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You are online, being online is a fantasy world where you don't have to be the same person you are in the real world. You expect rationality from the mmo called crunchyroll.com? You should expect less.

You want a debate, but the majority of both sides do not have the facts to debate with. And those whom are the leaders just want to progress their own agendas and stay in power anyway, so they aren't any better. Debates are also better in person, but that is scary, why you are going to your fantasy realm to debate, less scary.
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I think you possess a grandiose idea of elders. There isn't some mysterious "enlightenment" that comes with age. Come on, PV. I struggle with the concept of you not knowing that already.

Anyway; I'm fairly certain that most people, myself included, would happily provide the professional debate decorum you seek... Provided we're granted the paychecks generally offered to the professionals. As it stands, there's little incentive, aside from egotism and personal satisfaction, to embellish our conversations with the effort of professionalism.

Although some lament the "lost art of debate," I'm personally concerned about the diminishment of casual conversation. These days, it seems there's a requirement to produce everything from bar graphs to PowerPoints, just to proclaim a preference for crispy wontons.
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Posted 2/6/17 , edited 2/6/17

Steelmonk wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I truly mean to generalize, and I truly mean to cause offense, and I acknowledge my huge ego as being a stupid, nubile, young mind who has found his answers without good reasoning, but I have to say...


I believe that most of the adults here, Usually in their last 20s and up, are surprisingly and needlessly stupid.


I know, I, the great PV, have shown his true colors. The fact that I am this self centered must surely be a surprise to you.


I will admit there are a lot of dumb people in their 20s and below, but I expected more from the adults here, I really do.
I admired adults for a long time, but it hasn't occur to me sometime back that with age, comes confidence in ones ability, or rather overconfidence, especially in our perceived rationality and wisdom that is expected with age, and it dawned on me.

To quote Judar's status quote, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge."

It makes sense, though I hate to just leave a quote here. Using someone else's words is hackneyed and lazy.

I mean, I thought I knew how to draw a functional bicycle on paper, but it has not occurred to me how a bike functions till I actually drew it, or attempted to, because I assume I knew. I didn't do well, suffice to say. In any case, many of us are not open to the possibility that we are wrong, and perhaps the opposing side is right. Maybe transgender mentally ill. Maybe marijuana is as bad as the PSAs suggested. I admit I dismiss things like Pizzagate without a real deep look into it, and I am pretty bigoted too against certain ideas.

Yet no one, on most sides of the debate, do not debate, but they argue, they cajole, they bully, insult, and harass. Honestly? From the recent political threads of yesteryear from Baron Trump's Autism to the recent defamation of Berkeley for having what they hosted and paid for ruined by outside agitators, and I'd say...I am wonderful. I have done a great job of attempting to understand either side. I am a god of logic and wonder. You cretins should appreciate me more, and follow my example.

I am just asking you try to not be idiots. Yes, you know who you are. Don't make me rattle off names. You can do that by assuming there is a side to everything, more than just the evil right wanting to keep people in poverty or I just being a social justice warrior when I clearly demand to be treated with respect in the face of insults.

Or something. Excuse me, I have to get coffee.



Haha, that's funny. Don't sweat it man. Relax, you'll get old some day. It's what humans do. As we get older our lives, philosophies and desires change. It's the human condition. Most people you find insufferable most likely had the same views as you do today. Most of my friends were extremely liberal back in the day, now they're conservative. I understand you find it to be unreasonable, but that's the way it is. It's the difference between what should be and what is. It's the difference between and fiery heart which seeks to fight injustice and the heart that has been wounded and crushed fighting for those things. We sometimes (quite often) become that which we hated in our youth. The problem here is that the aged cannot remember their youth, and the young have not experienced life. Catch 22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eXI4uy3Mlg


I honestly do not see how I am wrong. Most people of a certain age are too stodgy in their ideas, but you are right, perhaps I am wrong.
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Posted 2/6/17 , edited 2/7/17

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

It makes sense, though I hate to just leave a quote here. Using someone else's words is hackneyed and lazy.



That is not true. We learn primarily from teachers, and from the knowledge gathered in the past. There have been so many people smarter than us and better trained than us in all the various fields of knowledge and aspects of life; why shouldn't they be better at saying things than we are? Every time I write something, I'm always thinking that someone else probably already said what I'm about to say - much more intelligently that I'm going to say it. And what makes my opinion worth conveying if I'm not some kind of expert in what I'm talking about? Giving an opinion is incredibly self-aggrandizing. I feel like it's much more modest - and a lot classier - to quote someone who knows what they're talking about.


I meant to include just, sorry about that. A minor annoyance I have is the overuse of quotes without a real understanding of what they mean, or a posting of a picture with a quote without any expansion on the idea itself like it is Schwarzenegger's one liners. This is particularly aggravating when they infer something out of context that the statement itself cannot be reasonably concluded, especially about the author or intent itself.

For example:



In fact, I have this problem when certain conspiracy theorists copy and paste "proof" of pizzagate, which is essentially a bunch of pictures with built in captions. If you are that lazy to copy and paste someone else's work, then why post at all? These ready made replies need to die.

You are wholly correct, and it was my fault that I typed this too early and did not proofread.
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It's not the first time you've caught the humans being stupid again, PV-kun.
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I'll stick to the anime side of the forums. These Gen Discussions threads are a bummer.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Steelmonk wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I truly mean to generalize, and I truly mean to cause offense, and I acknowledge my huge ego as being a stupid, nubile, young mind who has found his answers without good reasoning, but I have to say...


I believe that most of the adults here, Usually in their last 20s and up, are surprisingly and needlessly stupid.


I know, I, the great PV, have shown his true colors. The fact that I am this self centered must surely be a surprise to you.


