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Posted 1/18/17 , edited 1/19/17
Alternatively instead of being concerned... if enough people write/email CR their concerns with breaking up their amazing team the "man upstairs| " will likely take note. If not then it is possible that the parent company will get public backlash. How many times have companies back peddled under the pressure of public backlash and threat of boycotting poor management. Just sent my email.. cheers!
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Posted 1/18/17 , edited 1/19/17
this kind of crap is unfortunately more common in corporate culture than you'd think, and I mean the kind of shit that involves obvious conflicts of interest. It's an unfortunate reality that Crunchyroll has changed hands in terms of controlling interests for some time, and Otter Media/Ellation is just the latest.

Just about everyone at Crunchyroll was an actual anime fan, who knows what these outsourced engineers are like. This is particularly why I have a bad taste in my mouth in regards to holding or umbrella companies with massive corporate backers, shit like this happens.

Hopefully those affected can find good jobs, but the unfortunate reality is that they might not be working in the same environm,ent they might have enjoyed about working at CR.
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Posted 1/19/17 , edited 1/19/17

Sir_jamesalot wrote:


TheDustyForest wrote:


Sir_jamesalot wrote:


johnnymcool wrote:

I hope they fired makotomakui. He needed/needs to go. Really unprofessional and rude.


I found him unprofessional, too. But I only want to know why.


If by 'I only want to know why' you meant why the layoffs and stuff it seems the big comment at the top of this Reddit thread was posted by an anonymous CR employee...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Crunchyroll/comments/5oug4a/apparently_there_have_been_layoffs/


That's not what I meant, but I will read this. Thank you.


What do you mean then?
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Posted 1/19/17 , edited 1/19/17
Sounds like cleaning up shop to me.

This only means expansion/ professionalism, if that is the case

This is a bigger move than what you all actually think. Probably restructuring.

Plus it's a layoff. Not termination
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Posted 1/19/17 , edited 1/19/17
I have never had a significant problem with any CR Employee, so I wish those going luck and ease in their transition.
Thanks to all of you in the industry for your hard work.
Posted 1/19/17 , edited 1/19/17

johnnymcool wrote:

I hope they fired makotomakui. He needed/needs to go. Really unprofessional and rude.


Unfortunately, for you. MakotoKamui is a moderator; they're a volunteer position.
In other words, seeing as this has only impacted their engineering team and the forum is still around .. he isn't being "fired" from a position that he doesn't get paid for.


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So I don't know if anyone else saw this, getting more than a little nervous :s


This does happen quite a bit, unfortunately, in the professional realm. Laying off the engineers doesn't necessarily mean that "the end is nigh" and that Crunchyroll is going to go back to the stone ages. If anything, those who were terminated were due to conflicts when another team of engineers came into the mix. It appears that the most concerning thing are that they've allowed a potential conflict of interest by hiring a CTO at the parent company (Ellation) that owns Crunchyroll. One of the posts on the Reddit seems concerning - but, despite that, these kinds of things happen in IT quite often (sadly, even the company I work for is being acquired and everyone is going to be terminated except for my team and technical support).

I guess I'll summarize with a TL;DR:

It doesn't impact your ability to use Crunchyroll. They've brought in new engineers from an outsourced company that they purchased (Yopeso). Yes, this meant that the CTO terminated quite a few engineers. Yes, this will cause some internal scuffle for a small period of time. No, this doesn't mean that CR is closing/dying/etc.
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Posted 1/19/17 , edited 1/19/17

ninjitsuko wrote:


johnnymcool wrote:

I hope they fired makotomakui. He needed/needs to go. Really unprofessional and rude.


Unfortunately, for you. MakotoKamui is a moderator; they're a volunteer position.
In other words, seeing as this has only impacted their engineering team and the forum is still around .. he isn't being "fired" from a position that he doesn't get paid for.


TheDustyForest wrote:
So I don't know if anyone else saw this, getting more than a little nervous :s


This does happen quite a bit, unfortunately, in the professional realm. Laying off the engineers doesn't necessarily mean that "the end is nigh" and that Crunchyroll is going to go back to the stone ages. If anything, those who were terminated were due to conflicts when another team of engineers came into the mix. It appears that the most concerning thing are that they've allowed a potential conflict of interest by hiring a CTO at the parent company (Ellation) that owns Crunchyroll. One of the posts on the Reddit seems concerning - but, despite that, these kinds of things happen in IT quite often (sadly, even the company I work for is being acquired and everyone is going to be terminated except for my team and technical support).

I guess I'll summarize with a TL;DR:

It doesn't impact your ability to use Crunchyroll. They've brought in new engineers from an outsourced company that they purchased (Yopeso). Yes, this meant that the CTO terminated quite a few engineers. Yes, this will cause some internal scuffle for a small period of time. No, this doesn't mean that CR is closing/dying/etc.


