged a phishing email as safe instead of unsafe.

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kevz_210 wrote:
The main thing we should be taking away from this is that the DNCs and the government's documents are not adequately secured and hopefully Congress can work across the aisle to tighten our cyber security.


Attacks were conducted on both sides, though less aggressively on the GOP side. Nothing from the GOP side came out though as it would not benefit Trump. Hence some Republicans pushing for an investigation because they know their laundry could be aired out just as easily. This was confirmed by Comey and the GOP itself.

They did not hack Trump's campaign ( why would they -.- ) and they were unable to get into the RNC's current federal network ( though they got into its state networks and older email servers. ). However, as the main point of attack was spearphishing, its not really much of a matter of network security as it is personal vigilance.

Which is why Graham is worried I'm sure. The average age of congress is what? 107? They're certainly not learning how to spot phishing emails any time soon. So it falls upon bitter, underpaid interns. Podesto for instance was compromised by one of his staff who accidentally tagged a phishing email as safe instead of unsafe.



Good points. Yeah, definitely worrisome. Well with reelection rates at ridiculously high numbers most seem to have de facto life tenure so that won't be changing anytime soon.
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I hate the 400 pound hacker known as 4chins

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Yeah it was (((Russia))) who got Trump elected...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm5Je73bYOY

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Posted 1/12/17 , edited 1/12/17

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KennethKenstar wrote:

We are witnessing a strange new form of nationalism in this post that I will now coin as Daddyism

"Who cares if foreign countries molest our democratic process? We do it all the time to everyone else. Seems fair to me."

In Daddyism, nationalism only matters when it is politically convenient for Daddy Fraud. So, if Russia hacks America, it's okay if it's good for Daddy.


The Russians did America a favor, exposing how the DNC rigged their primary for Hillary, colluded with the media, and received the questions for a presidential debate in advance. Nobody except the Kool-Aid drinkers trust Democrats these days, as it should be. Trump is not in office yet and he's already exposed the Democrats as the fake, lying, fools that they are. That alone was worth electing Trump.


xanthar don't bother, some people have never heard of "don't shoot the messenger"
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Xxanthar wrote:


KennethKenstar wrote:

We are witnessing a strange new form of nationalism in this post that I will now coin as Daddyism

"Who cares if foreign countries molest our democratic process? We do it all the time to everyone else. Seems fair to me."

In Daddyism, nationalism only matters when it is politically convenient for Daddy Fraud. So, if Russia hacks America, it's okay if it's good for Daddy.


The Russians did America a favor, exposing how the DNC rigged their primary for Hillary, colluded with the media, and received the questions for a presidential debate in advance. Nobody except the Kool-Aid drinkers trust Democrats these days, as it should be. Trump is not in office yet and he's already exposed the Democrats as the fake, lying, fools that they are. That alone was worth electing Trump.


xanthar don't bother, some people have never heard of "don't shoot the messenger"


That's for young boys delivering commands from the HQ to the frontlines in a war, not for illegally accessing and releasing documents they wouldn't have without illegal and heavily suspicious (put lightly) measures.
Posted 1/12/17 , edited 1/12/17

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I hate the 400 pound hacker known as 4chins



> Lol
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