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No, that's not Canada or Quebec. Like, at all.


I know. Here in the states we like to make fun of Canada a lot.


Uh, okay.

Anyway, you don't have to speak french to visit Quebec. My father lived his whole life there until the mid to late eighties (20 years, give or take) and while he did pick up a little bit on the side he's an anglophone through and through.
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paul25454 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

No, that's not Canada or Quebec. Like, at all.


I know. Here in the states we like to make fun of Canada a lot.


Uh, okay.

Anyway, you don't have to speak french to visit Quebec. My father lived his whole life there until the mid to late eighties (20 years, give or take) and while he did pick up a little bit on the side he's an anglophone through and through.


That is good to know.
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(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ What the hell is wrong with these people. They want to get welfare so badly they mutilate themselves. Now they've gotten smart and are trying to jump on the Trans-bandwagon to stop people from criticizing them



http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies

OTTAWA — When he cut off his right arm with a “very sharp power tool,” a man who now calls himself One Hand Jason let everyone believe it was an accident.

But he had for months tried different means of cutting and crushing the limb that never quite felt like his own, training himself on first aid so he wouldn’t bleed to death, even practicing on animal parts sourced from a butcher.

“My goal was to get the job done with no hope of reconstruction or re-attachment, and I wanted some method that I could actually bring myself to do,” he told the body modification website ModBlog.

His goal was to become disabled.

People like Jason have been classified as ‘‘transabled’’ — feeling like imposters in their bodies, their arms and legs in full working order.

“We define transability as the desire or the need for a person identified as able-bodied by other people to transform his or her body to obtain a physical impairment,” says Alexandre Baril, a Quebec born academic who will present on “transability” at this week’s Congress of the Social Sciences and Humanities at the University of Ottawa.

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http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies


Hopefully he also removes his nutsack.
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Rujikin wrote:

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ What the hell is wrong with these people. They want to get welfare so badly they mutilate themselves. Now they've gotten smart and are trying to jump on the Trans-bandwagon to stop people from criticizing them



http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies

OTTAWA — When he cut off his right arm with a “very sharp power tool,” a man who now calls himself One Hand Jason let everyone believe it was an accident.

But he had for months tried different means of cutting and crushing the limb that never quite felt like his own, training himself on first aid so he wouldn’t bleed to death, even practicing on animal parts sourced from a butcher.

“My goal was to get the job done with no hope of reconstruction or re-attachment, and I wanted some method that I could actually bring myself to do,” he told the body modification website ModBlog.

His goal was to become disabled.

People like Jason have been classified as ‘‘transabled’’ — feeling like imposters in their bodies, their arms and legs in full working order.

“We define transability as the desire or the need for a person identified as able-bodied by other people to transform his or her body to obtain a physical impairment,” says Alexandre Baril, a Quebec born academic who will present on “transability” at this week’s Congress of the Social Sciences and Humanities at the University of Ottawa.

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http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/becoming-disabled-by-choice-not-chance-transabled-people-feel-like-impostors-in-their-fully-working-bodies


Hopefully he also removes his nutshack.


Fixed it for you.

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See this is what happens when we stop trying to treat mental illnesses and just makes excuses.

If a man wants to dress as a woman I won't say anything.

If a man has legit reasons to want to become a woman than I won't really agree due to how I believe gender works but I'll keep it to myself.

But what isn't okay is this notion that's been spreading where everything is based on "feelings". Oh you "feel" you are a cat in a person's body? Well I guess you are then.

Some of these people have real mental illnesses and aren't right in the head but instead of trying to help them and bring them back to reality some of them are being encouraged in their delusions.

Then there are also the opportunists like some of these people who take advantage of this mess where you can LITERALLY "Be whatever you want to do"

You know when adults used to say that they meant career. Not that you could decide your gender, species, ect. based on feeling alone.



So now we live in a world where apparently mental illnesses are perfectly okay and shoudln't be fixed or questioned because it fits into some nonsense "trans" group so suggesting they need fixing is discrimination or something.

I remember talking to a guy with autism once who tried to say he was "mental varient" or some nonsense. Basically he was trying to pretend that he didn't have a mental disability he was just part of some spectrum where his thinking was a variant from the norm and perfectly normal. Taking pride in who you are is great and all but this was to the point where he was apparently offended at getting any kind of help because he refused to even see it as a disability.

