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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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And then reported it to media outlets and posted it all over social media so he could get some self-gratification.

yeah . . . it does feel a lot like a deliberate pr move on behalf of trump supporters honestly. but even if i look at it in the least cynical way possible, it's just a well-intentioned but kind of stupid guy who seems to have spent his life in a white conservative bubble and doesn't understand or care about the reality that exists outside of it

i'm not saying that what he did was somehow wrong. i just don't like the idea here that a trump supporter doing something nice should mean "maybe they're all actually good people with valid opinions and we should turn a blind eye to the fuckload of bad stuff they're directly responsible for"


So lets start "has spent his life in a white conservative bubble" way to marginalize a group already, just cause of race and political ideology +2 since y'know this is so wrong to apparently be white, or have any beliefs. Before you even actually respond think hard if someone said the same thing about any OTHER group, you'd be called out a racist so should I call YOU out on this I feel its only fair as it is discrimination to marginalize ANY group for ANY reason.

So now lets look at how "good people are" since y'know you imply anyone that is against Trump apparently is "good." We'll ignore the violent riot that was at the heart of our capitol that, attacked police, destroyed property, set fires, and attacked opposing view points. If you honestly feel that is what constitutes good, then you need to gain a new comprehension of what good is. Because lets be honest we can just ignore all the "Good" aspects of the opposing vote and say "Look at how they all riot they are destroying the city and attacking the police!" Paints a great picture right? Didn't think so.

Suure you can say "Oh well he wants to stop refugees" or "he hates mexicans" but lets be honest, at the end of the day NONE of that has actually destroyed property, psychically attacked people, and costed the US in hundreds of man hours for police to cease violence and destruction. At the end of the day, all you got with this "Oh well this is what he said on Twitter, News, Etc" but he has not actually DONE anything to anyone. We can find videos for days showing Trump supporters getting set on fire, physically attacked, property damaged, riots, and so on. You can't find the inverse.

So before you paint the "Oh Trump supporters are ignorant and hate everyone" be sure to not ignore the sheer lack of tolerance or well any degree of human decency that has been displayed by the opposing views.

Not sure if I can agree with that logic. Plenty of assholes on Trump's side as well. The National Policy Institute, for one. I feel this is drifting dangerously close to cherry picking and stereotyping of the left (Some of which is deserved, but to paint a side as a monolithic entity is a pretty dangerous argument to use) as well as a glorification of Trump supporters. The best way to gain credibility is to admit faults with both sides and go out vigorously to condemn them while staying tolerant of their right to speak. (Freedom of speech does not protect them from my words criticizing theirs.)

Perhaps what is most disturbing about CR is the lack of response from several conservative users towards Amyas and his bullshit racism, from his "Chimpout" comment to characterizing the difference between blacks and whites as those of different species.
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Not all of you, just the majority. Maybe they thought she was cute, certainly adds some $$ to my tips.


Majority, based on what? Cause majority of Trump supporters I know are pretty chill.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/01/24/not-race-not-gender-just-american-these-white-men-left-their-black-waitress-an-uplifting-note-and-a-450-tip/?utm_term=.82f66ca05126#comments


that was very nice, goes to show not all of us are racist,

yet people still cant say anything nice about a nice story, looking at the comments


Would it help if EVERY news story identified which candidate the subject voted for three months ago, so we could know from the outside which side of the moral concentration-camp fence to put them on?
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It's everywhere.. I guess even on this forums

I think the media and most people online will start to have withdraw symptoms if they don't talk/post about Trump for 1 week.

it can be a challenge or something


...what? The people online thing I can follow but why would the media not talk about Trump for an entire week? I really don't think that's something they usually do to presidents.
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My daughter (10 years old) asked me last night if the press is bullying the new President. She than asked me - if she did what the press is doing to the President to another student - if she would get in trouble. I told I don't know? She has a point...Maybe that behavior is OK now?


Apparently, it is, and Trump is called a "crybaby" for standing up to the bullies. Funny, schoolyard bullies do the same thing, calling kids crybabies whenever they backtalk. In this day, we need to be prepared to talk back to people when they unfairly smear us.


"Bullies"? ...you're kidding right? Who the hell is "bullying" Trump? Off the top of my head the things I remember Trump whining about most clearly are being lampooned in SNL and the cast of Hamilton speaking about their concerns.

Saturday Night Live performs satire, and they do it for just about every president since they started airing. I honestly don't know why people are acting like it's some kind of horrible biased thing for SNL to mock Trump even though both they and SNL have been doing the same exact thing to the Clintons for decades. Here's a thought: maybe if Trump doesn't like being criticised, he should take the criticism and learn from it. The will of the people and all that.

