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Fake news is fake news. Fox news, NBC, and CNN have been found on several occasion's out right lying, or manipulating the evidence for their own agenda. Hence why I avoid them, Also I am not a member of the right or left.. So of course I am not going to jump head deep in both sides nonsense. As for Russia TV, yes They have more experience with Soros attempts at manipulating their government. I could also use Medias like Info Wars. I find them to be much more reliable than mainstream Media in America.


....So you're really arguing that the Kremlin's propaganda arm and a conspiracy theorist's website are reliable information?

RT's motives are highly questionable and Info Wars is pure lunacy. I might give you somewhat of a pass on RT since they at least generally report on actual events even if they speak of it as the Kremlin wills. But Infowars? You may as well have just said from the get go you have no credible sources and currently suspect gay amphibians are being used by the Illuminati to overthrow America.




Oh, Oh! I can help here:

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Oh, Oh! I can help here:



That's actually a really solid chart. Thanks for that.

Maybe we can get it pinned at the top of the forum. >.>
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Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

Fake news is fake news. Fox news, NBC, and CNN have been found on several occasion's out right lying, or manipulating the evidence for their own agenda. Hence why I avoid them, Also I am not a member of the right or left.. So of course I am not going to jump head deep in both sides nonsense. As for Russia TV, yes They have more experience with Soros attempts at manipulating their government. I could also use Medias like Info Wars. I find them to be much more reliable than mainstream Media in America.


....So you're really arguing that the Kremlin's propaganda arm and a conspiracy theorist's website are reliable information?

RT's motives are highly questionable and Info Wars is pure lunacy. I might give you somewhat of a pass on RT since they at least generally report on actual events even if they speak of it as the Kremlin wills. But Infowars? You may as well have just said from the get go you have no credible sources and currently suspect gay amphibians are being used by the Illuminati to overthrow America.






'Mainstream Media will have you believe that, but I agree with you on RT but like I said, they have more experience with Soros.' But for Info wars is good for raw information,

I LIKE TO SEE THAT INFOWARS ARTICAL ABOUT THE AMPHIBIANS. (SEEMS LIKE YOU TALKING SHIT WITHOUT ANY BACKING.)
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runec wrote:


mxdan wrote:
Oh, Oh! I can help here:



That's actually a really solid chart. Thanks for that.

Maybe we can get it pinned at the top of the forum. >.>


There would be a movement to have this one instated haha.



Can we just take a moment to recognize that PBS is categorized as 'tyrannical'.



How does one come to see the world in such ways? I feel like there is something I'm missing.
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'I have done research On New York Times, after all I am from NY. I found them to be very Agenda based, also have ties with Hillary. They even admitted to being Bias with their reporting.
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I LIKE TO SEE THAT INFOWARS ARTICAL ABOUT THE AMPHIBIANS. (SEEMS LIKE YOU TALKING SHIT WITHOUT ANY BACKING.)


Not sure if serious. The capslock, spelling and locker room posturing make it hard to tell.



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Can we just take a moment to recognize that PBS is categorized as 'tyrannical'.


We don't form dictatorships we have happy little accidents?
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even If u don't believe he is funding chaos, you should still hate him for the fact that he is a jew, became a Nazi and made his fellow jews die and doesn't feel any remorse to this day
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runec wrote:


mxdan wrote:
Oh, Oh! I can help here:



That's actually a really solid chart. Thanks for that.

Maybe we can get it pinned at the top of the forum. >.>


>great sources for news
>Washington post and new York times


yea like those aren't biased at all
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runec wrote:


mxdan wrote:
Oh, Oh! I can help here:



That's actually a really solid chart. Thanks for that.

Maybe we can get it pinned at the top of the forum. >.>


>great sources for news
>Washington post and new York times


yea like those aren't biased at all


Well at least New York Times admitted they are bias and proud of it, at least that's a step up right?
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>great sources for news
>Washington post and new York times

yea like those aren't biased at all


It doesn't say they aren't biased. Just that it's minimal. I mean weirdly enough apparently 10% of people actually think NYT was a conservative bias ( don't ask me how anyone would think that. I don't know. ). Wapo leans left but its not in the realm of something like MSNBC.

Also, in NYT's defense, NYC has a long, proud history of loathing Trump that predates his political career. -.-

This is the most recent version on a side note:



And the explaination of her process:


In view of the recent discussion and awareness about how detrimental "fake news" can be, I'd like to re-share a chart I created before the election. The categorization of news as simply "real" or "fake" is too simplistic; there are different ways in which news is good or bad.