Again people are really starting to deny reality and this behavior is starting to get supported. People need to learn to accept who they are, faults and all. Not pretend they don't have faults by putting fancy labels on them.
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Unless you are doing so to attach a cool robot limb replacement (still crazy, but at least that's cool AF!), I think this is the stupidest social movement yet! God dam left, every time ya make me think that you can't get more radical (progressive, same difference), ya prove me wrong.

Sometimes, I question being a liberal myself. Can't people have at least a bit of self restraint to not go full retard?

Oh well, not like I care too much, as long as this shit doesn't affect me directly in any way. I'll still think it's really stupid, but let idiots be idiots. Just don't pass a law where I have to treat these people with (too much) respect or force your idiot beliefs on me. But let's be honest, the chance of this actually being a thing is scary likely. (scary likely being 5% at safe estimation, but that is still too much)
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See this is what happens when we stop trying to treat mental illnesses and just makes excuses.

If a man wants to dress as a woman I won't say anything.

If a man has legit reasons to want to become a woman than I won't really agree due to how I believe gender works but I'll keep it to myself.


Pretty much how I feel about most of these issues. In the end it's usually a mental issue. I'll personally never understand their reasoning because it doesn't make any logical sense to me.
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By experience, the 'Aryan' people are often the one who get welfare and benefits for such 'disability by choice'. Alcoholic Aryans get top-priority in public apartments and can smoke illegally because they refuse rehab and force themselves into poverty. Psychopaths with Aryan features are allowed to make racist speech and assault physically handicapped people just because the Aryan psychopaths 'do not know right from wrong'.
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So now we live in a world where apparently mental illnesses are perfectly okay and shoudln't be fixed or questioned because it fits into some nonsense "trans" group so suggesting they need fixing is discrimination or something.


What specific group are you directing all of your tirade against? Mental illnesses and mental disabilities are not the same thing. So specifically which mental illness are you complaining about that isn't being fixed because of some nonsense trans group suggesting its discrimination?

Tumblr posts don't count. No one is receiving clinical support for their feeling like a panther on the inside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_8cfVpXbo




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I feel like a panther on the inside. I have one tattooed on my inner right thigh.
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I have one tattooed on my inner right thigh.


I'm not sure I, or anyone else, needed to know that.
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Next thing you hear is that there is a movement to accept mentally ill people like this.
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Things change. Just because your limb doesn't look the way you remember it or the way you want it, doesn't mean you should cut it off. If letting someone do it and then claim disability from it is a better solution than treating the insanity that is causing it, then this world has officially gone back to drilling holes in heads to get the evil spirits out that are causing migraines...
The problem is this isn't always a case of "insanity." More and more medical professionals are starting to believe some forms of this are more neurological with something physically mapped wrong so that the brain is not recognizing the limb. Typically people suffering from it on that level have a very distinct place where the affected limb stops feeling right. When they are saying the limb feels alien/not right it is as real feeling as someone experiencing any other sensation created by the brain. Actually removing the limb up to that point typically does completely solve this problem for people suffering from it on that level, unlike say drilling holes in one's skull in hopes it will stop migraine pain. Of course there are some sever side effects to loosing a limb. If every moment of your life is chronically uncomfortable however I can see why people might make that choice if doctors have yet to offer them another alternative.
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Things change. Just because your limb doesn't look the way you remember it or the way you want it, doesn't mean you should cut it off. If letting someone do it and then claim disability from it is a better solution than treating the insanity that is causing it, then this world has officially gone back to drilling holes in heads to get the evil spirits out that are causing migraines...
The problem is this isn't always a case of "insanity." More and more medical professionals are starting to believe some forms of this are more neurological with something physically mapped wrong so that the brain is not recognizing the limb. Typically people suffering from it on that level have a very distinct place where the affected limb stops feeling right. When they are saying the limb feels alien/not right it is as real feeling as someone experiencing any other sensation created by the brain. Actually removing the limb up to that point typically does completely solve this problem for people suffering from it on that level, unlike say drilling holes in one's skull in hopes it will stop migraine pain. Of course there are some sever side effects to loosing a limb. If every moment of your life is chronically uncomfortable however I can see why people might make that choice if doctors have yet to offer them another alternative.


Why does it matter if a limb is foreign or not. If it works that's the I.portant thing. I could understand chopping off a nonfunctional limb but why get rid of a limb that is functional even if its foreign. The thing is literally just a super advanced biological machine.
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