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Dear CR users,

I was remembering a conversation I read on CR a while back, in response to the question " Is Anime is for kids", when the recommendation were for shows like Mirai Nikki and Code Geass. Now, I am a huge fan of Code Geass, and when I read a recent topic about "LF>Anime for Adults, No Smut". I realized something.

"Is anime for kids" is a really bad question. Yes, some anime are for kids, like Folktales, and some are generally all ages.

The real question they should be asking and quite often mean is "Is anime juvenile?"

To be completely honest, a lot of anime is juvenile, despite having adult content, because of how it handles adult restricted content second of all, and first of all the catering to teenagers in various other ways. You will rarely see anyone use fanservice outside of referring to a non anime show, because anime does have elements of smut that are not present in Disney and Pixar or shows like Avatar and DCAU. Smut is not the definition of "Anime for adults" people are asking for, and usually never is for newcomers who are 20 and over.

Even if you discount gratuitous nudity, for every Nodame Cantibile and Maison Ikkoku, you have Nisekoi, Haganai, even a groundbreaking success like Kimi No Na Wa having more than just mild elements of teen romance, albeit done well enough for Kimi's case. There are of course Western equivalence. Sokka has Suki, Hazel Grace Lancaster has her Augustus "Gus" Walters, and whatever the hell Twilight is. Not that it means that all adult romances cannot be subjected to juvenile thinking, as we can tell from 50 Shades of Grey. What this romanticization of adolescence romance tells us that anime is usually catering to teenagers who never finished puberty, who then realize "Wow, my school years were bullshit, and everyone around me is stupid." Of course, some of us watch for fun, and there's nothing wrong with that. An element found in a lot of people my age who just exited puberty can be called "a nostalgic boner" that doesn't reappear till age 30 and up.


Many people find that certain anime may just be using high schoolers as expy for adults (Basically a reverse Dawson's Creek thing going on), and lets be honest, some do. However, most romantic anime I have seen are rife with drama, misunderstanding that wouldn't occur with rational minded people, and unrequited love. No one is interested in things like Katara and Aang or Yusaka and Kyoko, who are exemplary examples of a stable, growing relationship, but that of a harem pentagon or love triangle and all the pain and drama it causes, as well as the "Who will he or she choose?" This is not something you usually see depicted with adults in the way anime depicts it. While Batman does has an on-off relationship with Catwoman, Vicki Vale, etc, such romances in comics or western media in general are rarely titillating in the same sense. It isn't a question of when and if, but why? Instead of having the romance related to the participants mindsets, like how most of Batman or My Little Monster does it, most girls in harems just exist to fulfill a cliche, a choice, who are defined primarily by their romance and lackadaisically fleshed out with tacked on traits. They are not persons, but idols, waifus to be printed on a pillow case and humped repeatedly at night. This is the same mindset that drives the idol industry. In essence, besides anime like Nisekoi to a mild, mild extent, a lot of anime do not do character development well, or do it in the most cringeworthy way possible that you feel like you overestimated the participants' intelligence, whether it be the delaying of a confession or all the girls confessing at the same time, requiring a prompt decision, which I might add, is an exceedingly dick move. While I am aware that characters in romance rely far more on emotion than reasoning, especially those meant to be teenagers, I do not enjoy this Springer-esque drama that is only possible because to see adults acting like this would be both hilarious and soul crushing at the same time. I do not like prolonged romances, I do not like generic girls like Onodera who are there to complete the triangle, and I especially do not like romances that are badly or barely character driven.

Speaking of character driven, this is the reason a lot of romances in general fail. You simply do not like the characters, either because they are dull, they are stupid, or they are plainly abusive or excessively flawed for the most part, especially since romance is usually to be taken seriously at its dramatic points.


So to wrap up this first half, teenage romance is construed and idealized to the point that the situation of a harem is far more important than the individuals composing it, and that romance anime rarely manages to create a good drama as well as it does comedy, because the second half is where a great deal of characters who we may have liked do not abide by any thought but their dedication to one person, they probably won't see past high school, but are willing to slit the throat of rivals. This to me is juvenile.

