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Posted 1/27/17

Nogara-san wrote:That's cool what they did. I wish more Trump supporters were like that.

pretty much. not just the tip, but also his message of reconciliation.

also, i wonder how many of those accusing of an ulterior motive for the $450 tip would honestly be willing to tip as much. i'm guessing, not many. but of course, that doesn't stop people from complaining. i mean, there's no way someone that supports Trump would actually be willing to try and mend relations at the cost of their own money, right?. even if a Trump supporter were to donate a BMW to a family that can't afford a car, they would still accuse the rich supporter as either being ignorant or having some sort of prejudice against said family. all the while refusing to make similar acts of kindness.
Posted 1/27/17

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Give me a break. What the media has been doing for years is wrong and detrimental to the country. They have not practiced professional journalism and they should probably receive some kind of punishment, honestly.


This is, in part, due to the fact that we glorify those who are in high positions and/or celebrities. As time progressed, we've reached the point where we want to know more about someone that we're likely never to meet just because they're either wealthy, popular, or powerful. This isn't just a "Western civilization" issue - it happens even more frequently in places like China, Japan, Taiwan, etc etc... - it's kind of how our society has been driven for a while.

I would agree with that statement quite strongly. Though, I can't overlook the idea that if you were to obtain any of these things (power, wealth, or popularity) that you should have already been well-aware of the spotlight that's shone into the deepest corners of your life. It's a "known" expectation by both the people who advocate this practice and the "victims" of said practice.

In reference to Trump, specifically, he's been under the public eye for quite a while now (between "Celebrity Apprentice", Miss USA/Universe pageants, and various film/television cameos) and has actually advocated people to dig into his life. He's not been one to turn away an interview, cameo, or otherwise as long as it's something that helped his brand identity. Now that he's President of the United States, which has been a "closely watched" position by not just citizens of the United States but the entire world (to some degree) - he should have been fully aware as to what he was getting himself into; especially as an advocate of "publicity" practices.

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I agree that we shouldn't be so fixated on focusing on the person behind the position but the actions of the person while in said position. But you can't say that Trump hasn't advocated being in front of the spotlight in the past. Now that he's under a microscope, he's starting to act irrationally. Society has this expectation of those in power/wealth/popularity - Trump knew this and should probably accept it and move on (by ignoring the press entirely).
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Nogara-san wrote:That's cool what they did. I wish more Trump supporters were like that.

pretty much. not just the tip, but also his message of reconciliation.

also, i wonder how many of those accusing of an ulterior motive for the $450 tip would honestly be willing to tip as much. i'm guessing, not many. but of course, that doesn't stop people from complaining. i mean, there's no way someone that supports Trump would actually be willing to try and mend relations at the cost of their own money, right?. even if a Trump supporter were to donate a BMW to a family that can't afford a car, they would still accuse the rich supporter as either being ignorant or having some sort of prejudice against said family. all the while refusing to make similar acts of kindness.



I saw this reaction on a lot of other sites actually...and I'm thinking, 'What happened to just being nice?!'

I mean, damn y'all....like you said, most of these people bitching or saying it's some kind racial affront probably wouldn't do so. What do these people want, someone to go off on this girl like they have in a few Starbucks?
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It's everywhere.. I guess even on this forums

I think the media and most people online will start to have withdraw symptoms if they don't talk/post about Trump for 1 week.

it can be a challenge or something


...what? The people online thing I can follow but why would the media not talk about Trump for an entire week? I really don't think that's something they usually do to presidents.


Did obama got this much coverage during his presidency ?

it's a widespread obsession now.

Posted 1/27/17

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Did obama got this much coverage during his presidency ?

it's a widespread obsession now.



Actually, yeah, he did. Obama was under the microscope for every small thing he did for his first term. This is kind of how it always goes - first few months, you're confronted with an endless array of articles about the new POTUS and what they're doing right/wrong. Trump is getting more criticism than positive articles by mainstream media because they're being "attacked" by his stance on "fake news". You know it's bad when even the conservative-right news organization (Fox) defends the so-called "fake news" of the liberal-left organization (CNN). They're worried that Trump will continue to attack them and determine who is/isn't "worthy" of his information.
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dulun18 wrote:
Did obama got this much coverage during his presidency ?



Yes, yes he did.

Glad we could establish that.

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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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Perhaps what is most disturbing about CR is the lack of response from several conservative users towards Amyas and his bullshit racism, from his "Chimpout" comment to characterizing the difference between blacks and whites as those of different species.


Confronting someone with that kind of thinking is like trying to squeeze blood from a rock. Although I cannot personally confirm who those supposed conservatives are, much less, if they agree with Amyas, I do know that arguing with him, in general, is easily a herculean task. If you've got the stamina, go for it, but... Yeah. Have fun.


I'm not advocating arguing, I am arguing for at least some reaction regarding his most virulent posts. I am not saying they agree on Amyas on those issues, but are rather apathetic or cutting him some slack because of he generally supports conservative views nonetheless. I have a hard time imagining that the posters who are more leftwing are the only ones responding to him because the left lacks self control here. It is not so much I am trying to piss on these forumers as well as tell them that tolerance and acceptance aren't the same thing.

I would also argue that silence might be a form of passive consent, but that is another time. In any case, I suppose you are right to an extent. For all I know, they are just that mature to leave alone a ticking time bomb.


And for the sake of argument, this is why a lot of leading black lives matter advocacy groups appear to be silent on the issue of violence among protesters I believe.

