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CNN's Marc Lamont Hill: Blacks meeting with Trump are 'mediocre Negroes'
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ninjitsuko wrote: I usually respond with something as such to see just how well the troll will take his own bait... ergo, why I called him out and carried on.
damn, stopping with these awful baits so these sea creatures could sleep for a while could be great...

Posted 1/18/17

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damn, stopping with these awful baits so these sea creatures could sleep for a while could be great...



Fine, fine. I was just having fun for once. I'm usually more serious and just try to have a constructive conversation. I guess I got tired of all of the repetitive news posts ... figured I'd bait to see if OP/others would take it. It was pretty cheesy/tacky, even for troll baiting. I'll go ahead and meander out of this thread with a TL;DR...

TL;DR: "CNN has racist dude on their show, claims that Trump only brings in 'mediocre negroes' (racist remark). Racism is bad, mmmkay?
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kevz_210 wrote:

This should come as no surprise, there have recently been more members of the left resorting to identity politics. Everything and anything in their eyes has to do with a classification or category a person falls under: race, gender, sexual identity, etc. This type of divisiveness has gotten quite bad and has caused the left to neglect talking about other issues that are also important: labor mobilization, trade, jobs, etc. which will continue to cost them elections. Now don't get me wrong, some of the complaints are justified, like a very unfair justice system and uneven application of force against minorities. However, when they resort to essentially calling a black person an Uncle Tom for being a Conservative to telling women that they have an obligation to vote for someone solely because they are of the same gender to defending that bigot Symone Sanders on CNN on everything she says, it's wrong and should be universally condemned.


Nice post. Though I will disagree with the uneven application of force. My Dad looks like a hippy/poor and gets treated pretty shitty by the police. I think it is more related to if you look poor or how you dress/hairstyle than skin color. If you look like someone they have had trouble with in the past then they treat you badly. If you look like a "professional" that they rarely have trouble with they treat you nicely.

At least thats how it is around here it seems.

My dad gets randomly selected to prove he paid for what he bought at walmart while I've never had it done to me.


A rich white guy gets caught for cocaine possession often gets a slap on the wrist (mandatory rehab and counseling), a poor black guy rots away in jail forever for the same crime. Crack ( a drug mostly found in "ghetto areas') vs Cocaine sentencing differences (a drug predominantly found in rich and upper middle class mostly white suburbs) is probably one of the most blatant examples of discrimination that are still on the books. De facto local zoning and residential segregation can be found is basically any urban/suburb area in the US.
I've also seen my black friends being harassed or followed by store owners, while the whites in our group are left alone, to having my mother and I be followed around and harassed in certain businesses, but my lighter skin siblings and father essentially never having been subjected to such treatment. Alas, I suppose it's best that we table this discussion for another day to try to keep things relevant to the thread's topic.
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Fine, fine. I was just having fun for once.
XP I know, dunno why but I just get used to these shitty dumps of "what eva" titles or such.
Hopefully they hold some funny videos or "decent" sites.
but it seems like even that is lesser these days?

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If a White guy had said that.... All hell would have broken loose. That this is being excused, just because another Black man had said it, is sickening. Such depraved hypocrisy. People here are actually excusing it and justifying it? Racism is racism is racism, and there is no excuse for it.
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Posted 1/19/17

Rujikin wrote:


ninjitsuko wrote:


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Uncle Ruckus agrees that you can't be racist against blacks because <insert racist rant>


Should probably check one of my follow-up responses to criticism of my statement.
It appears that it's good troll bait.



Racism is racism. Internalized racisracism is a buzzword to avoid being flat out racist.


For once I actually agree with you. If it isn't racism, then why is it called racism?
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kevz_210 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


kevz_210 wrote:

This should come as no surprise, there have recently been more members of the left resorting to identity politics. Everything and anything in their eyes has to do with a classification or category a person falls under: race, gender, sexual identity, etc. This type of divisiveness has gotten quite bad and has caused the left to neglect talking about other issues that are also important: labor mobilization, trade, jobs, etc. which will continue to cost them elections. Now don't get me wrong, some of the complaints are justified, like a very unfair justice system and uneven application of force against minorities. However, when they resort to essentially calling a black person an Uncle Tom for being a Conservative to telling women that they have an obligation to vote for someone solely because they are of the same gender to defending that bigot Symone Sanders on CNN on everything she says, it's wrong and should be universally condemned.


Nice post. Though I will disagree with the uneven application of force. My Dad looks like a hippy/poor and gets treated pretty shitty by the police. I think it is more related to if you look poor or how you dress/hairstyle than skin color. If you look like someone they have had trouble with in the past then they treat you badly. If you look like a "professional" that they rarely have trouble with they treat you nicely.