In short...Puberty fucking sucks. The fact that every visual novel of high school romance aimed at men has ended up in a full blown sex scene is looking through puberty with rose tinted glasses. Please stop idealizing such situations that will never happen, or glossing over sex as just potential H-scene material.
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Anyways, as to the false premise of this thread, I believe some anime would beg to differ. Perhaps, "You Should Be Watching..." instead...







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Posted 2/6/17 , edited 2/6/17
*reads all of that*

And then you look at "adult" romance in the real world and realize that it tends to be equally as dumb as anything you see in anime (... at least in the U.S., where most people are as emotionally constipated as folks in the target viewing audience in Japan).
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Most anime is made for young children or teens. Not really sure what the point of the ramble is.
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My daughter watches One Piece and PreCure. She's 6.

What was your question again....?
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*reads all of that*

And then you look at "adult" romance in the real world and realize that it tends to be equally as dumb as anything you see in anime (... at least in the U.S., where most people are as emotionally constipated as folks in the target viewing audience in Japan).


This, so much. We adults can be just as stupid and obtuse as teenagers when when it comes to sex and romance. For instance, I've been told I have the emotional range of a rock. :'D
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It's aimed at a non western audience originally. No anime is not for kids. I have 2, 9 year old daughters, I do not want them to watch Elfan lied or High School of the Dead. I'm honestly reluctant to let them watch some of the more innocent ones such as fruits basket (mild insinuated nudity being the only reason). Then Kenshin (the profanity). I wish they'd get into the younger ones like CS Sakura, but I have no issue with them watching Pokemon. It's a matter of opinion, lots of people don't realize the content. Juvenile, not so. Some of the anime I watch has quite serious themes. Some not so much.
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Posted 2/7/17 , edited 2/7/17
I.. what....?

I feel sorry that I could not say anything constructive about your massive rant. Because it's so hard to make sense of it.

For example (picked random): "You will rarely (negative) see anyone use fanservice outside of (negative) referring to a non (negative)anime show..." have 3 'negative' in the same sentence and actually means "no one use fan service when refer to anime" which definitely wasn't what you mean.

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"a lot of anime is juvenile" hey! if watching moe catgirls in maid outfits with big boobs is juvenile, then who wants maturity?

seriously, a lot of anime is targeted to the lowest common denominator so they can turn a profit, but i can list a ton of amazing anime that never made it big [or vanished into obscurity] that don't follow juvenile tropes.[ currently i'm all about March Comes in Like a Lion] it's just most anime is watched by teens and young adults so lets give them fan-service and teen romance!
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Posted 2/7/17
Cool rant bro.

Watch yer'self some OG Lupin the 3rd. Red Jacket is my personal favorite of them olden days when I grew up.

And didn't you know? The Hobbit is for 10 year old boys!



ADULTS ARE JUST GROWN UP KIDS ANYWAYS. YAH GOTTA TAKE THE THINKIN' TO A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL.
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If you want a kids anime, you can't go wrong with Kodomo no Jikan. It means Children's Time in Japanese. Perfect anime for kids.
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Instead of reading all of that I'm just going to watch some anime regardless of the target audience.
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I describe anime like movie or book genres. They can be for kids, adults, teens, or whatever. It's just the stereotypes get in the way. Is anime for kids? Some of them are. But then again, some movies are for kids. Some books are for kids, etc. In fact, there are Western adult cartoons too. So people need to get educated lol
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Who gives a crap, if it is good who cares who it is for lol. All you really said is bad stuff is bad...Don't even look at demographic. It is the mentally of a 5th grader who thinks he is mature cause he has cod... Meanwhile I bust out the mario maker at the age of 27 and have so much fun. Who gives a crap, everybody likes different things, anime has it's ways.

This constant is anime just X? or is anime for Y? ect. is just people looking at anime at a narrow viewpoint. Anime changes and shifts with the times. I mean you go on and on about one genre, then claim it to be anime as a whole? When I get this way I just watch something I wouldn't normally try. It might be something much older, a genre I haven't watched very much or whatever. I am more of a "explorer" anime fan which means I don't care about demographic or genre too much. One of my recent "adventures" was just randomly watching lupin.
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