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Posted 1/23/17 , edited 1/24/17
He is a white-nationalist which is similar in ideas but not exactly the same as a Nazi label. Still his ideas are very controversial obviously. As far as if its okay, I'd do with the "if provoked" option.
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Posted 1/23/17 , edited 1/24/17
Is it weird that I want to punch a Neo-Nazi more then I want to punch an actual Nazi?

It's one thing to be involved with something terrible. It's a whole other thing to know about it entirely and f*cking sympathize with it.

Posted 1/23/17
Yes. We did a whole lot more to Nazis. And most of them deserved it
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There is nothing to learn about the topic. It's vague and open ended.

If your talking about the guy who got elbowed. My point still stands. I do not have to know who he is only what he was doing. He did not commit any crimes or make threats therefore it was wrong to attack him. I didn't like Hillary but that doesn't give me a right to elbow her in the face and chuck her into a van like a side of beef


Of course we're talking about the guy that got elbowed. Your first step into the topic you clearly went to the link I posted. Which, despite the adept musical choice, gave you both the incident and the name of the person. A quick Google of said person would have answered your first question which in and of itself was already flippant.

That Google search would have unveiled that Is It Okay To Punch A Nazi? is the actual headline many places are using to report and discuss this incident. And that this thread is, by extension, that same debate.

That is why I was criticizing you. You could have answered your own question and clearly you did go look. It also would have saved you some flak when you started talking about "intimidation tactics, bullying, and social manipulation" without knowing who this guy is or what he does. Finally, you chose to make this partisan in nature.

All of this could have been avoided had you thought "I wonder who this Richard Spencer guy is and what happened?".

Also, as a final thought, you said the supposed doxxing of his attacker "popped up" in your "news feed". How did that cross your desk but the original story did not? Plus who puts the Age of Shitlords in their news feed? -.-





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Posted 1/24/17 , edited 1/30/17

mxdan wrote:
Is it weird that I want to punch a Neo-Nazi more then I want to punch an actual Nazi?

It's one thing to be involved with something terrible. It's a whole other thing to know about it entirely and f*cking sympathize with it.


That seems perfectly understandable.

At least those within Germany were already under the Third Reich and insulated from the outside. The modern Neo-Nazi looked at one of the worst chapters in human history and thought "You know, that's not a half bad idea".
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Posted 1/24/17
Depends, but peacefully, no. Perhaps I am too tolerant
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It's never okay to hit someone unless they hit you or you have reasonable belief to think you or someone else is going to be assaulted physically that's the sort of thing you get taught before you even start school. Let people voice their own opinions and when they turn out to be stupid, dangerous or both they'll be seen for what they really are hitting someone just because they disagree with you makes you look worse than them and gives people reason to think the side that struck first is more dangerous especially if they didn't attempt to negotiate. In certain circumstances yes but usually it's not okay.
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That Richard Spencer guy does seem very sketchy, but he literally said he wasn't a Neo-Nazi in the video right before he got punched, so I suspect he's just a victim of the anarchists running amok right now. If he's some kind of Alt-Right trying to find political identity, hopefully becoming a bit more moderate and distancing himself even further from Neo-Nazis, then the whole "Punch the Nazis" argument doesn't really apply.

I mean, if we know he's full of shit and he's not setting things on fire like the other idiots right now, then why the heck assault him over the masked nutjobs throwing bricks at police. Right, because it was just another masked nutjob doing the assault. Felony rioting.


National Policy Institute? He is obviously a Nazi, those Heils and calling Tila Tequila and her Jewish friend who attended the same convention he oversaw racial slurs make it pretty obvious. Trump went out of his way to disavow them.
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Posted 1/24/17 , edited 1/24/17
Without logical and sensible motives, no.
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Without logical and sensible motives, no.


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I wouldn't lose sleep over it if someone did. That said, it's still a crime.
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Posted 1/24/17 , edited 1/24/17
Its ok to punch a Neo Nazi and a Nazi
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Posted 1/24/17 , edited 1/30/17

Rujikin wrote:


runec wrote:


Rujikin wrote:
You people throw around the word facist and NAZI so much no one can actually know what your saying. Why do you bother replying to me with nothing to contribute all of the time.

Oh look now saying the word cuck makes you a NAZI. First sentence proven.


That was even weaker. You've just put yourself in the position of either being a troll or lacking reading comprehension.

Whatever your cunning plan is here I don't think you've thought it all the way through. -.-



All your doing is weak trolling disguised as discussion, why should I give you much effort? You should go read about the SA and the rise of Hitler. Read about their intimidation tactics, bullying, and social manipulation. They are mirroring the regressives. I suppose churchill was right.




Just FYI Winston Churchill didn't say that any more than Abe Lincoln said "Don't trust quotes you got from internet memes"...
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Posted 1/24/17 , edited 1/30/17
Sure they're messed up, but If they haven't physically harmed you then I don't see why you would really.
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This thread is fucking shit when it turns into a motherfucking Left Right Discussion. I don't know who started this but please stop turning morality problems into fucking political dilemmas.
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