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I'd argue it is a case of you shouldn't be giving criminals guns legally. While people like Akage pursue a more rule utilitarian route of just giving guns to everyone purely because it would benefit citizens a great deal, I believe the selling of such armaments bear some responsibility, just as stores cannot give alcohol to teenagers, despite there being many "loopholes" (Most are illegal). In essence, even if criminals do get their guns, it shouldn't be as easy as walking into a gun store and procuring it through legal channels. There is a responsibility of the state to practice basic measures

I have no issue with background checks or waiting periods, and this stance I advocate is something that most gun owners agree with here in Virginia.


FFL dealers do need to be licensed, they are required to submit a NICS background check, and providing a firearm to someone who fails the NICS check is already a felony. It is impossible and impractical to expect the dealer to personally investigate the purchaser; that's what the NICS system is for. If the FBI says the NICS check is good, the onus should not be on the dealer to "prove it".... though many will in fact refuse a sale if they have a bad feeling about the purchaser's intended use
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I never really got the appeal of any of the AK variants floating out there. Having handled more then a few I just don't understand.


Nor do I. They are rattle-y, loose-fitting, poorly-sighted range blasters with greater than 4MOA grouping. Only accurate rifles are interesting.


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Especially the earlier variants that fired from an open bolt, what drunken Soviet thought that was a good idea? Not to mention those AK mags with a slot cut into them, hello dirt and misfeed problems galore.


Que? I think you may be the drunken one here. No open-bolt AK variant has ever been fielded (at least, not by the Soviets; maybe some garage-shop gun plumber made one). They certainly were not imported to the US, because open-bolt guns are illegal in the US (barring class III weapons licenses) as they are too easily converted into fully automatic firearms. The PPSh-41 and PPS-43 fired from an open bolt, and were the weapons replaced by the AK47. The DP, DPM, and DP-46/ RP-46 fired from the open bolt and were replaced by the RPK (AK derivative; closed-bolt), but no standard-issue AK or civilianized AK sold in the US were open-bolt. The issue magazines for the AK never had a view window cut in them, ever. I think you may be confusing it with the Chauchat?


Ranwolf wrote:As for Assault Rifles I like call me crazy but the SIG 550-1 was a rifle I fell in love with as well.


Oh, you mean the world's fanciest AK? I thought you hated AKs. Perhaps you should look into the mechanics of the SIG 550-series, and how they are literally product-improved AKs. I have a couple Sig 556s (same design, but with a STANAG magazine well instead of rock-in mags), and it is... ok, I guess. Way too front-heavy, barrel heats far too easily, ergonomics are iffy. Trigger is super mushy, as Sigs are wont to do. Accuracy is acceptable, but it does absolutely nothing that an M16A2/A3/A4 doesn't do better, while the M16A2 is almost a pound and a half less weight (despite the M16A2 having a more heating-resistent heavy-profile barrel compared to the pencil-profile on the Sig). Oh, and the Sig550, with it's unprotected ejection port, will face the same fouling issues the AKs have in mud and dirt. For your viewing pleasure, some actual fouling tests of AKs, ARs, and other designs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyXndCxn9K4&list=PLj9u4Ts2NpEv4Fnwx2_ig4wVqiONfH1me


Ranwolf wrote: I wish the CAF had adopted it and it's parent rifle the SIG SG 550 instead of that crap ass M16 clone the C7 as it's main rifle.


Duly noted.


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New one on me about AKs that fire from an open bolt. I have more trigger time on an AK than I do any other weapon, probably my favorite platform. As long as you stay away from poorly made mags the AK is hard to beat.


Those slot cut mags weren't some made in china knock off. They were military issue and popular with Soviet forces in Afghanistan during their invasion of said country. Also I can't forgive a rifle that makes it such a chore to keep rounds on target after 300 meters or so. It's competitor the M16 isn't such a chore to get accuracy out of, hell that garbage Brit rifle the L85A1 is easier to keep on target( when the mag isn't dropping).


You are so full of crap. By Afghanistan, the Soviets had transitioned to the AK74, firing a different cartridge entirely, and used bakelite plastic magazines (at the time, made in a rather bright reddish-brown). No view windows anywhere on those magazines, and even if the early AK47s DID have them (they didn't) and had had reliability issues as a result, the Kalashnikov concern had almost three decades before the adoption of the AK74 to sort out that problem. Sorry, but no. You are wrong.

I grow increasingly convinced that you are a whole lot of hot air and have never actually fired any of these firearms. You sure talk a big game all the time, though. Veritable definition of armchair warrior.