I will admit there are a lot of dumb people in their 20s and below, but I expected more from the adults here, I really do.
I admired adults for a long time, but it hasn't occur to me sometime back that with age, comes confidence in ones ability, or rather overconfidence, especially in our perceived rationality and wisdom that is expected with age, and it dawned on me.

To quote Judar's status quote, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge."

It makes sense, though I hate to just leave a quote here. Using someone else's words is hackneyed and lazy.

I mean, I thought I knew how to draw a functional bicycle on paper, but it has not occurred to me how a bike functions till I actually drew it, or attempted to, because I assume I knew. I didn't do well, suffice to say. In any case, many of us are not open to the possibility that we are wrong, and perhaps the opposing side is right. Maybe transgender mentally ill. Maybe marijuana is as bad as the PSAs suggested. I admit I dismiss things like Pizzagate without a real deep look into it, and I am pretty bigoted too against certain ideas.

Yet no one, on most sides of the debate, do not debate, but they argue, they cajole, they bully, insult, and harass. Honestly? From the recent political threads of yesteryear from Baron Trump's Autism to the recent defamation of Berkeley for having what they hosted and paid for ruined by outside agitators, and I'd say...I am wonderful. I have done a great job of attempting to understand either side. I am a god of logic and wonder. You cretins should appreciate me more, and follow my example.

I am just asking you try to not be idiots. Yes, you know who you are. Don't make me rattle off names. You can do that by assuming there is a side to everything, more than just the evil right wanting to keep people in poverty or I just being a social justice warrior when I clearly demand to be treated with respect in the face of insults.

Or something. Excuse me, I have to get coffee.



Haha, that's funny. Don't sweat it man. Relax, you'll get old some day. It's what humans do. As we get older our lives, philosophies and desires change. It's the human condition. Most people you find insufferable most likely had the same views as you do today. Most of my friends were extremely liberal back in the day, now they're conservative. I understand you find it to be unreasonable, but that's the way it is. It's the difference between what should be and what is. It's the difference between and fiery heart which seeks to fight injustice and the heart that has been wounded and crushed fighting for those things. We sometimes (quite often) become that which we hated in our youth. The problem here is that the aged cannot remember their youth, and the young have not experienced life. Catch 22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eXI4uy3Mlg


I honestly do not see how I am wrong. Most people of a certain age are too stodgy in their ideas, but you are right, perhaps I am wrong.


No you are not wrong! For you at this time in life. You should be arguing and fighting your ass off for a belief, person, ideal, gain, love, security, injustice and waste. As youth you are doing what you should be doing. The guys in their 30s and 40s have their things to do. They are defending their families, jobs and communities. At my age we move on to become super conservative due to living in a slightly unfamiliar world. It causes us to wield enormous money and power in the name of the past. The three periods allow the human race to move forward fairly smoothly. Overall 20000 years of history not too bad for a used to be monkey. You generation changes things, the middle aged guys build things, my generation pays for it. It's tough, and it can be perplexing, but it is who we all are. Keep on thinking, you're on the right track.
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Growing up is realizing that you don't know anything about anything, and faking it until you do.
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Onii-chan, I think you need a hug and some hot tea. I'm sorry for your poor head hurting from the brainless. I'm also tired of the brainless, let us rejoice and conquer. You are still #1, onii-chan.
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Posted 2/6/17 , edited 2/6/17

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


xIrishchickx wrote:

Seriously?

"Debating" Trump and politics on ... Crunchyroll is one thing.

But then complaining about the calibre of replies?

That's hilarious.


O-Onee sama.

Marry me.

I was at least expecting adults over 30 to be rational in thought to facts that while not true, if true would justify their response. I thought the bulk of internet stupidity was teenagers and 20 year olds, but I am surprised that the adults here are just as stupid.


The world is run by pretending children.

You will understand this and go into a stage of shock at some point in your life.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


auroraloose wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:

It makes sense, though I hate to just leave a quote here. Using someone else's words is hackneyed and lazy.



That is not true. We learn primarily from teachers, and from the knowledge gathered in the past. There have been so many people smarter than us and better trained than us in all the various fields of knowledge and aspects of life; why shouldn't they be better at saying things than we are? Every time I write something, I'm always thinking that someone else probably already said what I'm about to say - much more intelligently that I'm going to say it. And what makes my opinion worth conveying if I'm not some kind of expert in what I'm talking about? Giving an opinion is incredibly self-aggrandizing. I feel like it's much more modest - and a lot classier - to quote someone who knows what they're talking about.


I meant to include just, sorry about that. A minor annoyance I have is the overuse of quotes without a real understanding of what they mean, or a posting of a picture with a quote without any expansion on the idea itself like it is Schwarzenegger's one liners. This is particularly aggravating when they infer something out of context that the statement itself cannot be reasonably concluded, especially about the author or intent itself.

For example:



In fact, I have this problem when certain conspiracy theorists copy and paste "proof" of pizzagate, which is essentially a bunch of pictures with built in captions. If you are that lazy to copy and paste someone else's work, then why post at all? These ready made replies need to die.

You are wholly correct, and it was my fault that I typed this too early and did not proofread.


Oh, yeah - of course you're also right. I should have clarified that I meant quotes shared should actually be useful for the conversation.
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I don't know. I just came here for the anime.
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this is the first time iveseen this animated lol
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I think ever since the influx of political threads with baseless and biased opinion, the forums have been demoted from my option of entertainment.

Most people will never realize in their lifetime that there is no winning in any argument that is purely based on opinion and personal bias.
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Your assumption/expectation you had about adults is pretty stupid in of itself...like what exactly made you come to that conclusion...Im like genuinely curious cause thats usually something only really young children tend to do.
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