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Posted 1/25/17 , edited 1/25/17

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I am still rocking with Windows XP


If you're going to be using Windows, at least go to 7. XP is very insecure. It works if it isn't connected to the Internet, but if you're going to be browsing the web, it's not a good OS to be using. It's a permanently zeroed out OS, meaning you can get infected with a Virus and you'll have no way of knowing.
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Posted 1/25/17 , edited 3/29/17
Windows 10 has gotten so much better in a very short period of time.

Can't go back to W7 now.
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Posted 1/25/17 , edited 3/29/17
>implying you should even be using Windows in 2017

Let's be serious. Windows is only good for gaming because most PC games are not compatible with Linux, but aside from this fact Linux is better than Windows in every conceivable way. That is why I primarily use Linux, and I have no use for Windows other than PC gaming. Same goes for Mac vs Linux. Open-source software, like Linux, is much more reliable than monopolistic crap like Windows or iOS (Macs). Using Close-Source Software, like Windows, is just another way off passively submitting to crappy monopolies like Microsoft.
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Posted 1/25/17 , edited 3/29/17
When I saw the title of 'dangerously insecure', I started worrying about Windows 7's mental state. I mean, it was told that they'd support it for so long, and then apparently they've pretty much abandoned it years before they said they would. That'd affect anyone.
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Posted 1/25/17 , edited 1/26/17
Why wouldn't anyone upgrade to Window 10? Well, I can see the issue that you have to upgrade your ram if you got down to 4gb of ram. My Mother had that problem when she upgraded to Window 10. So she had to take it to the computer shop and they upgraded her Ram Memory up to 12GB.

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Posted 1/26/17 , edited 3/29/17

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Why wouldn't anyone upgrade to Window 10?


No control over updates. Case in point: Windows Anniversary Update.


Win 8 is just fine. Use that. Way faster/safer/better then Win 7... noobs who trash it are just butthurt over the different/absence start menu. Always hated that...
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Posted 1/26/17 , edited 1/26/17
I am still butthurt over windows 10. My file explorer is broken.
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So, Microsoft is admitting that they make shoddy products? Windows ten is just as weak. And now that it's connected to the cloud.... I can only surmise that a shit-ton of people are gonna have their dataz stolen - easy.


with people updating their phones every 1-2 years to keep up with the security patches now a day..

so i guess Microsoft does not like the idea of people still using Windows 7 without upgrading.. to their latest OS..

pretty sure they will cut the support time frame for their OS in the near future.
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Posted 1/26/17 , edited 1/26/17

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>implying you should even be using Windows in 2017

Let's be serious. Windows is only good for gaming because most PC games are not compatible with Linux, but aside from this fact Linux is better than Windows in every conceivable way. That is why I primarily use Linux, and I have no use for Windows other than PC gaming. Same goes for Mac vs Linux. Open-source software, like Linux, is much more reliable than monopolistic crap like Windows or iOS (Macs). Using Close-Source Software, like Windows, is just another way off passively submitting to crappy monopolies like Microsoft.


Although I prefer Linux (Mint ftw) There are several applications in which cannot be processed even with wine that I need for work purposes.
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Posted 1/26/17 , edited 3/29/17
I got windows 10 pro 64 bits and I got control over my updates.
The thing is good and its friendly with power hungers pc like mine
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What they seem to want to gloss over is if you have an older machine that was designed to work with windows 7 your hardware and drivers are not meant to work with Windows 10 and at best will just make your system slower and more glitchy and at worse completely brick your system. This is going to be the major problem with the new business model in general. With past versions if you had an older system you could keep with the OS it came with it and expect it to work reasonably well for the full life of the computer. Now when your computer starts getting older you are going to be forced into whatever updates they are pushing for the current tech of the time and basically be screwed when it inevitably reaches a point where it doesn't like your older hardware/software. This isn't like phone or tablet where everyone is using one specific model with the same hardware that they can tailor updates to.
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TheGrandAlliance wrote:

Win 8 is just fine. Use that. Way faster/safer/better then Win 7... noobs who trash it are just butthurt over the different/absence start menu. Always hated that...


I believe that noobs are actually less likely to trash the Windows 8 Start Screen as they have nothing to compare it to. But if even the noobs are trashing it, that should indicate there's something fundamental about its lack of usability.
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Posted 1/26/17 , edited 1/27/17

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But if even the noobs are trashing it, that should indicate there's something fundamental about its lack of usability.



No, again, as it is absolute proof of their noobishness. If they actually had taken time to learn the new UI; start by deleting everything first, they would realize the time it takes to do things (run tasks) goes way down. One click on a button to start, vs drag mouse here to thus menu, then this menu; o no, overshoot have to restart, o wait there is the shortcut.

Again, the Win 8 screen is genius, but only ones with intellect to appreciate therefore...



And o BTW, how is Windows Update bloat for ya Win 7 ness? Still taking u "12 hours" to run Windows Update? Thought as much...
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staphen wrote:

But if even the noobs are trashing it, that should indicate there's something fundamental about its lack of usability.



No, again, as it is absolute proof of their noobishness. If they actually had taken time to learn the new UI; start by deleting everything first, they would realize the time it takes to do things (run tasks) goes way down. One click on a button to start, vs drag mouse here to thus menu, then this menu; o no, overshoot have to restart, o wait there is the shortcut.

Again, the Win 8 screen is genius, but only ones with intellect to appreciate therefore...



And o BTW, how is Windows Update bloat for ya Win 7 ness? Still taking u "12 hours" to run Windows Update? Thought as much...


Er.. have you ever used Windows 7? The buttons and hotkeys to get to the Start Screen in Windows 8 are exactly the same as they were to open the Start menu in Windows 7. The tiles don't do anything that you couldn't have done already with pins or shortcuts. In my experience, searching for apps on the Start Screen (by typing) is actually significantly slower than it ever was in the Start menu on Windows 7, and it's exacerbated if you have to use RDP because of all the display changes. Plus, despite all that screen real estate, the list of search results tends to actually be a lot shorter. If you try to browse all your apps in Windows 8, you'll find yourself playing a frustrating game of Where's Waldo trying to find what you're looking for. And god forbid you accidentally click on a Metro app.

They actually deployed this crap Start Screen interface on server machines with Windows Server 2012. After dealing with it for several months, the server admin at my workplace started putting Classic Shell on all our servers so we would no longer have to use it. This is not a feature where users just need to give it a chance and they'll get used to it. It's a major design flaw based on the idea that touch screens would become ubiquitous. That didn't happen, and now Microsoft has been forced to backpedal.
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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

DesuMaiden wrote:

>implying you should even be using Windows in 2017

Let's be serious. Windows is only good for gaming because most PC games are not compatible with Linux, but aside from this fact Linux is better than Windows in every conceivable way. That is why I primarily use Linux, and I have no use for Windows other than PC gaming. Same goes for Mac vs Linux. Open-source software, like Linux, is much more reliable than monopolistic crap like Windows or iOS (Macs). Using Close-Source Software, like Windows, is just another way off passively submitting to crappy monopolies like Microsoft.


Windows 8.1 is far better for handwriting support. This is what I use for Japanese practice and note-taking.
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