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Posted 8/18/17 , edited 8/18/17

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No I don't know how to drive at all.....I just drive a 5 speed and am clueless how to use a clutch and clutch pedal...


so you know how to drive--- just not a manual transmission. There's a reason why most people don't know how to drive a manual transmission car

How to Drive a Stick Shift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gmGoQ1dI2E
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I just picked up an BMW E30 recently as a project, so I'll be learning as much as i can from it. It was the cheapest running car I could find, so it'll need a lot of work too. It already came with an S52 e36 M3 engine in the car, but due to the path i want to build the car I'm hoping i can learn about and begin building another engine to put in to the chassis.


That engine isn't going to be cheap to rebuild.
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off hand id say work with what you got.
pull the engine in there, do a proper rebuild and start from there. look around for advise on what that engine likes, i.e. shaved head, camshaft, high compression pistions, ect. and do it while rebuilding.
lose some weight. (the car, not you). every 100 lbs is roughly .1 second in the 1/4 mile.
go aftermarket ECU. this si probally a must if your seriuos about performance.


Yeah I'm aiming to build more of a track day car that takes styling cues from the late 80s and early 90s DTM cars. NA setups on this engine can only get about 30 hp after a few grand worth of upgrades and the engine doesn't take forced induction too kindly supposedly. It appears that the original engine from the car, the M20b25, is actually a much better solution if you're aiming for more power because the engine was over-engineered combined with the lower compression pistons that won't put a hole through the side of the block if you attach a turbo. A nearly stock M20b25 can take over 400 hp for much less money than the S52 the previous owner swapped in. I'm not just going to take this good engine and dump it though, I'm going to keep this engine for awhile and focus on the chassis and aero balance before i do any drastic power upgrades. This engine is already putting out 250 hp, which is good for a 2600-2700 pound car, it's just i'm competing against my friends in a 300 hp FC3S, M Performance M2, and a 490 HP WRX lol.


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That engine isn't going to be cheap to rebuild.


Strangely it costs more to repair my daily driver, which is Acura/Honda. #YouLetMeDownJapan
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People hear BMW, first thing they say is 'expensive to fix'. First, I'd rather put money into something I actually want to drive than some trash like everyone else rolls around in. Second, old BMWs don't actually break, and the parts that do wear out take their sweet time doing it.

E30 is an apex machine, best car I ever had. Stick with it
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they drive around a turd like everybody else and yet they are thinking they are driving around in a Lamborghini...at least drive around in a Rolls Royce or Lamborghini (paid in full and not lease or rental i hope) . then feel free to brag



a car lose 50% of its value after 3 year not to mention limited # of luxury cars sold -- thus cut throat price for replacement parts since only the dealers will have them


also. there's a trend with luxry car owners--especially BMW...






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really, exactly how dumb are you?
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ad_arbitrium wrote:

People hear BMW, first thing they say is 'expensive to fix'. First, I'd rather put money into something I actually want to drive than some trash like everyone else rolls around in. Second, old BMWs don't actually break, and the parts that do wear out take their sweet time doing it.

E30 is an apex machine, best car I ever had. Stick with it


I had a 2002 and a 320i, they did break! Still never should have sold the 2002.


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Strangely it costs more to repair my daily driver, which is Acura/Honda. #YouLetMeDownJapan


I remember the M powerplants being costly to repair back in the day.


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they drive around a turd like everybody else and yet they are thinking they are driving around in a Lamborghini...at least drive around in a Rolls Royce or Lamborghini (paid in full and not lease or rental i hope) . then feel free to brag



a car lose 50% of its value after 3 year not to mention limited # of luxury cars sold -- thus cut throat price for replacement parts since only the dealers will have them


also. there's a trend with luxry car owners--especially BMW...








Real assholes have California plates.
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I remember the M powerplants being costly to repair back in the day.



Back in the day for a 14-year old female. Eh.
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VZ68 wrote:


I remember the M powerplants being costly to repair back in the day.



Back in the day for a 14-year old female. Eh.


You need to respect my pronouns, asshole.
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You need to respect my pronouns, asshole.



Lol I'm guessing you are 49-year old male. Most people put their birth year with their username.

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You need to respect my pronouns, asshole.



Lol I'm guessing you are 49-year old male. Most people put their birth year with their username.

ammirte?


Totally wrong.

