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Pissgate and associated documents not from US Intelligence
Posted 1/12/17
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Posted 1/12/17 , edited 1/12/17
Penthouse is now offering 1 million for the Trump piss video. ><



Rujikin wrote:
Because some people have been implying it was leaked from internal memos/investigations inside of our own agencies. This makes it pretty clear where it was from some 3rd party company with no facts on who it came from. Lots of rumors though. At this point it could as easily be 4chan as anyone else as we don't have proof either way.

It also states it has not been verified if it is reliable and they knew it was circulating for months meaning our massive intelligence community has no real proof of its validity. You know they were investigating it, as is their job, but they have found nothing worth noting.


#1: Trump was the one saying it was leaked from your own agencies.

#2: BBC reported that the allegations themselves have multiple sources including at least one other intelligence agency. McCain also sent someone overseas to meet with Obis to verify the dossier came from them. Before he handed it to the FBI. The issue is credible enough for the FBI to seek warrants and for it to be included in an intel brief.

So no, it could not easily be 4chan. Let alone one dude on 4chan retroactively claiming he caused it all with a single tweet.



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Rujikin wrote:

The board I remember is:

- What color is your onichans eyes
- What hairstyle do you have
- Whats your 2nd uncles hair color
- Whats the color of your cats eyes


~_~ Literally a bunch of people posting stuff that no one else reads then moving to the next topic to post another thing no one reads.


All it needs is a "Which Disney Prince Should Be Your Side D?" article and you could call them the BuzzFeed forums. In case you're wondering, this is an actual article on their website.


Thats the General I remember as well. >.>



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runec wrote:

No one said they were from US Intelligence and that statement doesn't make any claim on the material. How do you keep posting shit without even reading it? Your own bloody post even says where it came from.

The source was even identified by the WSJ and it wasn't 4chan.


I really agree with this. @Rujikin, suffice to say, your reading comprehension seems to be very emotionally clouded, to the point that you greatly misinterpret even the information you yourself are posting to the forums. The DNI statement only confirmed that the document wasn't generated by the US Intelligence community, and that they still haven't verified its allegations.

The news so far has been that the source was a former British intelligence agent working for a private firm, previously hired by Republican opponents during their primaries, and later from Democrats in the leadup to the election. This is consistent with the DNI's claims.

The news outlets are now also reporting about the identify of the former British agent, Christopher Steele, who apparently went into hiding yesterday out of fear for his life of Russian retaliation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/former-mi6-officer-produced-donald-trump-russian-dossier-terrified/
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Moscow's police should investigate if any crime took place, since I believe prostitution is illegal, but I don't really get why it matters if his nudes get put on the internet. Maybe a good opportunity to show teenage girls that they shouldn't be afraid of blackmailers using the same tactics.
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I highly doubt that McCain, or someone who didn't want to see Trump get elected, didn't pay Obis for the investigation. So basically, someone is paying an organization to come up with damaging evidence, and they produce a report that, in effect, says "Donald Trump slept with prostitutes in Russia and there's a video to prove that...but we don't have that proof, and no one that we know has seen that, so..."

You do understand how Intel work, don't you? You don't just approach people you know and ask them what they know. There's a huge financial investment, not only in paying off sources, but paying people to do the dirty work. It's not just hackers sitting in a dark room (though the younger ones seem to think that). So what it boils down to is something like "My Russian sources, having been wined and dined on $10000 champagne and caviar meals, told me that this occurred."

Wow.

Posted 1/12/17

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I highly doubt that McCain, or someone who didn't want to see Trump get elected, didn't pay Obis for the investigation. So basically, someone is paying an organization to come up with damaging evidence, and they produce a report that, in effect, says "Donald Trump slept with prostitutes in Russia and there's a video to prove that...but we don't have that proof, and no one that we know has seen that, so..."

You do understand how Intel work, don't you? You don't just approach people you know and ask them what they know. There's a huge financial investment, not only in paying off sources, but paying people to do the dirty work. It's not just hackers sitting in a dark room (though the younger ones seem to think that). So what it boils down to is something like "My Russian sources, having been wined and dined on $10000 champagne and caviar meals, told me that this occurred."

Wow.



So, without evidence, you are just going to make shit up and believe that instead? Okay.
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So, without evidence, you are just going to make shit up and believe that instead? Okay.


That is what's happening now with the US government, innit? I seem to recall our country going to war with Iraq because we had "credible reports" that they had WMDs.

And unless tangible evidence showing that the prostitutes were hired by the Russian government to extract information from Trump were produced, I don't see what the big deal is other than he takes his marital vows seriously. Engaging in prostitution is not illegal. JFK was famous for it.
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KennethKenstar wrote:

So, without evidence, you are just going to make shit up and believe that instead? Okay.


