First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  Next  Last
Post Reply We Are Not Safe
Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17
Wow that escalated quick ! and Deadly Oats i like some of your threads again some of them
are interesting this one i happen to agree on we are not safe. The thing is I see this occurring at a fast rate

where the left if they do not get their way cry or complain then get judges etc.. look how they held back
Trumps new incoming in congress we see nothing new here! And I do agree the ban should stay in tact

as for now it's another waiting game i think the last i read its going to supreme court I am not one who is going panic nah!

Am I angry, sure cause this is nothing new from the left group i could sit here for hours i got more
important things going on today!

> I am missing my friend Xan today somehow he would have had me laughing about it.
35923 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
32 / M
Offline
Posted 2/11/17
While we're talking disturbing hypotheticals: Do we even know the sun is still there? After all, our most reliable information is more than eight minutes out of date.

The sun could be completely gone as I type this, perhaps it went for a walk, perhaps terrorists blew it up. We have no way of knowing.

Even the Earth itself would continue along in its orbit, blithely ignorant of the fact that there's no body of mass to actually sustain that orbit for a full eight minutes before it realizes that something is amiss.


Honestly, Americans aren't in any more or less danger from Terrorists than when Obama was still president. Terrorists would certainly like to perpetrate another 9/11 scale attack on the United States, I'm sure, but thus far they haven't been able to. During all eight years of Obama's presidency (and Bush's years, post 9/11), for all his faults, there wasn't a single terrorist attack with that sort of mass casualties.
2418 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / F / The margins
Offline
Posted 2/11/17

iriomote wrote:

While we're talking disturbing hypotheticals: Do we even know the sun is still there? After all, our most reliable information is more than eight minutes out of date.

The sun could be completely gone as I type this, perhaps it went for a walk, perhaps terrorists blew it up. We have no way of knowing.

Even the Earth itself would continue along in its orbit, blithely ignorant of the fact that there's no body of mass to actually sustain that orbit for a full eight minutes before it realizes that something is amiss.



Psh - you think the sun is real?
35923 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
32 / M
Offline
Posted 2/11/17

auroraloose wrote:

Psh - you think the sun is real?

We're all entitled to our childish fantasies. For some it's the Easter Bunny, for myself it's a giant ball of plasma sustaining all life from millions of miles away.
11778 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
20 / M / Winnipeg, MB.
Offline
Posted 2/11/17

auroraloose wrote:
People on the internet are people in real life, too - and the arguments here are just as real as they are through other forms of communication. You shouldn't use them for your own personal ends.


The only "personal end" of mine being fulfilled here is me having my say. If you do not like that you're probably in the wrong place.
24116 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
21 / M / Oppai Hell
Online
Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


AlastorCrow wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:

'The left wants Trump to fail so yes they will do whatever it takes to have shit hit the fans, then blame it on Trump wen this leads to attacks on American soil. JUST look at the Numbers of females being raped by the same people the left wish to bring in to America.

Coming to America is not a right! its a privilege earned and no they have not earned the right to come to America! This is a act of war on Americas safety, And if this leads to crime, rape, murder, you watch as they try to blame Trump for it, after they are the ones that stop Trump from preventing it. wen this happens I can only hope that the rest of America stands up against are liberal extremists, and do something about their mess they made!


For once, I'd love to see some evidence for all the claims you make. I won't deny that violence against women (rape, acid attacks, beatings, stoning, etc) is a thing in a lot of Muslim countries but I don't know if you're willingly ignoring the details to be a scare-mongerer or you really don't understand them. I keep hearing Trumpians scream "look at what's happening in Europe!" whenever someone mentions allowing refugees to enter the United States but what's left out is the difference in geography, the number of refugees entering the country, and the lack of screening for any of them. Anyone who believes that the left wants to openly allow anyone to freely enter the US without proper screening is either ignorant or just a hopeless asinine Trumpian. The same kind of imbeciles who kept promoting the redneck apocalypse scenario where the government "wants to take away guns" from Americans instead of sitting down and talking about sensible gun control.


http://www.infowars.com/report-muslim-migrants-raping-women-children-at-german-refugee-camp/
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/01/07/muslim-male-refugees-are-raping-women-in-europe-n2100918
http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/muslim-refugees-are-committing-this-sick-crime-and-getting-away-with-it
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/muslim-raping-of-women-epidemic-in-refugee-camps/
http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/document-muslim-migrants-raping-women-and-children-in-camp-in-germany.html/
http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/cologne-is-every-day-europes-rape-epidemic/news-story/e2e618e17ad4400b5ed65045e65e141d


List goes on It a mile long.


Your sources are really shitty.


