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So, I am a noob at both cosplay and fashion. What I would like to consider is, at which point do the clothing in anime consider to be a fashion or where is the current trend of western fashion based off of. And at which point is the clothing considered cosplay. In the idea that cosplay clothing would be qualified for eastern fashion, but well most of the cosplay clothing might be westernized as well. That the style, the ideas, and the essence. Feel free to let me know what you think

Posted 1/29/17 , edited 1/29/17

Oh, this is in advice so I should say something more.
I think cosplay is an attempt to reproduce the "look" of the character and to bring it to 'life'.
While fashion is inspired by the character or the source in general without looking like a copy.
However a lot of character designs are inspired by clothes in the real world or period and so have a fashion of their own.
A cosplay of an anime character set in edo Japan wearing a traditional kimono would be a very meta.
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Oh, this is in advice so I should say something more.
I think cosplay is an attempt to reproduce the "look" of the character and to bring it to 'life'.
While fashion is inspired by the character or the source in general without looking like a copy.
However a lot of character designs are inspired by clothes in the real world or period and so have a fashion of their own.
A cosplay of an anime character set in edo Japan wearing a traditional kimono would be a very meta.


I looked into the eastern fashion about clothes, and I must say it is behind by a few hundred years. Who is to say we need to wear a tie? Who is to say we need to wear a ribbon? Those are all passed on for hundreds of years in the western world. Pretty interesting concept. Kimono is only worn in formal occasions, so if we make the kimono more casual, more modern like, then it could work, probably like those in Touhou. Well we also need people to adapt to the looks and by having fashion all around extreme fashions would appear. I must say I have not seen an Asian brand fashion store that is widely popular. And with extreme fashions would come clothing in different materials, more durable, more temperature friendly. I dunno where this would lead to, I just thought Asian style clothing should also be modernized. Cosplay clothing is never worn in real life, most people find it embarassing? I am not sure. But school girl clothing works apart from it being adapted from a uniform. I thought it could be a basis on where Asian clothing is built on, but even then uniform seems to be originated from Britain, so well, maybe I should not complain so much

P.S We are trying to give the fashion an Asian look by giving Chinese designs, but even then simple shapes and design like those in the western world is more accepted, at least superior in looks and material. We could technically create simple shapes and design on clothes and call it an Asian brand store, well, I wonder if that would be popular
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I think standard clothing around the world is largely, well, standardized and is fairly western. You don't see traditional clothing often just out on the streets or in office spaces in most places, not just in Japan. "Strange" clothing is pretty much always relegated to sub cultures and "old" clothing is pretty much always relegated to "old people" where ever you go, but those are two elements that are found fairly often and fairly easily within Japan. Even in the heart of Tokyo today it's not hard to come across older ladies wearing kimono.

It's easy to point out something from a runway show and say that it's fashion, and it is, but it's runway fashion. There really isn't ever any intention even by the designer of seeing most of that stuff out in the real world. It's more like a wearable art piece that expresses certain themes or intentions than actual clothing. The actual clothing that a designer creates is almost never all that far off from what you already see as everyday wear but just with a tweak or change for either aesthetic or functional reasons.
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I think standard clothing around the world is largely, well, standardized and is fairly western. You don't see traditional clothing often just out on the streets or in office spaces in most places, not just in Japan. "Strange" clothing is pretty much always relegated to sub cultures and "old" clothing is pretty much always relegated to "old people" where ever you go, but those are two elements that are found fairly often and fairly easily within Japan. Even in the heart of Tokyo today it's not hard to come across older ladies wearing kimono.

It's easy to point out something from a runway show and say that it's fashion, and it is, but it's runway fashion. There really isn't ever any intention even by the designer of seeing most of that stuff out in the real world. It's more like a wearable art piece that expresses certain themes or intentions than actual clothing. The actual clothing that a designer creates is almost never all that far off from what you already see as everyday wear but just with a tweak or change for either aesthetic or functional reasons.