***Original post***
We are living in a time where we have more information available to each of us than ever before in history. However, we are not all proficient at distinguishing between good information and bad information. This is true for liberal, moderate, and conservative people. I submit that these two circumstances are highly related to why our country is so politically polarized at the moment.

Why is it that I can have such different views on the same subject or topic as someone else who lives in the same country? Take the polarizing example of people's opinions on Hillary. Why do I think she is qualified and inspiring but others think she is literally evil incarnate? I don't know her personally. And neither do you. We must both admit that our opinions of her are informed by the news sources we read and believe. And news sources vary widely in what they report.

Which news sources should we believe, when there are so many to choose from, and each one is telling you not to believe another one? I put together this chart of which news sources I think you should use and which ones you should not. If you value my opinion as someone who both is reasonable and well-informed, you may find it helpful. If you don't really care what I think, it will be useless to you. These are my subjective opinions based on having read many news stories from each of the listed sites. The only credibility or authority I can claim in this regard is that I read and write analytically for a living.

Before you look at the chart, I'd like to address the fact that many people object to media sources on the basis that they are "mainstream." They say "I don't believe the mainstream media! They are owned by big corporations and do things for money!" But where did they get that idea? From another media source. Remember that each media source has their own incentives (like monetary ones) to get people to listen to them and not to someone else. You have to evaluate media based on something other than the fact that one source told you not to listen to another source.

Remember that journalism is a professional and academic field with a set of agreed-upon standards. People get degrees in it and people who are really good at it get jobs in it at good organizations. Peer review helps ensure mainstream sources adhere to standards; if a story doesn't meet those standards, other news outlets report on that. Not believing the mainstream media just because it is mainstream is like not believing a mainstream doctor or a mainstream lawyer. Sure, you should question and rate the quality of what the newspaper, doctor, or lawyer says, but you shouldn't dismiss them out of hand because the paper is big, the doctor works at a hospital, or the lawyer works at a firm.

The chart is pretty self-explanatory. Here are some caveats and reasons for my rankings:
-I am operating out of the assumption that the less blatantly partisan the source is, the more accurate it is.
-I understand that individual reporters, even at the most reputable news sources, have their own personal biases and opinions. The rankings are an overall ranking of each site.
-The "great news sources" are not necessarily ranked in order in comparison to each other one in the same circle. There is just not enough room. Their quality differs very slightly compared to others not in the category at all.
-News sources not on there are omitted solely because of space considerations. There are, after all, so very many sources. I'd be happy to provide my opinion on placement for a particular source if you ask.
-"Sensational" means the article have titles like "So and so DESTROYS so and so with THIS response!"
-"Clickbait" means the articles have titles like "She walked into a meeting. What happened next will shock you!"
-"Conspiracy theories" means shit that is just made up. Like National Enquirer type stories.
-Satire is not included. Those would be completely outside the chart.
-No distinction is made between original news sources and "aggregators" here--that is another important discussion to be had, though.
-I'm sure this will offend some people that typically agree with me politically. Sorry.
**Update** I added A FEW. The Nation, National Review, Al Jazeera, and Christian Science Monitor. I really can't add to much more without making a bigger chart. For the grey and beige top bubbles, which are crowded, the relative placement is easily debatable. Don't get too mad as long as the source you are referring to is still in the correct bubble.






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redokami wrote:

even If u don't believe he is funding chaos, you should still hate him for the fact that he is a jew, became a Nazi and made his fellow jews die and doesn't feel any remorse to this day


The closest I've seen to anyone backing up this claim is what DeadlyOats posted which doesn't say anything close to what you are implying.


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

I LIKE TO SEE THAT INFOWARS ARTICAL ABOUT THE AMPHIBIANS. (SEEMS LIKE YOU TALKING SHIT WITHOUT ANY BACKING.)


While I believe that specific part was a joke, Alex Jones does really like the gay frogs. He talks about them a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgKvl5VQVkY
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Dang it PV, relax man. You're going to have a heart attack by the time you're 30. Do what I do, take sword fighting. It's really relaxing. Besides that, yeah it's getting crazy out there.
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that was a fun game

was better at tic tac toe tho
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Is SOS from the same people that framed ACORN, was caught trying to hire people to disrupt the inauguration and blame it on liberals and caught dragging someone out and stepping on their head of one of their gatherings?
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redokami wrote:

even If u don't believe he is funding chaos, you should still hate him for the fact that he is a jew, became a Nazi and made his fellow jews die and doesn't feel any remorse to this day


The closest I've seen to anyone backing up this claim is what DeadlyOats posted which doesn't say anything close to what you are implying.


it's probably an alt-facts thing...
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