At what point can we vet any harder, or do extreme vetting? The paperwork for refugees in nations like Syria literally do not exist anymore. Most of it is what we have now or a complete ban, nor does it appear that the refugee process is an easy check in and go in sort of thing.
7158 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / New York
Offline
Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17
Okay. How about this? I'd like proponents of this so-called "Muslim ban" to read up on the process of refugee vetting under the Obama administration and about the lives of those who are affected by it. I'm not trying to make an emotional appeal but rather helping you broaden your view on this issue.

Process:
http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refugees-screening-process/
Personal Stories:
http://www.businessinsider.com/syrian-refugee-stories-told-by-humans-of-new-york-2015-12/#istanbul-turkey-1

After reading, I'd like you to tell me if you've learned anything new and if your view on this matter remains the same or somewhat shaken. Would you grant these people (in the 2nd link) access to the United States? If not, I'd like to hear your reason.
2418 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / F / The margins
Offline
Posted 2/11/17

octorockandroll wrote:


auroraloose wrote:
People on the internet are people in real life, too - and the arguments here are just as real as they are through other forms of communication. You shouldn't use them for your own personal ends.


The only "personal end" of mine being fulfilled here is me having my say. If you do not like that you're probably in the wrong place.


You're free to have your say. But what you say doesn't occur in a vacuum, and we humans aren't necessarily the best at understanding our own motives.
2418 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / F / The margins
Offline
Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17

iriomote wrote:


auroraloose wrote:

Psh - you think the sun is real?

We're all entitled to our childish fantasies. For some it's the Easter Bunny, for myself it's a giant ball of plasma sustaining all life from millions of miles away.


And here I was thinking that the sun was only plasma in the core... silly me. (What I was thinking was that the core is where you can treat the electrons and protons as an ideal gas. Further out things get cooler, and the interactions between protons and electrons become important. But they're still a plasma and not hydrogen gas.)
22041 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
53 / M / In
Offline
Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17
Steps on how to make America safer

Step one Take away Trumps twitter account This will stop him from looking so damn stupid in the eyes of other World leaders

Step two Force Trump to attend and pay attention to NSC briefings I know worrying about his brats clothing line is of the up most impotence but hey So National Security

Kick Steve Bannon off the NSC and put the Chairman of the joint chief of staff and head of the intelligence community back on it. Wonder why your Yemen raid failed there you go

Stop making up fake massacres there is enough real ones to worry about
15236 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25 / M
Offline
Posted 2/11/17

MysteryMiss wrote:

Wow that escalated quick ! and Deadly Oats i like some of your threads again some of them
are interesting this one i happen to agree on we are not safe. The thing is I see this occurring at a fast rate

where the left if they do not get their way cry or complain then get judges etc.. look how they held back
Trumps new incoming in congress we see nothing new here!
And I do agree the ban should stay in tact

as for now it's another waiting game i think the last i read its going to supreme court I am not one who is going panic nah!

Am I angry, sure cause this is nothing new from the left group i could sit here for hours i got more
important things going on today!

> I am missing my friend Xan today somehow he would have had me laughing about it.


When you start the thread at 11, things tend to get out of hand pretty quickly.

That said, I keep seeing people saying things like the bold and I have to wonder, were you around for Obama's presidency? This is not a phenomena exclusive to the left. The right has been extremely obstructionist going to the point of straight up blocking Obama from even putting his nomination for Supreme Court forward and shutting down the government (remember that?). Now the left are trying to do anything to draw attention to the lunacy that Trump is bringing in across the board and people are like "these fuckers are just being obstructionists for obstruction's sake".

Youre right though. This is nothing new. The massive flaws in our hyper-partisan political system have been apparent for a long time now, but now that the shoe is on the other foot it seems the republicans forgot what happened just a few short months ago.
7158 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M / New York
Offline
Posted 2/11/17

sundin13 wrote:


MysteryMiss wrote:

Wow that escalated quick ! and Deadly Oats i like some of your threads again some of them
are interesting this one i happen to agree on we are not safe. The thing is I see this occurring at a fast rate

where the left if they do not get their way cry or complain then get judges etc.. look how they held back
Trumps new incoming in congress we see nothing new here!
And I do agree the ban should stay in tact

as for now it's another waiting game i think the last i read its going to supreme court I am not one who is going panic nah!

Am I angry, sure cause this is nothing new from the left group i could sit here for hours i got more
important things going on today!

> I am missing my friend Xan today somehow he would have had me laughing about it.


When you start the thread at 11, things tend to get out of hand pretty quickly.