At least thats how it is around here it seems.

My dad gets randomly selected to prove he paid for what he bought at walmart while I've never had it done to me.


A rich white guy gets caught for cocaine possession often gets a slap on the wrist (mandatory rehab and counseling), a poor black guy rots away in jail forever for the same crime. Crack ( a drug mostly found in "ghetto areas') vs Cocaine sentencing differences (a drug predominantly found in rich and upper middle class mostly white suburbs) is probably one of the most blatant examples of discrimination that are still on the books. De facto local zoning and residential segregation can be found is basically any urban/suburb area in the US.
I've also seen my black friends being harassed or followed by store owners, while the whites in our group are left alone, to having my mother and I be followed around and harassed in certain businesses, but my lighter skin siblings and father essentially never having been subjected to such treatment. Alas, I suppose it's best that we table this discussion for another day to try to keep things relevant to the thread's topic.


I would change cocaine to marijuana at this point. The fact that Obama hasn't done enough to end the drug war, despite it being the main contributor to urban poverty among blacks, doesn't make any sense.
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Why aren't all of the White celebrities who supported and met with Trump called "mediocre crackers?" Why is it O.K. and expected for White celebrities to support a Republican, but when a Black celebrity does, he is condemned as a sell-out? Are they saying that Black Americans do not have the freedom to determine who they support, and what political agenda to pursue?

Harvey actually has a cause that he supports and has been championing. So, why can't he take action to further his cause? Why can't he meet with the in coming administration to further the cause that he champions? Do you not see the hypocritical racism of CNN's reporter?

Harvey made it clear that he was a Hillary supporter, but that on Obama's recommendation, he gave Trump a chance. CNN's reporter exposes the narrow minded self destructive tendencies of leftists to keep politics racially segregated.
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Why aren't all of the White celebrities who supported and met with Trump called "mediocre crackers?" Why is it O.K. and expected for White celebrities to support a Republican, but when a Black celebrity does, he is condemned as a sell-out? Are they saying that Black Americans do not have the freedom to determine who they support, and what political agenda to pursue?


I guess they feel a sense of ownership over blacks and their actions, compared to other Americans, and can't stand the thought of a Montague hanging out with a Capulet.
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kevz_210 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


kevz_210 wrote:

This should come as no surprise, there have recently been more members of the left resorting to identity politics. Everything and anything in their eyes has to do with a classification or category a person falls under: race, gender, sexual identity, etc. This type of divisiveness has gotten quite bad and has caused the left to neglect talking about other issues that are also important: labor mobilization, trade, jobs, etc. which will continue to cost them elections. Now don't get me wrong, some of the complaints are justified, like a very unfair justice system and uneven application of force against minorities. However, when they resort to essentially calling a black person an Uncle Tom for being a Conservative to telling women that they have an obligation to vote for someone solely because they are of the same gender to defending that bigot Symone Sanders on CNN on everything she says, it's wrong and should be universally condemned.


Nice post. Though I will disagree with the uneven application of force. My Dad looks like a hippy/poor and gets treated pretty shitty by the police. I think it is more related to if you look poor or how you dress/hairstyle than skin color. If you look like someone they have had trouble with in the past then they treat you badly. If you look like a "professional" that they rarely have trouble with they treat you nicely.

At least thats how it is around here it seems.

My dad gets randomly selected to prove he paid for what he bought at walmart while I've never had it done to me.


A rich white guy gets caught for cocaine possession often gets a slap on the wrist (mandatory rehab and counseling), a poor black guy rots away in jail forever for the same crime. Crack ( a drug mostly found in "ghetto areas') vs Cocaine sentencing differences (a drug predominantly found in rich and upper middle class mostly white suburbs) is probably one of the most blatant examples of discrimination that are still on the books. De facto local zoning and residential segregation can be found is basically any urban/suburb area in the US.
I've also seen my black friends being harassed or followed by store owners, while the whites in our group are left alone, to having my mother and I be followed around and harassed in certain businesses, but my lighter skin siblings and father essentially never having been subjected to such treatment. Alas, I suppose it's best that we table this discussion for another day to try to keep things relevant to the thread's topic.


I would change cocaine to marijuana at this point. The fact that Obama hasn't done enough to end the drug war, despite it being the main contributor to urban poverty among blacks, doesn't make any sense.


in truth i think despite them sharing the commonality of skin color obama likely didn't actually care too much for the lower class black people otherwise im sure their would've been more done to try and handle some of the issues found in gettos and such but as far as im aware he didn't do much. plus his support of Hillary a person who is partly responsible for the troubles facing many black communities and a known racist i think helps attest to this.
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DeadlyOats wrote:

Why aren't all of the White celebrities who supported and met with Trump called "mediocre crackers?" Why is it O.K. and expected for White celebrities to support a Republican, but when a Black celebrity does, he is condemned as a sell-out? Are they saying that Black Americans do not have the freedom to determine who they support, and what political agenda to pursue?

