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We will likely have even bigger terror attacks than we've already had.... Thanks to the most liberal, the most leftist, most Un-American group of people in the country.

The Ninth Circuit Court.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5319451886001/?#sp=show-clips

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Here's the video that is referenced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTXN2p3qVRg

A very good argument for doing a temporary ban, until the vetting process is reviewed.
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The 9th circuit gets overturned more than any other court in the country. It is difficult to see how they could be that big of a contributor when their judgements can barely be considered valid.
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Both sides are at fault here tbh. The right has their share of paranoid people who serve as recruitment tools for extremist groups and the left has their share of bleeding-heart naive imbeciles who are in complete denial about how different Islam's core values are to a relatively secular West. The members of the left are way too busy being offended for other people (hello white guilt!) and the conservatives from the right are too busy chasing after conspiracy theories to pay attention to things that matter. Everyone is led by their emotions and is way too invested in a new form of political tribalism to step back and solve these issues together.
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DeadlyOats wrote:

We will likely have even bigger terror attacks than we've already had.... Thanks to the most liberal, the most leftist, most Un-American group of people in the country.

The Ninth Circuit Court.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5319451886001/?#sp=show-clips


"The most liberal -- The most leftist -- The most un-American group of people." From the outset you've set terms for a dishonest discussion. What constitutes something being the most un-American? Disagreement with your ideals? Is America what you believe it to be? Or is it a combination of what many people believe it is...? Calling a group 'un-American' for not adhering to that does not make it so.
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In many ways you could say that the "mainstream media", and by extension the DNC, is the major cause of that "tribalism". They were the ones insisting on the appearance of a unified front by attacking and undermining anyone who appeared to stray from the herd, especially the GOP where they make then out to be without vision, concrete goals, or clear motives. Attacking Trump, personally, for this so-called ban, which is his sole prerogative (as established many times by the Supreme Court, and notably in the last 30 years or so with Clinton deporting a six year old boy who had every legal standing to stay, and Obama failing to enforce immigration laws. Presidents decide immigration policy.).

So, really, no. The 9th circuit made their typical judgement, but it doesn'the amount to spit as to terrorist attacks increasing.
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DeadlyOats wrote:

We will likely have even bigger terror attacks than we've already had.... Thanks to the most liberal, the most leftist, most Un-American group of people in the country.

The Ninth Circuit Court.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5319451886001/?#sp=show-clips


The most liberal -- The most leftist -- The most un-American group of people. From the outset you've set terms for a dishonest discussion. What constitutes something being the most un-American? Disagreement with your ideals? Is America what you believe it to be? Or is it a combination of what many people believe it is... Calling a group 'un-American' for not adhering to that does not make it so.


I think most conservatives see being "American" as the degree of loyalty to the GOP. Regardless of the policies being implemented or, as we've seen, the blatant efforts to gaslight the country. Anything but absolute loyaly to the new emperor president is deemed un-American. Facts? Reason? A fucking 50 billion dollar debt to build a useless vanity project? They can't hear you over the sound of Sean Spicer yelling at the press.
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DeadlyOats wrote:

We will likely have even bigger terror attacks than we've already had.... Thanks to the most liberal, the most leftist, most Un-American group of people in the country.

The Ninth Circuit Court.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5319451886001/?#sp=show-clips


You are correct that we are not safe.

This is not the reason why.

Personally, I worry most about primordial black holes moving close to the speed of light.
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DeadlyOats wrote:

We will likely have even bigger terror attacks than we've already had.... Thanks to the most liberal, the most leftist, most Un-American group of people in the country.

The Ninth Circuit Court.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5319451886001/?#sp=show-clips


You are correct that we are not safe.

This is not the reason why.

Personally, I worry most about primordial black holes moving close to the speed of light.


Difficult to worry about, and unlikely to affect anyone in a noticeable way. Easier to worry about deep ocean volcanic activity changing fishing habits.
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gornotck wrote:


auroraloose wrote:


DeadlyOats wrote:

We will likely have even bigger terror attacks than we've already had.... Thanks to the most liberal, the most leftist, most Un-American group of people in the country.

The Ninth Circuit Court.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5319451886001/?#sp=show-clips


You are correct that we are not safe.

This is not the reason why.

Personally, I worry most about primordial black holes moving close to the speed of light.


Difficult to worry about, and unlikely to affect anyone in a noticeable way. Easier to worry about deep ocean volcanic activity changing fishing habits.


I dunno - my brain doesn't seem to have any difficulty worrying about black holes flying through the solar system and wrecking all the planetary orbits.
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But is it more or less real than lunch? Is it more or less likely than stubbing your littlest toe? Can it be prevented by love or money?
These are the important questions and also why black holes aren't a real danger.
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'The left wants Trump to fail so yes they will do whatever it takes to have shit hit the fans, then blame it on Trump wen this leads to attacks on American soil. JUST look at the Numbers of females being raped by the same people the left wish to bring in to America.

Coming to America is not a right! its a privilege earned and no they have not earned the right to come to America! This is a act of war on Americas safety, And if this leads to crime, rape, murder, you watch as they try to blame Trump for it, after they are the ones that stop Trump from preventing it. wen this happens I can only hope that the rest of America stands up against are liberal extremists, and do something about their mess they made!
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But is it more or less real than lunch? Is it more or less likely than stubbing your littlest toe? Can it be prevented by love or money?
These are the important questions and also why black holes aren't a real danger.


My lunch was a candy bar, so... maybe?

I don't actually know much statistics (since I do theoretical physics I can get away with that), but I wonder what a reasonable probability for tremendous disaster - cosmic or earthbound - would be?
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'The left wants Trump to fail so yes they will do whatever it takes to have shit hit the fans, then blame it on Trump wen this leads to attacks on American soil. JUST look at the Numbers of females being raped by the same people the left wish to bring in to America.

Coming to America is not a right! its a privilege earned and no they have not earned the right to come to America! This is a act of war on Americas safety, And if this leads to crime, rape, murder, you watch as they try to blame Trump for it, after they are the ones that stop Trump from preventing it. wen this happens I can only hope that the rest of America stands up against are liberal extremists, and do something about their mess they made!


For once, I'd love to see some evidence for all the claims you make. I won't deny that violence against women (rape, acid attacks, beatings, stoning, etc) is a thing in a lot of Muslim countries but I don't know if you're willingly ignoring the details to be a scare-mongerer or you really don't understand them. I keep hearing Trumpians scream "look at what's happening in Europe!" whenever someone mentions allowing refugees to enter the United States but what's left out is the difference in geography, the number of refugees entering the country, and the lack of screening for any of them. Anyone who believes that the left wants to openly allow anyone to freely enter the US without proper screening is either ignorant or just a hopeless asinine Trumpian. The same kind of imbeciles who kept promoting the redneck apocalypse scenario where the government "wants to take away guns" from Americans instead of sitting down and talking about sensible gun control.
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There are businesses that exist to quantify that.
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auroraloose wrote:


gornotck wrote:

But is it more or less real than lunch? Is it more or less likely than stubbing your littlest toe? Can it be prevented by love or money?
These are the important questions and also why black holes aren't a real danger.


My lunch was a candy bar, so... maybe?

I don't actually know much statistics (since I do theoretical physics I can get away with that), but I wonder what a reasonable probability for tremendous disaster - cosmic or earthbound - would be?


'Their is a deference from preventable dangers and natural disasters. We can not prevent a unforeseen singularity from dismantling us . But we can prevent some disasters, like what this circle jerks of 9 are creating.
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