As for Hamilton, do I even need to explain that? I would assume I do based on my experience with this forum, but I really don't have the energy right now to go into detail about why being mad about people stating a different opinion politely and respectfully might make one look thin skinned.
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So you are saying we get to enjoy these salty libtard tears for at least 4 years say it isn't so, we get to enjoy these lapses from reality. Just to top it off they get to prove how incredibly stupid they really are. PS popcorn and a tear jar please.


You know, the whole "liberal tears" thing really loses whatever meaning you think it had given that the president has done nothing but insufferably cry and whine like a child since his inauguration. If you need a tear jar, perhaps you should stop by the White House.


As I put it on another site, the more that Trump supporters troll "Huhuh, the liberals are crying rivers because our president is so successful!" every time there's public censure of him, the MORE they sound like Star Wars nerds at a convention saying "Huhuh, they hate us because they envy our Epic Coolness..."
Yyyyyy-yeah.


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My daughter (10 years old) asked me last night if the press is bullying the new President. She than asked me - if she did what the press is doing to the President to another student - if she would get in trouble. I told I don't know? She has a point...Maybe that behavior is OK now?


No, she's picking up on words she hears everywhere, and trying to get it explained in school-age kid-news context. And she'd be correct.


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Kavalion wrote:Apparently, it is, and Trump is called a "crybaby" for standing up to the bullies. Funny, schoolyard bullies do the same thing, calling kids crybabies whenever they backtalk. In this day, we need to be prepared to talk back to people when they unfairly smear us.


"Bullies"? ...you're kidding right? Who the hell is "bullying" Trump? Off the top of my head the things I remember Trump whining about most clearly are being lampooned in SNL and the cast of Hamilton speaking about their concerns.

Saturday Night Live performs satire, and they do it for just about every president since they started airing. I honestly don't know why people are acting like it's some kind of horrible biased thing for SNL to mock Trump even though both they and SNL have been doing the same exact thing to the Clintons for decades. Here's a thought: maybe if Trump doesn't like being criticised, he should take the criticism and learn from it. The will of the people and all that.


And not only that, bullies--in the aforementioned 10-yo. school context--DO tend to back off and defensively start taking some moral high ground about "Hey, you're not allowed to do that, I'm telling the authorities, and you're so gonna be in trouble for that!" when they pick on the wrong target and someone with no natural propensity for fear hits back.
(And then strategically move on to lesser/newer virgin targets that don't, for the same reason Al-Qaeda started going after London and Paris after we kicked their post-9/11 hinders.)
Bullies want to establish their own image as high-ranking in the pecking order, and don't have much to fall back on if even that is taken away by their inability to hold on to it.

And how many Trump fans laughed themselves silly on the net when Hillary would be the victim of Kate McKinnon sketches, because she was "getting what she deserved"? And the real Hilary did appear in sketches with her doppelgänger, just like Don did early on...Once.
Posted 1/27/17
Well, this thread went exactly as I predicted it would (in my first response).
I suppose .. nothing I say is going to really deviate the topic from "this was a staged act of kindness" or "liberal tears are the best" (troll posts) ..... so..

Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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Perhaps what is most disturbing about CR is the lack of response from several conservative users towards Amyas and his bullshit racism, from his "Chimpout" comment to characterizing the difference between blacks and whites as those of different species.


Confronting someone with that kind of thinking is like trying to squeeze blood from a rock. Although I cannot personally confirm who those supposed conservatives are, much less, if they agree with Amyas, I do know that arguing with him, in general, is easily a herculean task. If you've got the stamina, go for it, but... Yeah. Have fun.
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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Perhaps what is most disturbing about CR is the lack of response from several conservative users towards Amyas and his bullshit racism, from his "Chimpout" comment to characterizing the difference between blacks and whites as those of different species.


Confronting someone with that kind of thinking is like trying to squeeze blood from a rock. Although I cannot personally confirm who those supposed conservatives are, much less, if they agree with Amyas, I do know that arguing with him, in general, is easily a herculean task. If you've got the stamina, go for it, but... Yeah. Have fun.


There is no point whatsoever in engaging Amyas. Arguing with him only makes him harder and since its virtually impossible to get permabanned from here it doesn't matter how awful he is. He's always going to come back. Like herpes.






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Apparently, it is, and Trump is called a "crybaby" for standing up to the bullies. Funny, schoolyard bullies do the same thing, calling kids crybabies whenever they backtalk. In this day, we need to be prepared to talk back to people when they unfairly smear us.


