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Posted 2/11/17
Self sacrifice is for someone elses benefit and suicide is for your own.

1) It's not cowardly. In fact calling it that in front of the person considering it just makes them feel worse. So they are contributing to their suicide.

2) We live only for ourselves. Everybody else on the planet should only be an afterthought.

3) Some people are more selfless than others. That's their flaw, you'd never see me sacrificing my life for a stranger.
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saksiss wrote:

Self sacrifice is for someone elses benefit and suicide is for your own.

1) It's not cowardly. In fact calling it that in front of the person considering it just makes them feel worse. So they are contributing to their suicide.

2) We live only for ourselves. Everybody else on the planet should only be an afterthought.

3) Some people are more selfless than others. That's their flaw, you'd never see me sacrificing my life for a stranger.


probably the best, most logical, and honest comment tbh
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1.Suicide is in no shape cowardly. If you truly feel that there is no point in continuing to exist then you should end yourself.
Inb4: What about how your relatives/friends feel

Fuck that noise, if they actually cared in the first place they would respect your decision. The whole claim in itself is selfish is because they only care about how they(their own feelings) feel after your dead, while they give 0 fucks while your alive.

2.For yourself, unless you have kids then you have to live on for them as long as you can

3.No clue, but if I was told my death would stop all conflicts in the world, id end myself.
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Suicide being viewed as immoral is really because of ancient thinking associated with religions that denounce it. Human beings are special because we are able to view our own worth. This idea that life is a blessing and gift is hysterical to me. We don't even fully understand the value of our lives, we have no actual evidence about what happens when we die. For all we know we are immediately reborn after death, making zero of our lives particularly special. It is merely animal instinct that tells us to live and fear death. Suicide is a conundrum though because it defies such primitive behavior.

Honestly, who knows man. Suicide is sad for those around you, but calling someone a coward for it is mostly that person projecting their anger or resentment over it. At the end of the day, it is your life. I don't really see my own life as anything special, but my brain tells me to live.
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I feel like this was asked before
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Posted 2/12/17
I have zero sympathy for those who threaten or commit the act of killing themselves. Self-sacrifice is stupid, too.

1. Yes.

2. Ourselves.

3. Retardation, as it were.
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Posted 2/12/17 , edited 2/12/17
Well as it implies, self-sacrifice is giving up yourself. It's giving away your own needs to ensure someone or something else benefits. You do it because you feel there is a cause worth sacrificing for. Basically, it's not that you Want to be hurt, but that you're Willing to be hurt.

For me suicide could be either of two things. Suicide can be complete abandonment of all causes, including one's own well-being (This being, in my opinion the most common). The other, which is esoteric in nature, is that you are completely done with this life for one reason or another, and you choose to end it yourself to jump start reincarnation. You're essentially hitting the reset button, because the current lifetime holds no value to you anymore.

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Bonus Questions:

1. Is suicide really all that cowardly?

I won't judge someone who ends their life. I have no energy for anguish or lament over the departed. The living for the living.

2. Who do we live for?

We live for the things we hold dear to ourselves, whatever those things may be.

3. Why are some people willing to die for a stranger?

Perhaps for love, empathy, a religious dogma, instinct, glory, an excuse, or any manner of other reasons. How the hell would I know? lol


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I don't think many people who have died saving someone knew they were going to die. It's likely that they made an extremely risky choice to help someone, hoping to fight the odds and died making that choice as a result.
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1. I don't think suicide is cowardly at all. Of course, it's never the right choice to end your own life, but it still takes a lot of strength to be able to go to such extremes.

2. Who we live for depends on us. In my example, I live for my best friend and my family. Other people may live for themselves, and that's completely fine.

3. Some people feel so much empathy and care for that stranger so much that they're willing to die for them. Those people aren't in the wrong, it just depends on what type of person they're giving their life for.
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