Harvey actually has a cause that he supports and has been championing. So, why can't he take action to further his cause? Why can't he meet with the in coming administration to further the cause that he champions? Do you not see the hypocritical racism of CNN's reporter?

Harvey made it clear that he was a Hillary supporter, but that on Obama's recommendation, he gave Trump a chance. CNN's reporter exposes the narrow minded self destructive tendencies of leftists to keep politics racially segregated.


Let's be fair, there are barely any A list celebrities at Trump's inauguration. Public pressure not to attend is too much.
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Seems to me that CNN is full of racists and bigots.


You have to differentiate media for this. CNN are racial and political polemicists who profit from their trade. While a certain bigotry can be found in their positioning, it would sway if they could cause more damage and make more money with a different angle.
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Let's be fair, there are barely any A list celebrities at Trump's inauguration. Public pressure not to attend is too much.


And this is the epic misnomer. It is not public pressure, it is the worthless people in Hollywood that run the entertainment industry like a dogmatic indoctrination machine. Anyone who gives an unapproved message doesn't get work. The problem is not the public, it's California.
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Actually, Ben Carson is on Trump's team and I don't think anyone could call him mediocre
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Actually, Ben Carson is on Trump's team and I don't think anyone could call him mediocre


While they have not called him "mediocre," they have asserted that he has no right to choose his own political path, no right to pursue his own political beliefs, no right to follow what he truly believes.

If that isn't the most racist, and hypocritical behavior anyone can perpetrate by a liberal organization that purports to champion the rights and liberties of the Black American, then what else can it be?

http://firebrandleft.com/ben-carson-really-uncle-tom/


Is Ben Carson Really An “Uncle Tom?”



There are two fields commonly associated with high degrees of intelligence: rocket scientist and brain surgeon are lauded as the “smartest” professions around, according to various streams of our vernacular anyway. But Dr. Ben Carson, a former brain surgeon, disproves that theory practically every time he speaks. How a man so talented in medicine could be such a dimwit outside of said practice is, in itself, a medical mystery.



http://www.theblaze.com/news/2015/08/12/dr-ben-carson-has-a-message-for-critics-who-dismiss-him-as-an-uncle-tom-or-traitor-to-his-race/


Dr. Ben Carson Has a Message for Critics Who Dismiss Him As an ‘Uncle Tom’ or ‘Traitor to His Race’



Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson responded Wednesday in New York City to critics who dismiss him as an “Uncle Tom” or a “traitor to his race.”

“I’d say they need to actually listen not only to what I’m saying, but look at my life and look at what’s been done,” the retired neurosurgeon told TheBlaze. “It is the things that have been done that elevate people. Not things that impress people and make them dependent.”

As Carson’s celebrity has risen in the Republican Party, he has been accused by many left-wing bloggers as an “Uncle Tom” figure. An article published on the Daily Kos said, “Dear Ben Carson, When a Person Has to Deny Being an Uncle Tom, It Usually Means They Are One.”


https://books.google.com/books?id=jmvrCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT29&lpg=PT29&dq=ben+carson+derided+as+uncle+tom&source=bl&ots=mx4ziyaV3W&sig=77wPrRB60_FUOJvkbAK_O0NQrR4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8pezKltLRAhUG1GMKHSflBPcQ6AEIOzAG#v=onepage&q=ben%20carson%20derided%20as%20uncle%20tom&f=false


Donald Trump:

The Pros and Cons

Why You Should and Should Not Vote for Him for President.


(From the section labeled "Politics.")


A black man who establishes his political roots in the Republican Party is called many names, very few of them flattering. “Outsider” would be a good generic description, with no immediate negative connotation. But a black man can be also be called, “Uncle Tom”, a sell-out, and a white man’s “b” word that rhymes with witch. The representative lot of black conservatives and Republicans have endured, and continue to suffer, derision from other blacks. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, former cabinet member Condoleeza Rice, and others have endured private and public condemnation. The last “serious” black Republican candidate, Former Chief of Staff Colin Powell, was a half-hearted pro-lifer, who, despite his substantial armed forces credentials, was a dove in the political aspects of terrorism and national defense.

Not so for Dr. Carson, who only actually registered as a Republican in 2013. Unfortunately for Dr. Carson, the African-American political establishment does not suffer “dissidents” well. National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) president, Cornell William Brooks, in an interview with CNN, said, “I believe Dr. Carson, with all due respect, should stick to the operating room, rather than the campaign trail.”
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