He's quite literally the most powerful man on the planet. Even putting aside his long, long, long history of being an insufferable bully himself to say its "bullying" because the most powerful man on the planet doesn't think he's been praised enough is ridiculous.

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To the OP even if staged... the difference he made to that woman's life is no joke. I live just outside of Seattle and $450 would be a game change for most wait staff even in high end restaurants. Not sure why his presidential choice has anything to do with the article or why the media even acknowledged it.... but hey its the hot topic atm. In the interest of full disclosure I voted for Trump. Not because I believed in all his ideologies but rather I am sick of seeing life long politicians line their pockets and ruin this country any further. Personally I think both candidates were either crooks or idiots but unfortunately we all have to pick who we feel is the lesser of the two evils.
I would like to think that nobody seriously considers me a racist/bigot/ ect because of how I voted. However I live in the US where we all can have an opinion and for the most part not fear death of myself or family because of it. So if being called an idiot, ect is the price I pay so be it. If you voted for Trump cross your fingers he can make a positive change in the next few years or we are back to politicians. If you voted for Hillary then not sure why your so upset. Impeachment on the basis of a vote of no confidence is not difficult if he ends up to really be a bumbling idiot. Hope all of you enjoy your day and regardless of who you voted for strive excellence in your daily life.
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Majority, based on what? Cause majority of Trump supporters I know are pretty chill.


Ah, so the handful of people that you may know is a good sample size to you? You are 100% certain that none of them harbor any resentment towards Hispanics (Since you are in CA) or any other group of people that they may just be smart enough not to say it out loud?


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/87591b8430ed499199427e14df172961
I know you are young, but I can tell you it is 1000x easier to find stories like this right now than this apparent act of kindness. Though it is my personal opinion that if someone actually does something to be kind they shouldn't contact the news outlets and post it on social media; that just takes some of the genuineness out of it. However, redokami and others like her took the bait and will no doubt ignore stories like the one I posted.
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Majority, based on what? Cause majority of Trump supporters I know are pretty chill.


Ah, so the handful of people that you may know is a good sample size to you? You are 100% certain that none of them harbor any resentment towards Hispanics (Since you are in CA) or any other group of people that they may just be smart enough not to say it out loud?


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/87591b8430ed499199427e14df172961
I know you are young, but I can tell you it is 1000x easier to find stories like this right now than this apparent act of kindness. Though it is my personal opinion that if someone actually does something to be kind they shouldn't contact the news outlets and post it on social media; that just takes some of the genuineness out of it. However, redokami and others like her took the bait and will no doubt ignore stories like the one I posted.


Wasn't saying it was a good sample size, just stating what I know off personal experience since I wasn't sure exactly what you're basing your claim off of. And that none of them hold any resentment towards any group? I'm not sure I can say they resent anyone, but I do know two that think lowly of some other groups. One does think lowly of Hispanics quite a bit, which is disappointing, and the other is just blatantly racist against everyone. But that's why I said majority of the ones I know, definitely not all.

I'll read that article sometime later, don't wanna go grab my glasses at the moment. I'll say this though, I agree about doing some "kindness" and then posting it for others to see. It does make it seem like you just want some attention and/or to be praised. It's somewhat difficult to believe one did it only due to the kindness in their heart when they pull a stunt like that.
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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/01/24/not-race-not-gender-just-american-these-white-men-left-their-black-waitress-an-uplifting-note-and-a-450-tip/?utm_term=.82f66ca05126#comments


that was very nice, goes to show not all of us are racist,

yet people still cant say anything nice about a nice story, looking at the comments


That's cool what they did. I wish more Trump supporters were like that.

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trump is (allegedly) an adult, who continues to antagonize and insult the media over trivial things. how do you even make this comparison without stopping to cringe at the words you're typing?


Give me a break. What the media has been doing for years is wrong and detrimental to the country. They have not practiced professional journalism and they should probably receive some kind of punishment, honestly.
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limeparadox wrote:
trump is (allegedly) an adult, who continues to antagonize and insult the media over trivial things. how do you even make this comparison without stopping to cringe at the words you're typing?


Give me a break. What the media has been doing for years is wrong and detrimental to the country. They have not practiced professional journalism and they should probably receive some kind of punishment, honestly.


So you're for banning of Freedom of the Press? I don't like the press for a million reasons during this election cycle, but goddamn man, we don't live in North fucking Korea.


And to think I had one iota of hope there for a second for CR....
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