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Define "worse". Because, to me, someone who wants to legalize everyone illegally here and adopt Bernie's plan of free education for all is a lot worse. The idea of paying European tax rates so some twerp can go to school for free while I never was given that option (nor would I or anyone else who went to college on their own dime) is far worse than someone who would rather focus on America and tell the rest of the world to shove it.


Stomping around the world like an angry toddler while putting your money directly into his own pocket instead of paying for some twerp to go to college? Causing massive hikes in the cost of every day goods and products by starting trade wars with your biggest trading partners? Playing pretend president by stacking a bunch of blank printer paper in blank folders next to him on stage while the wealthiest transition team in American history robs the country blind? Losing your position as a world leader because no one is going to take you seriously with president table full of manilla folders and steaks?

Yes, that's much better than free education. -.-



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Hillary's transition team would have robbed us blind as well. Name a politician that doesn't give perks to those who donate huge sums of cash....which, in Hillary's case, would have been Saudi Arabia. Can't imagine what concessions we'd have to give to a country whose citizens were involved in 9/11. I doubt those who lost family on 9/11 would ever be able to sue those who were involved if Hillary had been elected.
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Oh come on, nothing Trump has ever done can even compare to how Hillary's pay to play has left Haiti in ruins.

She essentially stole charity money going to the poorest nation on the planet after it was struck with a natural disaster.

Trump's done some questionable things in the past, but the majority of people haven't done their homework on Hillary especially since the media was/is protecting her by concealing all of her scandals.

Don't be so quick to write off Trump being worse than Hillary until you actually open the Clinton can of worms.

There is a reason a lot of the Bernie activists could NOT vote for Hillary even after she "won" the nomination.
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That really is the major problem. Trump is pushing through a truck load of ethically dubious shit and basically just ignoring any calls to stop him. He still hasn't released his tax returns, he won't divest his businesses which virtually guarantees numerous ongoing conflicts of interest, he's going full nepotism with trying to get family members into government positions and he's stuffing through as many appoints as he can in congress faster than the office of government ethics can keep up.

The entire thing is a complete, total and unabashedly corrupt shit show that makes virtually no effort to hide its maleficence. And yet some people are STILL cheering him on thinking that somehow, despite literally everything he has said and done, he will magically turn out to give a flying fuck about the working class. A class he has spent most his business career stiffing on payments for work rendered.



I do agree with this, Trump's transition has had an alarming lack of transparency. It does feel like Trump has something to hide, and it's brow-raising that he's done very little to sever himself from conflicts of interest that could affect him while in office. It doesn't help either that he doesn't have any governmental experience, so while part of it may be him attempting to overlook his Presidential obligations, another part is likely his simple unawareness of how things are supposed to work. It's the rockiest entry for a President I've ever witnessed, and I can't help but think it's going to get more complicated soon before it gets any better.
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Found it, the report that spells out where this BS came from. I think I got some things out of order and just wrong in my previous post, my apologies, but here is a detailed explanation of the whole stupid ordeal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWu1lheBNk
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Found it, the report that spells out where this BS came from. I think I got some things out of order and just wrong in my previous post, my apologies, but here is a detailed explanation of the whole stupid ordeal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWu1lheBNk


Only new bit there is Fusion GSP being the intermediary. Which is interesting as that's a sort of double outsource. This just keeps getting more and more layers of confusion to sort through. Between that and /pol/ and MDE all claiming they too were the source its getting kind of ridiculous. It could very well backfire. With so many conflicting angles regardless of whether its the truth or not some people will still think it is or at least consider it plausible.

The Streisand Effect and what not.

That aside, it is hard to watch a hypocritical dick like Bill "I won two Peabodies" O'Reilly sit there and talk about journalistic integrity. Talk about the wrong messenger for the message.
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That aside, it is hard to watch a hypocritical dick like Bill "I won two Peabodies" O'Reilly sit there and talk about journalistic integrity. Talk about the wrong messenger for the message.


Yea, no matter how many times I see him I always remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-Y3HJNU_s

It's just too good.
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Yea, no matter how many times I see him I always remember this:


Fark it, we'll do it live?




Yep, fark it we'll do it live. >.>
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Is this the hacker, Ruji?

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Rujikin wrote:



BBC interview where British intel says that Steele was paid by Jeb Bush to create something that can discredit Donald Trump then the contract was took over by the Democrats. He tried making the whole thing as long as possible to get paid more: https://streamable.com/nrqfo


This is a BBC interview with Ted Malloch, businessman and close associate of Donald Trump, making these statements. Andre Walker is getting his information from the same video. Could you help me find any other information that backs up his claims that UK intelligence agencies have stated this?



http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2017/01/11/could-this-be-the-british-mi6-agent-behind-the-trump-fbi-memos/#13efa50637da

[UPDATE: Two hours after this story was published, the British government lifted a restriction on U.K. media outlets, which enabled them to report that Steele is, in fact, the former MI6 agent behind the memos. Steele has not confirmed or denied the authorship, and is believed to be "in hiding" and "in fear of his life," according to BBC World Affairs correspondent Paul Wood.]



So many concern and doubt trolls. Not going to bother replying to them.
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Jude_Thaddeus wrote:

Is this the hacker, Ruji?



I've heard reports that this is the man:

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Rujikin wrote:


Layer8 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:



BBC interview where British intel says that Steele was paid by Jeb Bush to create something that can discredit Donald Trump then the contract was took over by the Democrats. He tried making the whole thing as long as possible to get paid more: https://streamable.com/nrqfo


This is a BBC interview with Ted Malloch, businessman and close associate of Donald Trump, making these statements. Andre Walker is getting his information from the same video. Could you help me find any other information that backs up his claims that UK intelligence agencies have stated this?



http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2017/01/11/could-this-be-the-british-mi6-agent-behind-the-trump-fbi-memos/#13efa50637da

[UPDATE: Two hours after this story was published, the British government lifted a restriction on U.K. media outlets, which enabled them to report that Steele is, in fact, the former MI6 agent behind the memos. Steele has not confirmed or denied the authorship, and is believed to be "in hiding" and "in fear of his life," according to BBC World Affairs correspondent Paul Wood.]



So many concern and doubt trolls. Not going to bother replying to them.


Maybe I wasn't clear with my question, I apologize. What I am asking is can you verify the statement Andre Walker made, in the tweet you posted, that "UK intelligence has said Chris Steele was paid by Jeb Bush to lie about Donald Trump", keyword lie. Neither of the articles you linked proved this claim. They were interesting articles none the less, thanks for sharing.
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