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Ranwolf wrote:

I never really got the appeal of any of the AK variants floating out there. Having handled more then a few I just don't understand.


Nor do I. They are rattle-y, loose-fitting, poorly-sighted range blasters with greater than 4MOA grouping. Only accurate rifles are interesting.


Ranwolf wrote:
Especially the earlier variants that fired from an open bolt, what drunken Soviet thought that was a good idea? Not to mention those AK mags with a slot cut into them, hello dirt and misfeed problems galore.


Que? I think you may be the drunken one here. No open-bolt AK variant has ever been fielded (at least, not by the Soviets; maybe some garage-shop gun plumber made one). They certainly were not imported to the US, because open-bolt guns are illegal in the US (barring class III weapons licenses) as they are too easily converted into fully automatic firearms. The PPSh-41 and PPS-43 fired from an open bolt, and were the weapons replaced by the AK47. The DP, DPM, and DP-46/ RP-46 fired from the open bolt and were replaced by the RPK (AK derivative; closed-bolt), but no standard-issue AK or civilianized AK sold in the US were open-bolt. The issue magazines for the AK never had a view window cut in them, ever. I think you may be confusing it with the Chauchat?


Ranwolf wrote:As for Assault Rifles I like call me crazy but the SIG 550-1 was a rifle I fell in love with as well.


Oh, you mean the world's fanciest AK? I thought you hated AKs. Perhaps you should look into the mechanics of the SIG 550-series, and how they are literally product-improved AKs. I have a couple Sig 556s (same design, but with a STANAG magazine well instead of rock-in mags), and it is... ok, I guess. Way too front-heavy, barrel heats far too easily, ergonomics are iffy. Trigger is super mushy, as Sigs are wont to do. Accuracy is acceptable, but it does absolutely nothing that an M16A2/A3/A4 doesn't do better, while the M16A2 is almost a pound and a half less weight (despite the M16A2 having a more heating-resistent heavy-profile barrel compared to the pencil-profile on the Sig). Oh, and the Sig550, with it's unprotected ejection port, will face the same fouling issues the AKs have in mud and dirt. For your viewing pleasure, some actual fouling tests of AKs, ARs, and other designs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyXndCxn9K4&list=PLj9u4Ts2NpEv4Fnwx2_ig4wVqiONfH1me


Ranwolf wrote: I wish the CAF had adopted it and it's parent rifle the SIG SG 550 instead of that crap ass M16 clone the C7 as it's main rifle.


Duly noted.


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New one on me about AKs that fire from an open bolt. I have more trigger time on an AK than I do any other weapon, probably my favorite platform. As long as you stay away from poorly made mags the AK is hard to beat.


Those slot cut mags weren't some made in china knock off. They were military issue and popular with Soviet forces in Afghanistan during their invasion of said country. Also I can't forgive a rifle that makes it such a chore to keep rounds on target after 300 meters or so. It's competitor the M16 isn't such a chore to get accuracy out of, hell that garbage Brit rifle the L85A1 is easier to keep on target( when the mag isn't dropping).


You are so full of crap. By Afghanistan, the Soviets had transitioned to the AK74, firing a different cartridge entirely, and used bakelite plastic magazines (at the time, made in a rather bright reddish-brown). No view windows anywhere on those magazines, and even if the early AK47s DID have them (they didn't) and had had reliability issues as a result, the Kalashnikov concern had almost three decades before the adoption of the AK74 to sort out that problem. Sorry, but no. You are wrong.

I grow increasingly convinced that you are a whole lot of hot air and have never actually fired any of these firearms. You sure talk a big game all the time, though. Veritable definition of armchair warrior.




Mate I am not American, nor I am bound by it's fire arms laws. And yes I've never handled a civilian import of an AK , as they are illegal in Canada. The only AK variants I've handled are military variants the base's armoury keeps in stock and the knock offs the camel jockeys made in Afghanistan. As for the cut out mags, ask any damn Russian soldier , you'll find them quite popular, a whole lot of Soviet soldiers did it to the mags themselves .
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I like guns and believe that you have a right to own them. But, everything has limits, and I believe that regulations should exist so that guns are not fetishised and owned like toys or advertised by abusing peoples insecurities and paranoia. Also, screw the NRA!
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Mate I am not American, nor I am bound by it's fire arms laws. And yes I've never handled a civilian import of an AK , as they are illegal in Canada. The only AK variants I've handled are military variants the base's armoury keeps in stock and the knock offs the camel jockeys made in Afghanistan. As for the cut out mags, ask any damn Russian soldier , you'll find them quite popular, a whole lot of Soviet soldiers did it to the mags themselves .