That is what's happening now with the US government, innit? I seem to recall our country going to war with Iraq because we had "credible reports" that they had WMDs.

And unless tangible evidence showing that the prostitutes were hired by the Russian government to extract information from Trump were produced, I don't see what the big deal is other than he takes his marital vows seriously. Engaging in prostitution is not illegal. JFK was famous for it.


I don't need your excuses. Just confirmation that you are willing to just make shit up in your head and believe it.
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Rujikin wrote:

DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
WASHINGTON, DC 20511

January 11, 2017

DNI Clapper Statement on Conversation with President-elect Trump

This evening, I had the opportunity to speak with President-elect Donald Trump to discuss recent media reports about our briefing last Friday. I expressed my profound dismay at the leaks that have been appearing in the press, and we both agreed that they are extremely corrosive and damaging to our national security.

We also discussed the private security company document, which was widely circulated in recent months among the media, members of Congress and Congressional staff even before the IC became aware of it. I emphasized that this document is not a U.S. Intelligence Community product and that I do not believe the leaks came from within the IC. The IC has not made any judgment that the information in this document is reliable, and we did not rely upon it in any way for our conclusions. However, part of our obligation is to ensure that policymakers are provided with the fullest possible picture of any matters that might affect national security.

President-elect Trump again affirmed his appreciation for all the men and women serving in the Intelligence Community, and I assured him that the IC stands ready to serve his Administration and the American people.

James R. Clapper, Director of National Intelligence

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/224-press-releases-2017/1469-dni-clapper-statement-on-conversation-with-president-elect-trump

Ya'll got trolled by 4chan, random trolls, or retarded newsmen/fact checkers. Either way KEK! Its been a good couple days.


this is the second time in a week(as far as I know) that the information you posted contradicted what you're trying to do/say. Sad...
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KennethKenstar wrote:


Akage-chan wrote:


KennethKenstar wrote:

So, without evidence, you are just going to make shit up and believe that instead? Okay.


That is what's happening now with the US government, innit? I seem to recall our country going to war with Iraq because we had "credible reports" that they had WMDs.

And unless tangible evidence showing that the prostitutes were hired by the Russian government to extract information from Trump were produced, I don't see what the big deal is other than he takes his marital vows seriously. Engaging in prostitution is not illegal. JFK was famous for it.


I don't need your excuses. Just confirmation that you are willing to just make shit up in your head and believe it.


What excuses? I'm asking for tangible evidence to be shown to prove that Trump has been compromised instead of "the secret Russian Dossier" that Buzzfeed is blasting on their website and that CNN is pointing to as a credible source even though they openly state that the "FBI has not been able to prove many of its points". This is how responsible, informed adults make good decisions, Kenneth. We don't read an article that supports our point of view without checking out multiple sources before we accept said article as the gospel truth.

D'aww...I I think a certain special snowflake needs a participation trophy, Kenneth.

Posted 1/12/17

Akage-chan wrote:


KennethKenstar wrote:


Akage-chan wrote:


KennethKenstar wrote:

So, without evidence, you are just going to make shit up and believe that instead? Okay.


That is what's happening now with the US government, innit? I seem to recall our country going to war with Iraq because we had "credible reports" that they had WMDs.

And unless tangible evidence showing that the prostitutes were hired by the Russian government to extract information from Trump were produced, I don't see what the big deal is other than he takes his marital vows seriously. Engaging in prostitution is not illegal. JFK was famous for it.


I don't need your excuses. Just confirmation that you are willing to just make shit up in your head and believe it.


What excuses? I'm asking for tangible evidence to be shown to prove that Trump has been compromised instead of "the secret Russian Dossier" that Buzzfeed is blasting on their website and that CNN is pointing to as a credible source even though they openly state that the "FBI has not been able to prove many of its points". This is how responsible, informed adults make good decisions, Kenneth. We don't read an article that supports our point of view without checking out multiple sources before we accept said article as the gospel truth.

D'aww...I I think a certain special snowflake needs a participation trophy, Kenneth.



I think you need a participation trophy for this topic.
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You two are tearing this family apart.
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KennethKenstar wrote:

I think you need a participation trophy for this topic.



And this is your great retort? LOL

Let me respond with a line that you probably use on a daily basis - "Thank you. Come again."
Posted 1/12/17
You are my favorite user runec.
Posted 1/12/17 , edited 1/12/17

Akage-chan wrote:


KennethKenstar wrote:

I think you need a participation trophy for this topic.



And this is your great retort? LOL

Let me respond with a line that you probably use on a daily basis - "Thank you. Come again."


lmfao I don't need to retort anything. You are willing to make shit up in head and believe it. I called you out and you just doubled down. You want absolute certainty to believe Donald Fraud is a shitlord, but to defend him you'll just make shit up.
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