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I have seen the term fascism thrown around a lot recently, however very few people ever tend to get it right.

Here is a Wikipedia article compiling some of the most well known definitions of fascism. Take a read and enjoy learning something new! I quite enjoyed learning more about fascism and what it truly means and how it is correctly defined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

The sources at the bottom of the page are well cited and if you desire and have the ability to pay/read the papers, go ahead! I am working on a few of them right now. You may be able to find them free on the web as well.

Question times: Does fascism seem bad to you? Why, why not? Did you enjoy learning and reading about fascism? If you have anything else to add, feel free!

Edit: Another question! Of the list, which definition spoke to you? I quite enjoyed the one by the Marxists.
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Yes, because it breads (in my opinion) a harmful philosophy about the role of people. You aren't to pursue your own passions. You're to pursue the states. But who controls the states passions? Well historically, the most fucked up guy out of all of them.
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Communism is the superior government.
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Yes of course fascism seems bad to me, no I learnt nothing new seeing as my family has been pretty well aware of fascism since that was kind of the whole reason they had to leave their home country of Italy and no, no form of facism is kosher.
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Meh theoretically speaking any form of governance has the potential to form a successful and productive society , everything from the monarchies and empires of old to the ideals thrown around nowadays. Of course that is theoretically speaking, realistically humanity has fucked up every form of governance known to human kind.

Fascism in particular has had it's name dragged through the mud, by the Third Reich and Mussolini's regime. And few other fascist governments have set any particularly higher standards. And while I can't argue against it's policy of placing the needs of the state before the petty wants of a few emo cunts there is no real historical precedence that I can use to say Fascism is a worthwhile form of governance.
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I find it funny when (a lot) people use fascism as an insult related to how it was defined by George Orwell.
It's usually thrown around by people spoiled by the first-world lifestyle, and they became so mundane with their life that they complain about everything.

People, like that, has made the term kind of useless, usually what they refer to is just someone that may slightly disagree with them.
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mxdan wrote:

Yes, because it breads (in my opinion) a harmful philosophy about the role of people. You aren't to pursue your own passions. You're to pursue the states. But who controls the states passions? Well historically, the most fucked up guy out of all of them.


Compared to Democracy which is essentially two wolves and a sheep having dinner, enslaved by a materialistic society beholden to your own desires? pfft.

Constitutional Monarchy FTW

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Jude_Thaddeus wrote:


mxdan wrote:

Yes, because it breads (in my opinion) a harmful philosophy about the role of people. You aren't to pursue your own passions. You're to pursue the states. But who controls the states passions? Well historically, the most fucked up guy out of all of them.


Compared to Democracy which is essentially two wolves and a sheep having dinner, enslaved by a materialistic society beholden to your own desires? pfft.

Constitutional Monarchy FTW



Mate there is no good form of government short of mind controlling every single human being. There are seven and half billion people out there who think there are the most important thing in the world . Furthermore they keep mistaking desires and wants as basic essential needs. They equate their petty lusts as important as the food keeping them alive. They don't get we have to build the house first before we go buying fucking 4k tvs and gaming pcs.
Posted 1/23/17

Jude_Thaddeus wrote:


mxdan wrote:

Yes, because it breads (in my opinion) a harmful philosophy about the role of people. You aren't to pursue your own passions. You're to pursue the states. But who controls the states passions? Well historically, the most fucked up guy out of all of them.


Compared to Democracy which is essentially two wolves and a sheep having dinner, enslaved by a materialistic society beholden to your own desires? pfft.

Constitutional Monarchy FTW



Is that Saint John the Baptist as your avatar?
I like that icon!
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Posted 1/23/17 , edited 1/23/17
punch your local fascist
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HuastecoOtaku wrote:


Jude_Thaddeus wrote:


mxdan wrote:

Yes, because it breads (in my opinion) a harmful philosophy about the role of people. You aren't to pursue your own passions. You're to pursue the states. But who controls the states passions? Well historically, the most fucked up guy out of all of them.


Compared to Democracy which is essentially two wolves and a sheep having dinner, enslaved by a materialistic society beholden to your own desires? pfft.

Constitutional Monarchy FTW



Is that Saint John the Baptist as your avatar?
I like that icon!


Saint Jude.

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NVM, yeah its john the baptist.
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Ranwolf wrote:


Jude_Thaddeus wrote:


mxdan wrote:

Yes, because it breads (in my opinion) a harmful philosophy about the role of people. You aren't to pursue your own passions. You're to pursue the states. But who controls the states passions? Well historically, the most fucked up guy out of all of them.


Compared to Democracy which is essentially two wolves and a sheep having dinner, enslaved by a materialistic society beholden to your own desires? pfft.

Constitutional Monarchy FTW



Mate there is no good form of government short of mind controlling every single human being. There are seven and half billion people out there who think there are the most important thing in the world . Furthermore they keep mistaking desires and wants as basic essential needs. They equate their petty lusts as important as the food keeping them alive. They don't get we have to build the house first before we go buying fucking 4k tvs and gaming pcs.


In other words we all agree that plebeians should never be in charge of anything important and that a materialistic society is dangerous? Those are Fascist ideals, but not limited to fascism.

One of my favorite quotes that summarizes it is: Seek freedom and become enslaved to your desires. Seek discipline and you will have your liberty.
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punch your local fascist




Come get some, anime dork.
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Jude_Thaddeus wrote:



In other words we all agree that plebeians should never be in charge of anything important and that a materialistic society is dangerous? Those are Fascist ideals, but not limited to fascism.

One of my favorite quotes that summarizes it is: Seek freedom and become enslaved to your desires. Seek discipline and you will have your liberty.


Actually those are socialist ideals, that fascists just copy and pasted into their doctrine lazy bastards that they are. And I am actually saying no one is fit to be in charge of anything big or small. We are all squabbling children unfit to even be in charge of dressing ourselves let alone running nation states.
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Ranwolf wrote:


Jude_Thaddeus wrote:



In other words we all agree that plebeians should never be in charge of anything important and that a materialistic society is dangerous? Those are Fascist ideals, but not limited to fascism.

One of my favorite quotes that summarizes it is: Seek freedom and become enslaved to your desires. Seek discipline and you will have your liberty.


Actually those are socialist ideals, that fascists just copy and pasted into their doctrine lazy bastards that they are. And I am actually saying no one is fit to be in charge of anything big or small. We are all squabbling children unfit to even be in charge of dressing ourselves let alone running nation states.


Then you support anarchy. Not the idea that most people get when they hear the word anarchy, mayhem and chaos, but essentially tribal governance. A group of elected individuals that decide the course of action for the tribe. No one is chief in charge. Anyone can forward proposals that will direct the path and progress of the tribe.

I use the word tribe, but you can substitute, collective, if you wish.

The only trouble with anarchy is that it only works for small collectives or tribes, and will mean the dissolution of a country, nation state, in order to facilitate, hundreds of thousands of collectives and or tribes.

These collectives and or tribes will then have to negotiate trade deals, water access deals, trade route deals, etc, etc, etc, with other collectives or tribes in order to survive, or they could just engage in tribal warfare to get what they need....
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