That said, I keep seeing people saying things like the bold and I have to wonder, were you around for Obama's presidency? This is not a phenomena exclusive to the left. The right has been extremely obstructionist going to the point of straight up blocking Obama from even putting his nomination for Supreme Court forward and shutting down the government (remember that?). Now the left are trying to do anything to draw attention to the lunacy that Trump is bringing in across the board and people are like "these fuckers are just being obstructionists for obstruction's sake".

Youre right though. This is nothing new. The massive flaws in our hyper-partisan political system have been apparent for a long time now, but now that the shoe is on the other foot it seems the republicans forgot what happened just a few short months ago.


Sometimes I'm not sure if they really developed amnesia, mouthing off from ignorance, or just venting off for not getting everything they want. By "things they want" I mean shit they don't really want but are too stupid to understand the reprecussions of Trump's signed tweets (AKA Executive Orders).
Posted 2/11/17

sundin13 wrote:


MysteryMiss wrote:

Wow that escalated quick ! and Deadly Oats i like some of your threads again some of them
are interesting this one i happen to agree on we are not safe. The thing is I see this occurring at a fast rate

where the left if they do not get their way cry or complain then get judges etc.. look how they held back
Trumps new incoming in congress we see nothing new here!
And I do agree the ban should stay in tact

as for now it's another waiting game i think the last i read its going to supreme court I am not one who is going panic nah!

Am I angry, sure cause this is nothing new from the left group i could sit here for hours i got more
important things going on today!

> I am missing my friend Xan today somehow he would have had me laughing about it.


When you start the thread at 11, things tend to get out of hand pretty quickly.

That said, I keep seeing people saying things like the bold and I have to wonder, were you around for Obama's presidency? This is not a phenomena exclusive to the left. The right has been extremely obstructionist going to the point of straight up blocking Obama from even putting his nomination for Supreme Court forward and shutting down the government (remember that?). Now the left are trying to do anything to draw attention to the lunacy that Trump is bringing in across the board and people are like "these fuckers are just being obstructionists for obstruction's sake".

Youre right though. This is nothing new. The massive flaws in our hyper-partisan political system have been apparent for a long time now, but now that the shoe is on the other foot it seems the republicans forgot what happened just a few short months ago.


>> I have been around perhaps longer than some in here I did not always vote conservative nor did i always vote Dem
I simple based it on who presented the best run and what concerned me at present. Does anyone here remember Gore
that's right i voted for him back then! what did happen lol--hanging chads? Here is my point > I do not agree with everything a pres. does
not going happen but, when i take a hard look and see what is going on in my city which yes does affect me if i see things not going well
i exercise my right to vote. The state where i happen to reside has crooked people in office (hell our police chief is under investigation for corruption have not heard back on that yet.. Gee my typing getting long. I just feel there is always so much to hear
also much change needs to be made cause as far as i can tell things not looking so good. ahh. time for me to go eat
runec 
36303 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17

DeadlyOats wrote:
I can understand if you want to disagree with me. But all of the personal attacks against me? I never make personal attacks on any of YOU. I NEVER denigrate or belittle ANY OF YOU. I'll disagree vehemently with your views. I'll post news articles, or other sources to back up my views, but NEVER belittle any of you.

All of your arguments against me have been nothing but personal attacks, or if you did make an argument, laced those arguments with personal attacks.

This is why I can't take any of you serious, when you say you believe in individual freedoms and in an individual to have their right to disagree with you.

I WILL say you are wrong, and I WILL say why I think you are wrong. I expect that YOU WILL disagree with me, and tell me that I am wrong, but in saying you are wrong, I'm not insulting you, I am arguing a point with you. Why can't you argue a point without denigration?

I think it is because you are trying to ostracize me. You are trying to make me the bad guy. You are trying to bully me and demoralize me, in hopes I will stop posting my opinions and ideals. That kind of behavior IS un-American.


You started this thread with a volatile statement equating disagreeing with Trump with being un-American and "leftist". There's no way you didn't know how that would play out. If you start a thread with a combative tone like that it will be combative. You also routinely post things that are, to be put it politely, not operating in the realm of reason. Which of course is going to make for contentious threads.

Furthermore, one more time now: Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. If you are going to put your opinions out in a public forum you are going to have to deal with the response. You are not being oppressed because people disagree with you and are getting snippy with your ongoing shenanigans.

You are neither a martyr nor a victim and its questionable of you to try and hide behind "well I don't personally attack any of you over disagreements" when you just essentially attacked everyone of a particular political leaning over a disagreement with the president.





13208 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
☆Land of sweets☆
Offline
Posted 2/11/17
wait. we're not safe because a court had the common sense to strike down an immigration ban that goes against the very core of American values..? are we not safe because the democratic process is actually working and proving that not even the President is above the Law?
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  12  13  14  15  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.