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Posted 1/27/17

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Sorry peripheral as much as you want to think free healthcare is free.
Its not someone is paying for it.


no it's paid by taxes paid by everyone.
that's how societies work together.
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It has moved to the time where it should be considered a right.
Now where i live it's a right everyone is entitled to ...to not have it as a right just shows backwardness imo.



And that is whats wrong with this world. The sense of entitlement everyone has that stuff should just be given to them.
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no it's paid by taxes paid by everyone.
that's how societies work together.

Read the previous posts. I was clarifying that free healthcare isnt free.
Your still young, have a lot of learning to do that cannot be taught from books.
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AkatsukiDoc wrote:

It has moved to the time where it should be considered a right.
Now where i live it's a right everyone is entitled to ...to not have it as a right just shows backwardness imo.



And that is whats wrong with this world. The sense of entitlement everyone has that stuff should just be given to them.



IT's not about entitlement it's about advancement in society one of the reason i hate America is how selfish everyone is with the "I don't want to pay for the healthcare of others" Attitude they have.

They focus on the individual over the group and are so selfish.
As society advances things that used to be hard to have should become things everyone has a right to.







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We had healthcare for those who couldnt afford it. i was on it. its called medicaid until Obama totally messed up our healthcare system.

And once you have the Federal Government take control of the healthcare system, they have the most private information about you that should just be between you and your doctor.

Its not about healthcare for everyone, its about control.


Yet many of my friends in America could not afford healthcare or get the help they needed.
They could not seek mental health help because they had no money etc

No one should have to suffer just because they can't afford healthcare.
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National Conservatism seems to be the most ideal form of government. Countries straying from that have grown more and more stagnant in every sense, relying entirely on a global leader to handle important issues.
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Yeah americans are so selfish right.

How many millions of people would die if it was not for our Charity.

I am glad i dont live in your shit country. If it wasnt for us you would be speaking German.

I also find it Bullshit about you knowing people here who need mental health care. Your just saying that to further your opinion

And whats wrong with me not wanting my tax dollars to fund abortions.
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AkatsukiDoc wrote:

Yeah americans are so selfish right.

How many millions of people would die if it was not for our Charity.

I am glad i dont live in your shit country. If it wasnt for us you would be speaking German.

I also find it Bullshit about you knowing people here who need mental health care. Your just saying that to further your opinion

And whats wrong with me not wanting my tax dollars to fund abortions.



Stop giving to charity and start giving universal healthcare to your own citizens.
My country isn't shit its very good.

Also excuse me i have Many depressed friends and even an Autistic friend in America who can't get the help they need.
Your tax dollars should fund health and the betterment of society think about others and not just yourself friend.

Would you rather those people have children then have them be a drain on society and cost your country even more because you couldn't help but whine that your taxes weren't being spent on things that only impact you.

You can't judge my country and call it shit when you live in America buddy
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Hey mxdan. if they are so great why dont you move to one of those countries.

Why does everyone sacrifice everything they have to try to get here.

Capitalism is what ended making everyone on earth free.

When you have corrupted politicians like we have had that turns capitalism into crony capitalism.

Trying to compare one of the Scandinavian Countries to the US is comparing apples to oranges


Ok so there are a couple issues with what you just said and I'm on my phone so I'll try and be brief.

First off a person doesn't have to hate something to be critical of it. Do you think food critics hate food? No, they are critical of it cause they love it.

Second off you are completely out of touch with what it means to relocate countries in today's age. You don't have to 'sacrifice everything' to come here. My school is loaded with rich Chinese visas who sacrificed almost nothing but time to get here.

third are you talking about the French Revolution? Because that ended in pretty much anarchy. Elective diplomacy made it harder to be in a corrupt society but not exempt. It needs an educated public to work. Something that is falling by the wayside everyday in America.

I think you are confusing a 'better' society with an 'ideal'. An ideal society is one that has few flaws. We are in a great society but not an ideal one.

Please explain to me your definition of Crony Capitalism..?
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Kavalion wrote:

National Conservatism seems to be the most ideal form of government. Countries straying from that have grown more and more stagnant in every sense, relying entirely on a global leader to handle important issues.


National Conservatism. You mean a far-right wing government with a strong focus on nationalism? A few more key elements and you have yourself a standard fascist rule.
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*Gets out his lawnchair and grabs the popcorn*
Ooooh. Dis gonna be good!
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Then you still run into the issue of the willfully ignorant. Those who choose not to pursue any higher education, and don't really follow politics, or look too deeply into what is being said or read anything. These type of people will exist no matter the quality of education available.

While a direct democracy may work for someplace like Switzerland, the world isn't Switzerland, and a fair amount of stupid people tend to live in America.



Yeah the majority of stupid people in America are KIDS between the ages of 18 and 30 that get indoctrinated by liberal high schools and colleges that teach opinions and not facts


I really can't tell if you're being serious or not. To which "opinions" do you refer? Evolution? Climate change? Observable economic realities? The water cycle?

Are there misinformed liberals out there, yes. But it is nowhere near as bad as the Neo-conservative bollocks that got a man like Trump elected.

Now, unlike most people my big gripe with Trump isn't his social policies, because those are easily reversible once he leaves office. The issues I have with him are his blatant conflicts of interest, the fact that some of his choices for cabinet members are illegal (you can't be fundamentally against the office you wish to take), the fact that four years of Trump energy policy will have irreversible effects on the environment (I'm a bleeding heart liberal that believes that the planet should be inhabitable), and the fact the he will most likely have negative effects on our economy and our relationships with other nations.
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Crony Capitalism.

Solyndra enough said
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You can't judge my country and call it shit when you live in America buddy


Remember that thread you made where you were angry about the US cutting off trade with Aussie land? You call the US shit, but seem to rely on trade with us so much.
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Posted 2/3/17

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Ryulightorb wrote:


You can't judge my country and call it shit when you live in America buddy


Remember that thread you made where you were angry about the US cutting off trade with Aussie land? You call the US shit, but seem to rely on trade with us so much.


Yes we do rely on you for trade that doesn't mean America doesn't have shit policies and ways of functioning.
We rely on every country for trade since its impossible for us to create everything we need :).

Still my point stands you can't say shit about Australia when America has just as much as if more problems.
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