Hey, I'm curious, why does it seem to me that almost all your responses to people have a vibe of condescension to them? Sometimes veeeeery subtle, sometimes just blatant? I was just an another thread before, and you started being condescending with others, even though they didn't attack you. You remind me very much like octorocknroll, in that you instigate fights with others when they aren't even messing with you. It just seems unesscessary to me. You don't have to agree with others on what they say, but you don't have to attack them either. This is why a few weeks back a lot of my posts were angry/angry sounding. People start shit and attack me, or something I am a part of and all it does is make me want to attack back. I'm trying hard to follow Loreen's post about respecting others, but it's hard for me to want to respect others if they can't respect me or I see them attack others when others didn't attack them.
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She is probably copy and pasting some memo they were told to post when the acquisition happened. Suffice it to say they are avoiding talking about it and preventing any major discussion from starting up. What Lorreen says is true but sometimes a company can be made or broken by certain individuals.


Nope. Those are my own words based on my own work experience. I've been laid off twice--once because the company was struggling financially, the other because of a merger. In my current company (which is not CR--I'm just a volunteer mod here; my full-time paying job is is elsewhere) I've seen several "reorganizations" some clearly related to acquisitions, others for greater efficiency and to match the direction the company is going. All of them involved at least a couple of layoffs, often including bosses and colleagues I knew and had worked with, though I've been lucky myself so far in that regard.

It's never pleasant, it's often difficult both for people leaving and those who stay, but it's often also got benefits both for the company as an entity and for the staff who remain working there, once the discomfort of change is dealt with..

I didn't even know about this CR acquisition and layoff until l read this thread.
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Posted 1/19/17
Ok so Shinryou posted on the Reddit thread basically saying that everyone is over-reacting and it won't have a noticeable impact on the service, so at least there's that.
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yeah but let's be honest. even if there are going to be big changes around here, for now that's all they can say to keep the crowd at bay.
at this point, we still don't know what's going to happen in the future, hopefully crunchyroll will get better as result. but if there's even slight decrease in service i know i'm not going to renew my subscription. until then i'll be keeping my premium service.
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Posted 1/19/17
Sorry, I just reloaded the page from yesterday so I didn't realise there was a second page of posts until I just posted a minute ago.


Humms wrote:

Sounds like cleaning up shop to me.

This only means expansion/ professionalism, if that is the case

This is a bigger move than what you all actually think. Probably restructuring.

Plus it's a layoff. Not termination


I do understand this, but, while it may sound selfish, one of the things I love about CR compared to other companies (e.g. Funimation), is how interactions with the staff don't feel like you're talking to a company person. 9 times out of 10 it feels like you're just talking to another anime fan. The potential for a greater push towards 'professionalism' to me just makes me imagine CR ending up like Funimation (not hating on Funimation, but they make it fairly obvious that they are a business first and foremost, from the constant ads to upgrade your account (probably non-existent any more), the bad puns about deals trying to get you to buy the latest Dragon Ball Blu-Ray set or whatever, the fact that logging in by default reroutes you to the store front, the way they announce their simulcasts etc.). I just like the semi-unprofessional feel they have going on here at CR, and I think others do as well.


ninjitsuko wrote:

This does happen quite a bit, unfortunately, in the professional realm. Laying off the engineers doesn't necessarily mean that "the end is nigh" and that Crunchyroll is going to go back to the stone ages. If anything, those who were terminated were due to conflicts when another team of engineers came into the mix. It appears that the most concerning thing are that they've allowed a potential conflict of interest by hiring a CTO at the parent company (Ellation) that owns Crunchyroll. One of the posts on the Reddit seems concerning - but, despite that, these kinds of things happen in IT quite often (sadly, even the company I work for is being acquired and everyone is going to be terminated except for my team and technical support).

I guess I'll summarize with a TL;DR:

It doesn't impact your ability to use Crunchyroll. They've brought in new engineers from an outsourced company that they purchased (Yopeso). Yes, this meant that the CTO terminated quite a few engineers. Yes, this will cause some internal scuffle for a small period of time. No, this doesn't mean that CR is closing/dying/etc.


Yeah, now that more stuff is becoming clearer I think I was over-reacting. Some of the more informational posts imply it was mostly engineering being affected, it was just that there were a lot of vague tweets from major CR staff (e.g. Victoria, Miles, Evan, LugiaMania) which I inferred to mean they had all been laid off. I imagine what they were actually tweeting about was their displeasure with the mergers that led to so many people being laid off (or at least I hope that's the case, as horrible as that sounds).
Posted 1/19/17

Sir_jamesalot wrote:


johnnymcool wrote:

I hope they fired makotomakui. He needed/needs to go. Really unprofessional and rude.


I found him unprofessional, too. But I only want to know why.


Agreed. But unfortunately It don't think most of the Mods here get paid anything except a free premium account.
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Do you want to know the odds of Funi taking over CR? they're high.
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Do you want to know the odds of Funi taking over CR? they're high.


I don't mind. It would probably mean funimation would finally get some good quality streaming.
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lots people are cancelling. you can watch same stuff crunchy roll has and same quality for free some where else on the internet. sometimes its upload before CR even has it rare but it does happen. . yes may be illegal but people do it. CR also makes a lot of there money on merchandise, unfortunately what they sell is cheap over priced low quality garbage. majority of people that use CR don't buy thing from their store. they don't use the forums. they just come here and watch anime. at a certain point in time was the only play you could legally watch few anime shows legally and support them. but everyone is just going to funi you get same stuff and way more content + better app and more English dubs. maybe CR ganna die surprise 2017.
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