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this is funny People can be assholes so it's nothing new-- and they are more likely when they are on the road --worst in a luxury car




I found the article for the pie chart you included above

Are Luxury Drivers the Biggest Jerks on the Road?
http://www.cartalk.com/blogs/jim-motavalli/are-luxury-drivers-biggest-jerks-road


@Ninjitsuko might one of the few exceptions though -- i think he drives a Genesis ? https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis.html Personally, i wouldn't touch a luxury car that is below $60,000 -- I don't know if you can really call it a luxury car when it's 30-40K range though.



https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-advice/car-manufacturer-family-tree-which-carmaker-owns-which-car-brands
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/06/car-brands-who-owns-what/index.htm

It's interesting how a discussion about cars can turn into this--- but I guess it only needed 1 asshole to start the fire This reminded me of the time I spent in court hearings. I was part of a program sponsored by the city so the requirement was that i have to spend at least 1-2 hour a month attending court hearings. There was guy who was in court over a ticket. Apparently, it was his 7th ticket for running the red light at the same intersection!! He was trying to present his case by naming various prior supreme court cases and how his rights were violated ??? Long story short. He had to pay for the ticket + court costs since he can't prove his case. I left the courtroom shortly after that and saw him walking toward his car in the parking lot.. can you guess what car he drove ?

Paid in full? I can NOT do that I don't know how many people in this country can do that either :? I don't have 60K to put down for a car, if i have that kind money i would put it toward the principal of the house instead-- a worthy investment for my money than a car. I would not buy a used luxury car either given new luxury car owners will most likely floor their car, i don't wantt to be the owner of car that was abused for 3-4 years-- especially when replacement parts are not easy to find and affordable as cars that sold millions in the US.



Do you know Scott Kilmer (youtube) ?

Why Luxury Cars Are Expensive To Fix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_8VueuEtH8

Why Mercedes Are Money Pit Machines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ64sTa7KI

Replacing A Thousand Dollar Shock Absorber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJzoyCPiAjg


Anyway, I think we can at least agree that It doesn't matter which car you drive, you will be paying a cut throat price if you are taking it to a dealer for maintenance/repair.
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Posted 8/21/17 , edited 8/21/17

AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

they drive around a turd like everybody else and yet they are thinking they are driving around in a Lamborghini...at least drive around in a Rolls Royce or Lamborghini (paid in full and not lease or rental i hope) . then feel free to brag


There's nothing at all to brag about in this 3 grand E30, it's barely surviving after seeing that the previous owner just put random stuff on it that kinda works lol. Besides, it's the best I can do because I absolutely adore the older touring car E30 M3s, and I can't afford an air-cooled Porsche 911.


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byClear wrote:

Strangely it costs more to repair my daily driver, which is Acura/Honda. #YouLetMeDownJapan


I remember the M powerplants being costly to repair back in the day.


I think part of the reason that my Acura is so expensive to repair is because of the K20 engine in it. If you're familiar with Hondas the K-series engines are regarded as the best engines they ever produced. Like if my engine ever gives up on my daily i'd lose 90% of the cars value. It's an amazing engine, but come on 5k for a honda 4 cylinder? I can buy another whole car for less than the damn engine.


VZ68 wrote: Real assholes have California plates.


Luckily for you I also live in California
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Posted 8/21/17
I have a question about manual/automatic cars in the UK?

Do people look down on a guy who drives an automatic car?
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Posted 8/23/17 , edited 8/23/17

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@Ninjitsuko might one of the few exceptions though -- i think he drives a Genesis ? https://www.genesis.com/us/en/genesis.html Personally, i wouldn't touch a luxury car that is below $60,000 -- I don't know if you can really call it a luxury car when it's 30-40K range though.


Do you know Scott Kilmer (youtube) ?

Why Luxury Cars Are Expensive To Fix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_8VueuEtH8

Why Mercedes Are Money Pit Machines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPJ64sTa7KI

Replacing A Thousand Dollar Shock Absorber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJzoyCPiAjg


Anyway, I think we can at least agree that It doesn't matter which car you drive, you will be paying a cut throat price if you are taking it to a dealer for maintenance/repair.



even the camry is crawling into the 40K range..




Yes. I know Scott Kilmer. What he said is not wrong. A family member of mine bought used 5-7 yr old luxury car once during the $4-$5/gallon. She didn't keep it for long.



The ultimate driving machines!

http://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/8382/top-10-most-expensive-cars-in-the-world-in-2017

1. McLaren P1 LM — $3.7 million
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