I never said you were American. I said: 1) you are an idiot who knows nothing about firearms yet pretends you do, 2) you are demonstrably wrong about the AK47 having a commonly produced open-bolt variant, 3) that magazine cut-outs were never a feature on issued AK47 magazines, and 4) that the AK47 was not even the issued weapon in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

I further said (or implied) that I think you're a posturing buffoon. Nowhere did I say that I thought you were American. The closest I came was in stating that open bolt guns are illegal in the US. If you are so incapable of parsing sentences that you cannot help but jump to incorrect assumptions (such as assuming that "they weren't imported to the US" means "you must clearly be from the US"), that is not my problem. It would also go a long ways towards explaining how you came to hold so many demonstrably false beliefs about the world. But again, I never stated that I thought you were American. I would be frankly ashamed if you were. In fact, your racist, nationalist tirades have made it quite clear that you are not, and I for one hope you stay out.

And you still have not shown any proof of any of your incorrect claims about the weapons you claim to know so much about. You have, comically, backpedalled from "oh, they were totes a faulty design feature on the original AK47 design", to now "no, no, I mean, they weren't part of the design, Soviet soldiers added them THEMSELVES in the field as an unauthorized field modification, even though they caused huge problems with fouling the gun". Wow. Shift goalposts much?

I think you're full of shit, and will continue to believe such until you own up some citations for the existence of your mythical open-bolt Kalashnikovs and standard-issue windowed AK magazines, "mate".
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Top 3 taken at a Sports Show. Last is (one of) my personal rifles.






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Top 3 taken at a Sports Show. Last is (one of) my personal rifles.








For those of us not in the know, what are they?
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Top 3 taken at a Sports Show. Last is (one of) my personal rifles.



I know it's not your fault, but good lord the California/ NY compliant ARs are monstrosities. It's a shame you have to do that to a rifle. Stocks like that fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. >.<
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For those of us not in the know, what are they?

A Tavor X95 Flattop XG16
An UZI UPP9SB
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Yes, they did. Thankfully it's not as uncomfortable to shoot as it looks. At least NY can't do anything with my Enfield. I'd cry if I had to ruin a rifle that came back from the War to make it compliant.
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Yes, they did. Thankfully it's not as uncomfortable to shoot as it looks. At least NY can't do anything with my Enfield. I'd cry if I had to ruin a rifle that came back from the War to make it compliant.


Ugh, yeah, I'm pretty sure that would qualify as blasphemy =P
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Ranwolf wrote:
Mate I am not American, nor I am bound by it's fire arms laws. And yes I've never handled a civilian import of an AK , as they are illegal in Canada. The only AK variants I've handled are military variants the base's armoury keeps in stock and the knock offs the camel jockeys made in Afghanistan. As for the cut out mags, ask any damn Russian soldier , you'll find them quite popular, a whole lot of Soviet soldiers did it to the mags themselves .


I never said you were American. I said: 1) you are an idiot who knows nothing about firearms yet pretends you do, 2) you are demonstrably wrong about the AK47 having a commonly produced open-bolt variant, 3) that magazine cut-outs were never a feature on issued AK47 magazines, and 4) that the AK47 was not even the issued weapon in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

I further said (or implied) that I think you're a posturing buffoon. Nowhere did I say that I thought you were American. The closest I came was in stating that open bolt guns are illegal in the US. If you are so incapable of parsing sentences that you cannot help but jump to incorrect assumptions (such as assuming that "they weren't imported to the US" means "you must clearly be from the US"), that is not my problem. It would also go a long ways towards explaining how you came to hold so many demonstrably false beliefs about the world. But again, I never stated that I thought you were American. I would be frankly ashamed if you were. In fact, your racist, nationalist tirades have made it quite clear that you are not, and I for one hope you stay out.

And you still have not shown any proof of any of your incorrect claims about the weapons you claim to know so much about. You have, comically, backpedalled from "oh, they were totes a faulty design feature on the original AK47 design", to now "no, no, I mean, they weren't part of the design, Soviet soldiers added them THEMSELVES in the field as an unauthorized field modification, even though they caused huge problems with fouling the gun". Wow. Shift goalposts much?

I think you're full of shit, and will continue to believe such until you own up some citations for the existence of your mythical open-bolt Kalashnikovs and standard-issue windowed AK magazines, "mate".


Let's not insult each other here.
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Let's not insult each other here.


I give respect to those who earn it, and grant same in return, and I am nice to those who do likewise.

I feel no compulsion to be nice to ranting racist ultranationalists, nor do I feel the need to sugarcoat when I call someone out on being wrong. He's wrong, full stop.
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