Alright, my bad for wanting to have the traditional outfit modernized. Cotton, wool, and silk are overpriced. I use the material and I build the clothes with some color for dyes, nothing special and I can sell them for a lot of money with a brand name. Well I appreciate the work placed into it to build the design. There is a lack of brands in the eastern world in terms of clothing. But this is in terms of the brand, an Asian brand can come up with good designs with cotton, wool, and silk and make an original fashion to build a clothing that would sell for just as much money with the big brands. Well as much as Asian brand can also come up with good design, my emphasis is that the price of cotton, wool and silk should be lowered. Since they are not as labor intensive for clothing, yes I want to keep the shoes expensive and they are labor intensive and I appreciate the handy work that is placed into it. With a more competitive market, more variety of clothing materials would be used and fashion would be more creative. Since creating clothing is an automated process. That hopefully shouldn't be the last time I impact the American market = =, yes I am an American. Here in Taiwan we purchase clothes like Hang Ten and other brands etc. Giving is taking and competition brings out better things. May the odds be ever in your favor. Fashion would brain storm more, more Asian clothing stores would enter the market, more jobs, more variety, everything. American brands probably would hate me, it is all about style, clothes would be more specialized, different materials would be used. Well I cannot predict the outcome, I think it is a win win, western clothing is still superior at this point in terms of dyeing technology and fashion, guess the eastern world got some catching up to do
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I think you're quite right. There are elements both certainly in style but also in function where an Eastern influence would be beneficial. I find the extreme blandness of the adoption of westernized clothing across the world to be not only boring visually but potentially limiting as well. I do wish there were more mainstream options out there that pushed the envelope in terms of actual wearable clothing and not just pushing out "freaky" stuff on the runway only to make their standard clothing completely "normal." I'm not sure what the answer is though given the acceptance of westernized clothing being the standard. If you were to open a store that sold largely traditionally Eastern influenced clothing, I think it would unfortunately be seen as a "costume" shop unless the Eastern elements were toned down to the point where it was unrecognizable, and I imagine that would be the case both inside and outside of the East. The best you might be able to hope for is to tap into or create a subculture.

I do think that starting with using more traditional Eastern textiles and prints may be a good place to at least get a foot in the door but you would then have to be mindful of not being kitsch or even offensive to Eastern viewpoints. It would be a tough rope to walk.
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StriderShinryu wrote:


fredreload wrote:


StriderShinryu wrote:




Oh, don't get me wrong, I think you're quite right. There are elements both certainly in style but also in function where an Eastern influence would be beneficial. I find the extreme blandness of the adoption of westernized clothing across the world to be not only boring visually but potentially limiting as well. I do wish there were more mainstream options out there that pushed the envelope in terms of actual wearable clothing and not just pushing out "freaky" stuff on the runway only to make their standard clothing completely "normal." I'm not sure what the answer is though given the acceptance of westernized clothing being the standard. If you were to open a store that sold largely traditionally Eastern influenced clothing, I think it would unfortunately be seen as a "costume" shop unless the Eastern elements were toned down to the point where it was unrecognizable, and I imagine that would be the case both inside and outside of the East. The best you might be able to hope for is to tap into or create a subculture.

I do think that starting with using more traditional Eastern textiles and prints may be a good place to at least get a foot in the door but you would then have to be mindful of not being kitsch or even offensive to Eastern viewpoints. It would be a tough rope to walk.


Well what I meant to say is, for example, let's get down to the basics, T-shirt. Both eastern and western worlds are capable of creating T-shirts with possibly the same material, but the design for them are different, for instance, the western world would probably give the T-shirt English words, call it an eastern brand name, and sell them. The eastern world, from my perspective, I would print some interesting Chinese words, give it an eastern brand name like FOB, and sell it for the same amount of money. Then what goes when both eastern and western world is capable of producing the same clothing, the answer is market. There would be no copyright infringement and there would be separate brands.
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