Also, just to mention, these forumers are the main reasons why a safe space discord thread went to hell.
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The media should be more accurate before putting it out there.. they have lost respects at least with me and my family.
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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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I can see why people would see this as a negative thing. Some of the comments I read seemed to focus on the fact that since it was a credit card purchase that he could claim it was a bogus bill to challenge the authorization of said payment - which is somewhat flawed by the same principle as to why I can see why some would dispute its "legitimacy" ... He came out and straight out told the news what he had done. Doing so should have silenced the naysayers regarding the credit card usage but would place him under the spotlight for having done something like this (both good and bad).

Americans haven't been about "feel good" stories in quite a long while, unfortunately. I remember when a few people would go around the DC Metro area and leave behind rather rare coins for people to find (even giving hints on social media at times, anonymously). In the end, people assumed that they were trying to advertise something or make money off of it in some way or another. Ultimately, all they were trying to do was give back to the community - nothing more, nothing less. Each coin was worth anywhere between $800 to $15,000 and people found them all. Yet, it was seen "negatively".

Politically driven "we're not all <insert thing>" stories have more of a charge for and against. At the end of the day, not all Trump supporters are "racists/bigots" and not all Democrats are "SJW libtards/snowflakes". That's the reality of it when it boils down to it.


I have nothing against the story... What I have against this is one is bringing politics into a kind act... and two, using one person as a model for everyone. You need a much bigger sample size before you can start making assumptions.

Edit: If we really want to go into it, we can go into the good deeds done by Hitler voters, by Kim Jong Un followers, etc. To me "Trump supporter" and "Tip" are just apples to oranges.

Edit 2: I wont deny it was a nice thing for them to do. But I reiterate that using 1 person to make a sweeping assumption is foolish.
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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

Dark_Alma wrote [...] using one person as a model for everyone. You need a much bigger sample size before you can start making assumptions.


But that was his point...
Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

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I have nothing against the story... What I have against this is one is bringing politics into a kind act... and two, using one person as a model for everyone. You need a much bigger sample size before you can start making assumptions.


Yeah, but seeing as the person who gave the donation stated that was under the impression of political discord made it into a political thing. Then people ran with a small amount of information. The assumptions of supporters/non-supporters alike tend to run deep, real deep. It's something that will continue until there's some type of unity - but it's not going to happen in the next four years (or the next twelve), at least that's how I see it.

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As octorockandroll said - my whole point in that response was that there should be more of a diverse understanding that "not all..<insert> are <insert adjective>". I knew this thread would simply turn into an "us versus them" with those types of assumptions because that's kind of how the politically charged topics end up going on Crunchyroll.
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Dark_Alma wrote:

I have nothing against the story... What I have against this is one is bringing politics into a kind act... and two, using one person as a model for everyone. You need a much bigger sample size before you can start making assumptions.


Yeah, but seeing as the person who gave the donation stated that was under the impression of political discord made it into a political thing. Then people ran with a small amount of information. The assumptions of supporters/non-supporters alike tend to run deep, real deep. It's something that will continue until there's some type of unity - but it's not going to happen in the next four years (or the next twelve), at least that's how I see it.


I don't see unity in the USA happening for a good time. China is pissed at the USA (so in turn Chinese Americans). Mexico is pissed at the USA (so Mexican Americans), Germany has given up hope on the USA (as well as most of Northern Europe, I fit in here, German and American citizen).

This is the most divided I have seen the USA since I started following politics 13 years ago (not long, but long enough). I mean, there wer protest marches that were 3+ times bigger than the inauguration crowd. That shows one hell of a divide that will need to be patched. Burning bridges doesn't help a lot...
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Dark_Alma wrote [...] using one person as a model for everyone. You need a much bigger sample size before you can start making assumptions.


But that was his point...


Makes me want to talk about Simpson's Paradox. That paradox blew my fucking mind and shows how easily you can manipulate data to fit what you want to see. GIS (Geographic Information Systems) really shows you how to do all this stuff and more. Scary, yet fun.
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Perhaps what is most disturbing about CR is the lack of response from several conservative users towards Amyas and his bullshit racism, from his "Chimpout" comment to characterizing the difference between blacks and whites as those of different species.


I can't really speak as a true conservative (I lean that way now, but I believe that a form of socialism is best for the future) since I'm an independent, but I will say that I try my best to ignore extreme posts from either side.

"Don't feed the trolls."
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Posted 1/27/17 , edited 1/27/17

Dark_Alma wrote:


ninjitsuko wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:

I have nothing against the story... What I have against this is one is bringing politics into a kind act... and two, using one person as a model for everyone. You need a much bigger sample size before you can start making assumptions.


Yeah, but seeing as the person who gave the donation stated that was under the impression of political discord made it into a political thing. Then people ran with a small amount of information. The assumptions of supporters/non-supporters alike tend to run deep, real deep. It's something that will continue until there's some type of unity - but it's not going to happen in the next four years (or the next twelve), at least that's how I see it.


I don't see unity in the USA happening for a good time. China is pissed at the USA (so in turn Chinese Americans). Mexico is pissed at the USA (so Mexican Americans), Germany has given up hope on the USA (as well as most of Northern Europe, I fit in here, German and American citizen).

This is the most divided I have seen the USA since I started following politics 13 years ago (not long, but long enough). I mean, there wer protest marches that were 3+ times bigger than the inauguration crowd. That shows one hell of a divide that will need to be patched. Burning bridges doesn't help a lot...


I am not sure that is accurate reasoning. While I feel kinship with my homeland, I can't say I agree with the Government there.
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