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The US economy is the biggest in the world. It collects 4.6 trillion dollars in taxes a year. What government programs would you sacrifice to get free universal healthcare?
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The US National Institute of Health has a Centre for Alternative and Complimentary Medicine. That would probably be my first pick for what's to gtfo. SAMHSA would be my second, though in that case it's less for being completely unnecessary and more for being absolute shit at what it's supposed to do.

Oh, and aren't there like 16 different spy agencies as well? I would assume you can probably cut a few of those loose.
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Nothing i already have it :D
it's the best thing in the world i wouldn't live in a country without it.
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That's easy, the entire Republican Party! Boom. Gone. Done. Bam!
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I can think of many sacrifices:
1) The welfare programs to the rich property owners so the economic elites cannot use their control over resource to become the invisible hand and determine the reward and punishment of locals.
2) military funding since the dominance of the global Capitalists show that violence is not always necessary to suppress opposition.
3) secret foreign workers smuggling programs since those programs is used to divide workers and weaken unions.
4) fake food relief programs which provide food to well-feed areas to make the local farmers lose their jobs so the locals will become dependent on the evil foreign corporation.
5) programs for Olympics which use large portion of taxpayer money to attract immigrants.
6) secret funding toward some anime social media which is used to create a negative image of anime fans and sponsor right-wing campaigns.
7) funding toward the transnational puppet government organizations (like WTO and NAFTA) which is used to control international trade to serve the interest of the global Capitalists.
8) the "help the developing countries progress" programs which assume that the developing countries can progress only by going into huge debt so they can be forced to open up their country to the criminal activities from the transnational corporate, generate many third world problems, and produce many foreign workers for the Western countries.
Posted 1/16/17
Nothing because socialized healthcare is pretty terrible.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/former-nhs-hospital-director-died-119649
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Already have it and it's great.
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agbadvance wrote:

That's easy, the entire Republican Party! Boom. Gone. Done. Bam!


u just read my mind

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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Nothing because socialized healthcare is pretty terrible.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/former-nhs-hospital-director-died-119649


So is American healthcare.

Both have there ups and downs and pro's and con's.

Universal Healthcare in my country has more pro's then con's and is better for my country then if it were to go with a system like America's so there are many variables to consider.
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What's that old saying.. "I'd give my right nut for.."?
Regular medicine already took my right testicle. I'd offer my left as well for universal healthcare, seems worth it. What we have now in the US isn't super great - could be improved, but the ideas I'm hearing for the post ACA era seem more like going backwards to insurers set the costs, not towards universal care that all just have.

Could be wrong, of course. They're being quite coy with details, other than "great" and "beautiful". Maybe our insurance cards will include glitter in the new system.
Posted 1/16/17 , edited 1/16/17
Senators and Representatives' Salary - We're spending roughly about $93,000,000 or so on salaries for these people, per year (they haven't had an increase in pay since 2008). I understand that $174,000 a year isn't much for an "executive" role - but this is a government position. It should be cut to some degree. I'd even argue as far to say that they should all receive minimum wage or within a $10,000 of what minimum wage would be ($25,000 a year?).

Military - Conservatives/Republicans complain so much about how much presence our military has in other countries, so we should probably start cutting costs in those departments as well. R&D, military weapons, salaries, etc. I know most military officers don't get much in terms of overall pay but they do get substantial benefits. We could always try to restructure the military as a whole and make it more effective for less cost.

Government workers and contractors - This falls in line with the military, to a degree. A friend of mine is making $172,000 a year as a contractor for the government (as an electrical engineer). He only works about 5 hours a week for around 4 months of the year, then does nothing for the rest of the year. I'm sure there's plenty of roles like this that could easily be cut or salaries could be more in line with the national average for the position (he's making almost $80,000 more than the national average for his position and works significantly less than most electrical engineers do).

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I mean, I don't think these things should be cut/minimized just for universal healthcare. Even if we are without universal health care, these things should be addressed to ensure that we're not bleeding money left and right.
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I'd give up a few gas station hot dogs a year for it.
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I'd eliminate the DEA, ATF & DHLS, cut defense spending by 20 - 30%, cut elected offical salaries by 30 - 40% and simplify the tax code so the rich and corporations couldn't avoid paying.
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Health care needs to be outlawed because the best way to get government out of health care is to make it illegal.

Also, you know how to get those Mexicans to pay for a wall? When Americans start flooding into their country to get health care, they will be building that wall and paying for it themselves.
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camay1997 wrote:

I'd eliminate the DEA, ATF & DHLS, cut defense spending by 20 - 30%, cut elected offical salaries by 30 - 40% and simplify the tax code so the rich and corporations couldn't avoid paying.


I can see where frustrations are likely to arise with the others but why the ATF?
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